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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer? GG or VDGG?
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    Posted: April 28 2018 at 15:49
Gentle Giant. So great master pieces. I dont go for VdGG
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Larkstongue41 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2018 at 08:09
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

And here again a false comparison is  being made....GG has 6  albums over 4 stars in their catalog while VDGG only has 5. It is incorrect to only look at albums in a specific order in any bands catalog and once again is cherry picking to make the other band look better. One needs to consider all  albums in a bands catalog and not only ones in order from a certain period.
Hey go ahead and try to make a scientifically reliable comparison if you want; I just wanted to make my answer more interesting than the typical 'insert name of band or album here' answer to PA polls.


Edited by Larkstongue41 - April 27 2018 at 08:13
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2018 at 02:16
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

And here again a false comparison is  being made....GG has 6  albums over 4 stars in their catalog while VDGG only has 5. It is incorrect to only look at albums in a specific order in any bands catalog and once again is cherry picking to make the other band look better. One needs to consider all  albums in a bands catalog and not only ones in order from a certain period.
Who really cares?

No one , so lets stop having these silly polls then......Ok?
To me it´s different thing to participate silly polls and believe as a fact what is said in PA (In Finnish PA means flat broke).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2018 at 09:22
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

And here again a false comparison is  being made....GG has 6  albums over 4 stars in their catalog while VDGG only has 5. It is incorrect to only look at albums in a specific order in any bands catalog and once again is cherry picking to make the other band look better. One needs to consider all  albums in a bands catalog and not only ones in order from a certain period.
Who really cares?

No one , so lets stop having these silly polls then......Ok?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2018 at 09:10
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I can’t stand GG’s vocals, their skimpy song length, the pace of notes and lack of sustain on notes and so on.
 
Many people say that Gentle Giant music is complex. But in spite of the intricacy in their music, I think their music sounds rather small.
 
By contrast, even when a Van der Graaf Generator soundscape is sparse, it is quite portentous. And then there are the passages where the music spins out of control and they cram a huge number of notes in a short amount of time.
 
 
 

Well, complex music doesn't 'sound' anything in particular.  Music gets described as complex because of the presence of unusual or difficult harmonic/melodic/rhythmic elements.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2018 at 03:16
I enjoy both, so I chose the third option. It's an easy poll when there's a "both" option. Without it, I wouldn't be able to pick. (LOL)
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Both equally. The two are my favorite bands from classic prog.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

And here again a false comparison is  being made....GG has 6  albums over 4 stars in their catalog while VDGG only has 5. It is incorrect to only look at albums in a specific order in any bands catalog and once again is cherry picking to make the other band look better. One needs to consider all  albums in a bands catalog and not only ones in order from a certain period.
Who really cares?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2018 at 02:17
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Poor VDGG just can't win one of these!!!

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^ LOL........they are indeed having a bad week.

VDGG have been surviving one hell of a week on the PA polls LOL.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2018 at 20:28
And here again a false comparison is  being made....GG has 6  albums over 4 stars in their catalog while VDGG only has 5. It is incorrect to only look at albums in a specific order in any bands catalog and once again is cherry picking to make the other band look better. One needs to consider all  albums in a bands catalog and not only ones in order from a certain period.

Edited by dr wu23 - April 23 2018 at 20:29
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Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Gentle Giant > Aerosol Grey Machine
Acquiring the Taste < The Least We Can Do...
Three Friends < H to He...
Octopus < Pawn Hearts
In a Glass House < Godbluff
The Power and the Glory < Still Life
Free Hand > World Record

o.k, let's do this:

Gentle Giant > Aerosol Grey Machine
Acquiring the Taste > The Least We Can Do... ("Acquiring..." is my 2nd favorite GG album)
Three Friends < H to He...
Octopus < Pawn Hearts ("Octopus" is my favorite GG album, but "Pawn Hearts" is unbeatable)
In a Glass House < Godbluff
The Power and the Glory < Still Life
Free Hand < World Record ("World Record" is in my opinion much underrated; it is on par with "Godbluff" and "Still Life")

so it is 5-2 for VdGG


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^^^ What's funny though?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2018 at 15:04
^ LOL........they are indeed having a bad week.

 To be honest both bands are an 'acquired taste'. I like the longer atmospheric instrumental work by VDGG but I have never cared for Hammill's overly dramatic and exaggerated  vocals. So it ends up being GG in that if I had to listen for any length of time I might be less likely to have a  nervous breakdown with GG.

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Poor VDGG just can't win one of these!!!

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Hi,

I'm abstaining rather than incriminating myself as a neo-progressive listener ... that is ... one who says he/she likes "progressive" then says one band is less than the other, or not as good!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2018 at 02:24
Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Gentle Giant > Aerosol Grey Machine
Acquiring the Taste < The Least We Can Do...
Three Friends < H to He...
Octopus < Pawn Hearts
In a Glass House < Godbluff
The Power and the Glory < Still Life
Free Hand > World Record

I dig this too, and never thought about doing my own until now!

Gentle Giant > Aerosol Grey Machine
Acquiring the Taste < The Least We Can Do...
Three Friends < H to He...
Octopus < Pawn Hearts
In a Glass House > Godbluff
The Power and the Glory > Still Life
Free Hand > World Record


Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - April 22 2018 at 02:25

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote questionsneverknown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2018 at 17:18
Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

Gentle Giant > Aerosol Grey Machine
Acquiring the Taste < The Least We Can Do...
Three Friends < H to He...
Octopus < Pawn Hearts
In a Glass House < Godbluff
The Power and the Glory < Still Life
Free Hand > World Record

Ooh, I really like this--compare them album-by-album chronologically. It definitely makes the comparisons more challenging, especially once you enter that block in the middle--Octopus/Pawn Hearts; Glass House/Godbluff; Power & Glory/Still Life. 

In a Glass House and The Power and the Glory are, to my ears, GG's best albums, and Godbluff and Still Life are probably my fave of VdGG's. That's tough! Would depend on the day--or even the hour--you ask me.

(H to He would win over Three Friends every time, though!)
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Gentle Giant, by a small margin, but without a doubt.
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Love both but the fact that Gary Green is in Giant swings my vote to Giant. Hey, I love the guitar
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