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    Posted: May 25 2014 at 23:10
Hey, that guy nailed it!!  
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Back in 1977 Kunio Suma was arguably playing it as good as Fripp...But the band he played in did imitate preexisting styles from earlier Crimson rather than invent its own, so he wouldn't get nearly as well known as the original composer...

Jazz virtuosos are all likely to play it as neatly as RF but once assured of their abilities, they'd hardly get fascinated by Fripp's solo and persona the same way as if they'd discovered Fracture before they learnt advanced guitar playing.
They'd rather go like "Uh-oh a plectrum master that went out of tradition to play in an unusual context". They might dismiss Fripp's solos as being part of too unbalanced, ill-driven or raw music for them.

Renderings of Fracture's moto perpetuo appear and disappear on the net here and then. How 'bout that one:


And Lark's Tongues...


Are they willing to discover yet unheard magnetically contrasting mixes of musical ingredients as well ?...
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Points: 7551 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2014 at 12:04
Part of the problem is that there is only one Robert Fripp.  I really have never known another guitar player like him, he's in a class of his own.  

I've known players who could play complex Yes music note-for-note, but no guitarist I've met has been able to play Fripp's break in "Fracture"!   I bet a few could, perhaps Goods or Fareed Haque.  

My bud John Goodsall did this very nice cover of "Red"!   Check him out!  
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Points: 2619 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2014 at 04:06
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Because similar can be good too!! 

Well, I don't want similar, I want to hear a band that is pushing the envelope and doing their own thing. Of course, the great prog bands influenced so many others, but it takes some time for a band to shake off their influences and some, unfortunately, never do. As to whether I like this or that band is, of course, subjective from one listener to the next.

100% agree. This is a right point IMO. Many bands go over "Similar" and make "COPY"!! and many of these Copies may be good but I don't like Copies and I think they are unvaluable. 
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Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Because similar can be good too!! 

Well, I don't want similar, I want to hear a band that is pushing the envelope and doing their own thing. Of course, the great prog bands influenced so many others, but it takes some time for a band to shake off their influences and some, unfortunately, never do. As to whether I like this or that band is, of course, subjective from one listener to the next.

Let's support this request for "similar" if one considers Crimson has only discovered a part of its own planet and we want to see the rest of the place.


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The French band NeBeLNeST channeled King Crimson a bit, I don't know what ever happened to them.  This is a nice tune!  


I like it all the more because my cat was named "Redrum" (from the movie "The Shining" by Kubrick!)
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Because similar can be good too!! 

Well, I don't want similar, I want to hear a band that is pushing the envelope and doing their own thing. Of course, the great prog bands influenced so many others, but it takes some time for a band to shake off their influences and some, unfortunately, never do. As to whether I like this or that band is, of course, subjective from one listener to the next.
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Because similar can be good too!! 
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Why listen to a band that's 'similar' to King Crimson when you can just listen to King Crimson? I never understood the need for people to seek music out that sounds like someone else when you can listen to the real thing any time you want. My suggestion listen to King Crimson!!! There, problem solved!

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Originally posted by historian9 historian9 wrote:

I know of a few obscure ones who are quite obvious in being influenced by KC of the 80's for example.

Mr. Euphoria



Ixt Adux



Newcross



Thanks for Mr Euphoria ! They deserve more than a mere listen ! Ixt Adux as well, although they're more zeuhl-eared than me.
Newcross reminds me of Yes's 90125 (no slur intended! I'm guts-tied to 90125) more than of Crimson.

Great discoveries...Thank you!!

EDIT: other great bands in this thread, but I rushed on the vids, because it was too easy for a weak-willed me. 


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Originally posted by daslaf daslaf wrote:

Barbaro, they're from Hungary I think... it's kindda fusion between 80's Crimson and Muse




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Points: 2466 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2014 at 14:18
Originally posted by rpe9p rpe9p wrote:

Every prog band =)


that's a little bit harsh don't you think
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:58
I know of a few obscure ones who are quite obvious in being influenced by KC of the 80's for example.

Mr. Euphoria



Ixt Adux



Newcross




Edited by historian9 - May 22 2014 at 13:03
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Anekdoten is very Crimson-esque. They sound like Wetton-era KC. Tool is a bit similar to Crimso's latter albums, but not so close though.
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Points: 2619 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2014 at 11:21
Originally posted by freudiana freudiana wrote:

Can someone name some bands similar to King Crimson?

I know a few:

Anglagard
Anekdoten
Ange
Atoll
Wobbler
Tool
The Flower Kings
Pentacle


Anglagard ?! Anekdoten?!! Wobbler ?!!! The Flower Kings?!!!!   "Tool"? LOLLOL Are you ever listened KC? some of Syphonic Prog Icons are in your.
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I listened to Ethos-Ardour, an American band from the late 70's or early 80's I think, they have some distinct similarities to KC as well as Cathedral- Stained Glass Stories.
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2014 at 03:42
Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:


Originally posted by freudiana freudiana wrote:

Can someone name some bands similar to King Crimson?
Depends on what era of King Crimson you want something like... unless, of course, you mean it in the sense of changing style and line-up as often as KC.


That's what I was thinking.

KC was about the approach to making music in equal measure to the actual songwriting itself.
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There is also the Rio/Avant bands Zaar/Sotos and Guapo. Would they count? Oh...and as for The Flower Kings having a Crimson like sound. I would think the live version of Circus Brimstone from Meet The Flower Kings and the majority of Unfold The Future falls into that category right?

Edited by freudiana - May 21 2014 at 03:03
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Tony Levin's current band Stick Men is quite KC-ish. It helps that he has Pat Mastelotto on board.
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How about Gösta Berlings Saga?
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