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EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) — Brain Salad Surgery
Review by Ian_Griffith (Ian)

5%20stars ‘If your looking for safe, critic-approved, politically correct pop music enlightenment’ ….f**k off. Carl Palmer could not have but it better (expect for that last bit which I put in to make it sound better).

Before this Album the only ELP song I had heard was 'I believe in Father Christmas’. I just thought they were an ordinary pop band. But boy was I wrong. I can clearly remember hearing ‘Toccata’ for the first time and it still as sounds as fresh as it did the timing hearing it as does the rest of the Album. This album still sands shivers up my spine. Not else much to say other than jaw dropping, bombastic brilliance In my opinion along with KC ‘Red’ and Yes “Close to the edge” these are the defining albums of the genre.

ELP broke every rule with this album. In the end isn’t that what Prog rock is?


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Had anything been said here? An Album that broke every rule, defining album of the genre. Everything else are personal impressions, plus an unnecessary f word.

Not a review really.

Maybe it was written by an unemployed Rolling Stone journalist ? LOLLOLLOLLOL
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Indeed, and it doesn't change my mind about not wanting to listen to the album Wink
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

This review doesn't say much:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123980


It also doesn't say anything wrong...


I know, it's just really short, barely over 50 words.  But then again, that does meet the requirement, so it could stay. 
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

This review doesn't say much:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123980


It also doesn't say anything wrong...


Okay - this review is not enlightening Ouch - but an legal opinion ...


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Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

This review doesn't say much:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123980


It also doesn't say anything wrong...
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But it's pathetic that a grown man tries to modify a chart in a Prog site where nobody ever cared for the top songs. LOL
 
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That doesn't explain the changes in the top # one album these past months. When I forst started reading this site, the top 5 seemed pretty static, now it's a 3 way toss up. I do agree with you , as to who could care that much...
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

It'll be deleted, Iván... but in July 2005, I guess there were no charts then. LOLWink
 
 
 
EDIT: Not exact, apparently  there was a chart in July 2005 Guigo, I found this post: from 2 months before:
 
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If I got it right, the technick of making this list is to time the amount of ratings in the avarage rate to get the popularity of an album. This is not a bad idea and the list is not surprising. But .........

I think you need to do another list of highly rated albums (let's say of at least 9 ratings so not any unknown with 1 or 2 ratings will skip in, but talk talk's "spirit of eden" that is the highest rated album I've seen here, will be included). In this list will be the albums accordings to their avarage rates only, which will make a whole different list and I guess - a wider range of music.

Taking talk talk as a good example I claim that most of us are familiar with the 1970 - 1977 english prog music who created the genre & dominates it (with good reasons). However there are some great music made later or elsewhere that we are less familiar with. Like I happen to know talk talk, some others know another great band and it will be easy to search for good music we do not know through such a list (cause you need only few excelent ratings to be on this list).

It will also be interesting to see what albums will be on both lists (and to see that dream theatre is much less important then it seems from the existing list).

What do you say ?

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At least in May 2005....we already had a top 100 LOL
 
Just noticed I'm stubborn LMAO.
 
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LOL, don't worry Jesús, I couldn't care less for the charts, I love Hybris more than most of the top 10 no matter in what place it is.
 
But it's pathetic that a grown man tries to modify a chart in a Prog site where nobody ever cared for the top songs. LOL
 
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Then you call Progger a paranoic, IvanTongue
 
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It'll be deleted, Iván... but in July 2005, I guess there were no charts then. LOLWink
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Yikes, a newbie Focus fanboy????
 
Focus Swedish??????????????
 
Thijs Van Leerstrom LOL
 
Jan Svensonkkerman Wink
 
I heard it all with the new album Humburger Concerto LOL
 
Seems the guy heard the Epic from the album, got emotional and didn't cared to listen the rest of the album or research a bit.
 
Delete them, clear attempt to modify the charts.
 
