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    Posted: December 16 2024 at 01:39
Top 10 update with Mingos' votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (406 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (129 points)
06. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (116 points)
07. Camel - Mirage (109 points)
08. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
09. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
09. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)

11. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (87 points)
12. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)
13. Camel - The Snow Goose (85 points)
14. Yes - The Yes Album (82 points)
14. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (82 points)
16. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
17. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (73 points)
18. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (72 points)
19. Genesis - Trespass (70 points)
19. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (70 points) 
19. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (70 points)

22. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (64 points)
23. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
24. Yes - Fragile (55 points)
25. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
26. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
27. Transatlantic - The Whirlwind (51 points)
28. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
29. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
30: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)

31. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
32. Refugee - Refugee (41 points)
33. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
33. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)
33. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord (40 points)
33. Spock's Beard - Snow (40 points)
37. Cressida - Cressida (39 points)
38. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
38. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (34 points)
40. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)

41. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
41. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
41. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
41. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
41. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
46. Focus - Moving Waves (29 points)


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Top 10 update with Floydoid's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (406 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (129 points)
06. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (116 points)
07. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Camel - Mirage (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)

11. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)
12. Camel - The Snow Goose (85 points)
13. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
14. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (73 points)
15. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
15. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (72 points)
17. Genesis - Trespass (70 points)
18. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (65 points)
19. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
20. Yes - The Yes Album (62 points)

21. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (60 points)
22. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
23. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (57 points)
24. Yes - Fragile (55 points)
25. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
26. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
27. Transatlantic - The Whirlwind (51 points)
28. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
29. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
30: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)

31. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
32. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
32. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)
32. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord (40 points)
32. Spock's Beard - Snow (40 points)
36. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
37. Cressida - Cressida (37 points)
38. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
38. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (34 points)
40. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)

41. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
41. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
41. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
41. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
41. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
46. Focus - Moving Waves (29 points)
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Originally posted by ObeisantBread84 ObeisantBread84 wrote:

Hey I'm sorry, is it too late to change my list? I realized Fragile counts as a symphonic Prog album so I would like to replace my CTTE vote with that and move fragile up to second place between DOFP and Selling England by the Pound, sorry if this is a problem.

No problem. I've now deducted 15 points from Close to the Edge (which is so far ahead now that it's not even close) and added 15 points on to Fragile, which now has a total of 55 points. Thumbs Up
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Hey I'm sorry, is it too late to change my list? I realized Fragile counts as a symphonic Prog album so I would like to replace my CTTE vote with that and move fragile up to second place between DOFP and Selling England by the Pound, sorry if this is a problem.
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Top 10 update with AlanB's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (376 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (116 points)
06. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (109 points)
07. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Camel - Mirage (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)

11. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)
12. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
13. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (73 points)
14. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
15. Camel - The Snow Goose (70 points)
15. Genesis - Trespass (70 points)
17. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (66 points)
18. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (65 points)
19. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
20. Yes - The Yes Album (62 points)

21. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (60 points)
22. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
23. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (57 points)
24. Yes - Fragile (55 points)
25. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
26. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
27. Transatlantic - The Whirlwind (51 points)
28. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
29. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
30: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)

31. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
32. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
32. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)
32. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord (40 points)
32. Spock's Beard - Snow (40 points)
36. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
37. Cressida - Cressida (37 points)
38. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
39. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
40. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)

41. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
41. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
41. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
41. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
41. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)


A Whirlwind new entry for Transatlantic with 51 points!


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1 Genesis - Nursery Cryme
2 Yes - The Yes Album
3 Camel - Mirage
4 Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak
5 Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison
6 Focus - Hamburger Concerto
7 Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
8 Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
9 Refugee - Refugee
10 Cressida - Cressida
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Top 10 update with Iantumaros' votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (391 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (110 points)
06. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (109 points)
07. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)
10. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)

11. Camel - Mirage (82 points)
12. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
13. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
14. Camel - The Snow Goose (70 points)
14. Genesis - Trespass (70 points)
16. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
17. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (62 points)
18. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (60 points)
18. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (60 points)
20. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)

21. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (57 points)
22. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
23. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
24. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
25. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
25. Yes - The Yes Album (47 points)
27: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)
28. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (43 points)
29. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
30. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
30. Yes - Fragile (40 points)
30. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)
30. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord (40 points)

34. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
37. Cressida - Cressida (37 points)
35. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
36. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
38. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)
39. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
39. Spock's Beard - Snow (30 points)
39. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
39. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
39. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
39. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Days of Future Passed was arguably the first bona fide Symphonic Prog album, so I'm happy to bend the "rules" slightly to include it in the Top 40 listings, along with In Search of the Lost Chord.
To me that didn't fully happen until In the Court of the Crimson King. Even sillier to exclude that defining album. Days of Future Passed mostly got (corny) orchestral "light music" interludes in between some undeniably beautiful "baroque pop" songs. In my opinion you should either follow your own rules or drop them.

Edt: But then again, I don't know why I should care so much. Maybe because I had to remove Ommadawn and In the Court... because of that rule of yours:)

Edited by Saperlipopette! - December 15 2024 at 09:52
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 Days of Future Passed was arguably the first bona fide Symphonic Prog album, so I'm happy to bend the "rules" slightly to include it in the Top 40 listings, along with In Search of the Lost Chord. Smile


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

“Symphonic” according to PA’s categorization? Doesn’t that eliminate all RPI bands?

