Black Sabbath, the unsung prog trailblazers

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 Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Sabbath has some proggy songs but overall isn't enough to be considered proto prog, because if they are, then that introduces pretty much any and all rock band before them as well.
Where is the line and why do we keep moving it? 

Is this site realizing there are fewer bands to discuss, so eventually Wu-Tang Clan's 1993 debut will be considered proto-rap-prog because of odd meter rhymed verses?

This site has an amazing bandwagon effect of people rationalizing aspects of sounds they'd denounce in another thread lol.

Once upon a time, Kate Bush used to be Prog Related on PA while Tori Amos was on Crossover Prog.  My objections, among those of others, to that were overruled with the usual set of PA reasons that bring to mind a Renaissance track about things you don't understand. But eventually, the anomaly was corrected at least to elevate Bush to Crossover Prog.  Though I still don't see what Tori's doing on here. It's nice and all, I like the first couple of albums, I liked them before Tori was added on PA.  But I don't hear the prog?

Likewise, I am a huge Black Sabbath fan and echo most of what you said.  It's a wonderful band but Iommi plays the same riffs and the same guitar solo on almost every track. Then again, this is a website that thinks Metallica is prog related but not Megadeth so clearly not much importance to riffs and variety thereof on here.  On that note, Sabbath being on here is par for the course when Iron Maiden gets there too courtesy Steve Harris playing the same bassline for the last forty years pretty much. 

In a nutshell, I don't give two f**ks anymore.  When I briefly took on the role of a collaborator (which I had to relinquish as work left me with little time to attend to vetting bands), I found most of the suggestions were of undeniably prog rock bands anyway.  So the crying need for the website is still to add those bands in time.  The contentious additions of famous bands that have little to do with prog happen once in a long while.  And haven't in a long time.  I think we have run the course. All these additions like Sabbath or Tallica were made long ago. 

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