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EDIT: ROFTLMAO, this one is brilliant: "On the first side you'll find four nice songs with interestings riffs that you'll keep in your heart for a while" (huh????????????)
 
The most generic statement I ever read LOLLOLLOL, could fit for any album with four songs in side A.....the guy is shouting "I NEVER HEARD THE ALBUM; ONLY THE EPIC!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Should we allow comeback reviews?

ÄNGLAGÅRD — Hybris
Review by bobesh

5%20stars With respect to the previous reviewer, I must say, that this album never deserves one star. Either hated or loved, this music is something very special in early 90's and all prog history. The technical proficiency doesn't always mean a great album, but Hybris really is a masterpiece, because to this technical proficiency they added original and unusual musical ideas, and swedish spirit and that all makes it one of the greatest prog albums (imo)


 
I believe we are scratching the surface, there's soemthing called action and reaction or cause and effect, Bobesh's review is not good, but the one we should delete first is the provoking and even offensive:
 
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ÄNGLAGÅRD — Hybris

Review by psychospaces

1%20stars Oh my friends, well i dont want to shock you, but this should be the most boring music I have ever heard in my whole life in fact i am very disappointed with Hybris. All of the Anglagard prog fanatic fan boys, who come here with their unconditional love of these guys are doing everyone a disservice. All the band is great from a technical standpoint but this music is going nowhere, there is no CLIMAX , this should not be called Symphonic Prog but Symphonic Robotic Prog, these guys are like robots, mechanical riffs, a time change there, another riff here, then a pause for the flute, and another riff. The structure of the music it's meaningless, there is no substance. ah, another thing that i like to tell, the drummer Mattias Olsson, is drumming consists only of hitting at great speeds and yes this sound physically impressive but musically uninteresting, the actual rhythms he makes aren't at all complicated. There's little syncopation or other rhythmically interesting features, just very fast pedalling. Hurray! You want emotional music? Or instrumental masturbation? Common guys listen to this album again and you all gonna understand. Ultimately,with a few minor prog reviewer exceptions, it seems that Hybris is seen has a masterpiece but Hybris perfectly clear the fact that technical proficiency doesn't make good music or masterpieces.

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Calling people fanboys, making false statements (Only complex is good) and teh masturbation phrase don't help.
 
At least shoud be edited
 
Specially if we check Psycospace's history:
 

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Only the last two have a review (Maybe the foirst four have been deleted)....How can we trust a guy who gives mostly 5 amnd 1 star ratings without reviews?
 
And the Dream Theater review is crap, only talks abiut what he feels when he listens the album not a single word about structure, sound opr music.
 
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I noticed a couple of cds that had more ratings than showed on the page, can we see who the per\son who left the rating but not the review was or are they posted anonymously?  Confused
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Yea, I noticed those Anglagard reviews too, and I don't like how the second is mostly a comeback at the first.

And is psychospaces the reviewer who was giving a lot of 5 and 1 star reviews before?


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^^^  He's obviously a fan of the band and when he saw a the 1 star review he retaliated with a 5 star review. The review may be decent, but the action behind it isn't. 

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It's a passable review, since the mention to the previous review is limited to one sentence.
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Should we allow comeback reviews?

ÄNGLAGÅRD — Hybris
Review by bobesh

5%20stars With respect to the previous reviewer, I must say, that this album never deserves one star. Either hated or loved, this music is something very special in early 90's and all prog history. The technical proficiency doesn't always mean a great album, but Hybris really is a masterpiece, because to this technical proficiency they added original and unusual musical ideas, and swedish spirit and that all makes it one of the greatest prog albums (imo)



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Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

These two reviews don't say anything about the actual album, and the third doesn't say much either:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123266

