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Marsaphire 
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 04:32 |
This may have been done before, and if so, kill this thread - and refer this newbie to the old one(s). However, If this is something worth talking about, please do. I'm aware of bands like Et Cetera (from Canada), Echolyn, Happy the Man...But there must be other, obviously GG-inspired bands out there. If you know of any, please let me know. I'm fairly new to prog - as well as this forum - and have developed quite a crush on GG  Looking for new, related stuff to get into. My background is definitely heavier, darker music, but GG, while "happy sounding" in comparison to most of the metallic stuff I've listened to over the years, is just undeniably great. Okay, enough gushing  Cheers!
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R o V e R
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 05:05 |
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van der graff generator
is the answer
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eloii
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 05:35 |
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Yezda Urfa
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 05:47 |
There have been similar discussions, but not for a while.
My personal view is that history has been kind to GG in terms of their perceived influence. They were not one of the major bands during the time of their existence, indeed I suspect many of the bands deemed to have been influenced by them had in reality heard little by them.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 06:42 |
 R o V e R wrote:
van der graff generator
is the answer |
To what question however
VdGG predates GG.
Try Advent
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 07:05 |
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Echolyn, Spock's Beard, Yezda Urfa, Nathan Mahl, Pent**ter..
Edited by erik neuteboom - October 07 2006 at 07:07
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Marsaphire
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 07:57 |
Once again, thanks people. VDGG seems to be coming up a lot. As I've said in previous threads, I've heard them, but not properly listened to them. Sounds like it's high time I should. Most of the others bands mentioned I've at least heard of, and in several cases, actually have music by therm. But again, I'm quite new to the world of prog, and rather awestruck by the incredible amount of music available to listen to. Thanks primarily to this site, navagating through it all has thus far been very interesting and enjoyable. However, with a job and family, I, regetably, cannot spend as much as I'd like zoning out with a pair of headphones on. Three bands are entirely new to me: Advent, Nathan Mahl and Pent**ter (what an odd name for a band... ). Thanks for the homework assignment. Cheers
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Marsaphire
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 11:14 |
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Interesting post, Easy Living.
Personally, I think it might just be that GG are so good, so different (or so far ahead of their time) that, in the same way that van Gogh was penniless during his own lifetime, but would have been incredibly wealthy if he'd only lived long enough to see his work appreciated, we've simply had to wait until recent years for people to "get" Gentle Giant's music.
Another example would be Lovecraft, or Philip K. Dick. Both writers were almost totally ignored in their day and written off as hacks and headcases. Now the influence of both writers is tremendous.
It seems that the most "progressive" artists are often ignored initially - only to be discoverd later. I'm sure there are many prog bands which were big in the 70's which have been covered up by the sands of time because, really, they weren't all that great. On the other hand, a few bands, like GG, may not have been such a big deal back in the day, but are now.
I believe there's probably a good reason for that.
Maybe I'm just a love-struck fanboy (and that's fine), but I'd be interested to know what you make of that hypothesis.
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"Life is fleeting, man" - Slick Willie
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"Don't fear the reaper" -BOC
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JesusBetancourt
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 11:28 |
ADVENT
ADVENT
ADVENT
ADVENT
ADVENT!!!!!!!!!!GO TO THIER WEB SITE AND YOU WILL SEE: THEY ARE PERFECT CLONES
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 11:50 |
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Saga claims they are very GG influenced, but I don't hear it. Spock's Beard's acapella moments are affectionately called "Gentle Giants" amongst the band...
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 12:12 |
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There is a really cool moment in Wobbler's debut where they go into this Gentle Giant groove for a few minutes. I love it. (It is about 10 minutes into the title track from "Hinterland").
There are probably other instances of GG influence on that record, but that is the most obvious.
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 12:33 |
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Not obvious, but MIA has some Gentle Giants stuff every now and then...specially when the vocals, try the Cornostipicum album.
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Marsaphire
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 12:57 |
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I'm starting to get more and more interested in Wobbler as people bring them up again and again. Definitely high on the list. What is it about Scandinavia and great music? Something in the water, or just long winters with nothing to do?
As for Saga...Well, that was one of the bands my step-dad was into years ago, and I couldn't stand them as a teen. I may give them another try one of these days, but I'm afraid the negative associations connected to that band might ruin the experience for me.
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 13:16 |
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I think you may well have a point there Mars. There's no doubt in my mind that GG have had considerably more influence on more recent bands (The Flower Kings spring to mind too) than they did on their 1970's peers.
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 13:38 |
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Gargantua:
http://chief.oke.krakow.pl/~tylda/tylda/gargantua/en.html
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R o V e R
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 13:48 |
Dick Heath wrote:
R o V e R wrote:
van der graff generator
is the answer |
To what question however
VdGG predates GG.
Try Advent
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ya
i'll try "Advent"
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MattiR
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 14:03 |
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- Yezda Urfa
- Echolyn
- Gargantua --> excellent Polish band!!!!!!!!!!
- Epidermis --> Germany
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 14:11 |
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Geddy Lee has said that Rush was influenced by GG. Can't really hear it, however.
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 14:30 |
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[QUOTE=R o V e R]van der graff generator
is the answer[/QUOTE
???????
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Marsaphire
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 17:08 |
Visitor13 and MattiR, Thanks to you both for the Gargantua tip. I've just been to the site and listened to a few clips. Very nice - if that's the right word to use  My Polish wife (I only point out her nationality because I'm a Yank from SoCal) says she's heard of them, and that they've played at some point in the smal city where we live....Man, where the heck was I that day?? Maybe next time....
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"Life is fleeting, man" - Slick Willie
"Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die" - Another famous Willie
"Don't fear the reaper" -BOC
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