Yes, I meant Symphonic Prog as categorized by ProgArchives.
According to your own set of rules, you should remove both of these from the list:

12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison
38. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
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Top 10 update with Easy Money's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (391 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (110 points)
06. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
07. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (103 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)
10. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)

11. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
13. Camel - Mirage (70 points)
13. Camel - The Snow Goose (70 points)
15. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
16. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (62 points)
17. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (60 points)
17. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (60 points)
19. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
20. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (57 points)

21. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
22. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
23. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
24. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
24. Yes - The Yes Album (47 points)
26: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)
27. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (43 points)
28. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
29. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
29. Yes - Fragile (40 points)
29. Genesis - Trespass (40 points)
29. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)
29. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord (40 points)

34. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
35. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
36. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
37. Cressida - Cressida (32 points)
38. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)
39. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
39. Spock's Beard - Snow (30 points)
39. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
39. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
39. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
39. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
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1) Yes - CTTE
2) ELP - s/t
3) Camel - The Snowgoose
4) Focus - Moving Waves
5) Moody Blues - Seventh Sojourn (listed here as Crossover but Symphonic IMO)
6) Rick Wakeman - 6 Wives
7) The Nice - Five Bridges
8) Sky - Sky 2 (listed here as Eclectic but Symphonic IMO)
9) Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories
10) Aphrodite's Child - 666
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^I'm happy to have helped lifting Mirage and Nursey Cryme up closer to where they belong.

Yes, I got around to adding your points on eventually, and the Top 40 now looks all the better for it too. Thumbs Up
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^I'm happy to have helped lifting Mirage and Nursey Cryme up closer to where they belong.
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Top 10 update with Saperlipopettel's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (391 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (110 points)
06. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
07. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (103 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)
10. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)

11. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
13. Camel - Mirage (70 points)
14. Camel - The Snow Goose (65 points)
15. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
16. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (62 points)
17. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (60 points)
17. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (60 points)
19. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
20. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (57 points)

21. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
22. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
23. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
24. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
25: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)
26. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (43 points)
27. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
28. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
28. Yes - Fragile (40 points)
28. Genesis - Trespass (40 points)
28. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)

32. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
33. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
34. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
35. Cressida - Cressida (32 points)
35. Yes - The Yes Album (32 points)
37. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)
38. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
38. Spock's Beard - Snow (30 points)
38. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
38. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
38. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
38. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
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Top 10 update with ObeisantBread84's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (391 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (110 points)
06. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
07. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (103 points)
08. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (94 points)
10. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)

11. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
13. Camel - The Snow Goose (65 points)
14. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
15. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (62 points)
16. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (60 points)
17. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
18. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
19. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
20. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (50 points)

21. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)
22. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
23: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)
24. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (43 points)
25. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
26. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
26. Yes - Fragile (40 points)
26. Genesis - Trespass (40 points)
26. Camel - Mirage (40 points)
26. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)

31. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
32. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (37 points)
33. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
34. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
35. Cressida - Cressida (32 points)
35. Yes - The Yes Album (32 points)
37. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)
38. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
38. Spock's Beard - Snow (30 points)
38. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
38. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
38. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 
38. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (30 points)
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Top 10 update with Hector Enrique's votes added:-

01. Yes - Close to the Edge (376 points)
02. Genesis - Foxtrot (180 points)
03. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans (142 points)
04. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (130 points)
05. Anglagard - Hybris (104 points)
06. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (103 points)
07. Camel - Moonmadness (94 points)
08. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (90 points)
09. Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere (88 points)
10. Kansas - Leftoverture (86 points)

11. Yes - Relayer (79 points)
12. Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquieme saison (72 points)
13. Focus - Hamburger Concerto (64 points) 
14. Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII (62 points)
15. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (60 points)
16. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (58 points)
17. Camel - The Snow Goose (55 points)
18. Discipline - Unfolded Like Staircase (53 points)
19. Spock's Beard - V (52 points)
20. Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water (49 points)

21. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (47 points)
22. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning (46 points)
23: All Traps on Earth - A Drop of Light (44 points)
24. Neal Morse - Sola Scripture (43 points)
25. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (42 points)
26. Anyone's Daughter - Adonis (40 points)
26. Yes - Fragile (40 points)
26. Genesis - Trespass (40 points)
26. Camel - Mirage (40 points)
26. Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak (40 points)

31. Refugee - Refugee (38 points)
32. Genesis - Nursery Cryme (37 points)
33. Fantasy - Paint a Picture (34 points)
34. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever (33 points)
35. Cressida - Cressida (32 points)
35. Yes - The Yes Album (32 points)
37. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories (31 points)
38. Genesis - Duke (30 points)
38. Spock's Beard - Snow (30 points)
38. Echolyn - The End is Beautiful (30 points)
38. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering (30 points)
38. Neal Morse - Similitude of a Dream (30 points) 


A new entry for Renaissance' Scheherazade on 31 points!


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - December 14 2024 at 09:35
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Top 10 update with Dapper Blueberries' votes added:-
but why not my top ten?

Edit: Forget it. I noticed you're still on page seven:)

No worries. I'm still adding the backlog of voting from this time last year, but I guarantee I'll get around to adding your points on eventually. Thumbs Up
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1. Sola Scriptura - Neal Morse
2. The Whirlwind - Transatlantic
3. The Yes Album
4. Mirage - Camel
5. Snow - Spock's Beard
6. Selling England By The Pound - Genesis
7. Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
8. Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman
9. Banks of Eden - Flower Kings
10. Song of Seven - Jon Anderson

(I couldn't believe I hadn't voted in this thread yet, but when I compiled my list I found that the "one album per artist" rule restricted me more than I thought it would. Also it's a shame Pink Floyd aren't counted as Symphonic otherwise Wish You Were Here would have been high up on my list).
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Top 10 update with Dapper Blueberries' votes added:-
but why not my top ten?

Edit: Forget it. I noticed you're still on page seven:)

Edited by Saperlipopette! - December 14 2024 at 07:06
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