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123267

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=123264



I see what you mean, but it's a vague concept to say that a review doesn't say much about an album. I've seen a few lengthy ones that didn't say much either. Mind you, we can question whether it's just an attempt to get to the 200 character minimum.
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oh, you beat me to it. This review is terrible. At least make the guy use periods, and not ellipses. I agree with progismylife, this needs to be removed
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DREAM THEATER — Systematic Chaos
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5%20stars At first I want to say that the Octavarium was the end of the first chapter of DT....you must know it if you want to listen and write the review to Systematic Chaos...Mike Portnoy said that in Score...in special documentary about DT....you must have it if you want to listen Systematic Chaos and write the review about it.....So....when I saw the tracklist of the new album....in March I think....I knew that this album will be very dark...BUT....not in music....but in lyrics...yeah...so now we have May..and new album is here..almost...regular in june...and what is the SCH like?...So let me tell you that this album is the best album...not only of DT....but in Progmetal as while....and why?OK....lets go to the deep of SCH....as I said at the begining...this album is something strange....first album of DT...or ninth?...NO first....previously 8 albums was somewhere....not there than SCH...SCH is not here...in the Earth...but somewhere in Space...in Ifinity...MP said that...is it right?SCH starts different that all their previously albums.....very quick...yees....there are not any special sounds...voices...or intros...In The Presence Of Enemies Is total different start song that The Root....or As I Am...The Glass Prison...etc...so this is the first different element...in DT chapter no.2....and the end of SCH?....again very quick....INTPoE...this song ....the best Start i can not believe....guitar...bass...and after it Jordan solo...one of the best keybord solos that I ever heard...after...guitar solo....chorus of the song...perfect...james comes to SCH very vell...his voice is excelent....and the first song end...half....Forsaken...oh this is the next element in DT chapter no.2.....hard song?melodic?....both...perfect...relax before Constant Motion and The Dark Eternal Night....yes....Metallica in CM?...and what is the problem...it is very useful combination of styles...yes ....traditional DT songs...guitar...bass....keyboards...voices...of Mike Portnoy too....very very strange song...perfect....TDEN...so...very dark song...in music and in lyrics...the heaviest song of DT I think...but perfect riffs and chorus is fantastic....Repentance...the AA saga songs...BUT...ballad....like Pink Floyd...I think better than PF...because...there are much more elements of music..than in PF..Phropets of War...I do not have a words....something Godness...people in it...I do not words...and Grand Final..The Ministry of Lost Souls and ITPoE 2...you must listen to it...I can not write about it...The BEST music I have ever heard..there is all...heavy..melody..epic..I am crying..laughing..an about it is Systematic Chaos...NOT only about music...BUT about US...our World...bad World...We are going to the end...SCH is very heavy album to our minds...to US...


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Just look at it! It's calling for deletion.
I kinda like the staccato phrasing, like seing on the inside of the dude's mind.
 
It's a difficult read, and not much of real value inside, but it's good enough for me.
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Originally posted by professormarvel professormarvel wrote:

Ive read and re-read this review

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=10564

and can't help feeling that the last paragraph is advocating bootlegging

''''If you already have it, well you know why you bought it, there is music for every taste, but if you're a fan of early Genesis, save your money and buy any decent bootleg if you have all the progressive albums.'''''

I'd be curious as to the reviewers and other members opinions



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The only "bootlegs" I know from Genesis Gabriel era concerts ARE ALL LEGAL
 
  1. TV special for the Belgium TV.

  2. TONY STRATTON SMITH PRESENTS: GENESIS IN CONCERT 1973 (VCD)  

    100% LEGAL  with release number (VCD) (RareVCD02)
  3. Genesis A Band in Concert: 100% Legal Phil Collins Genesis during the Wind & Wuthering era. Widescreen Edition (VCD) (RareVCD04 SE)
  4. Boootlegs provided in the Genesis a History video-biography LEGALLY SOLD AT ANY STORE

Bootleg doesn't mean Illegal, bootleg just means unofficia filml, taken in the concert with less than proffesional equipment.

Those items were legally for sale except the Belgium TV which you can have absolutely legally according to the Betamax Case Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984)
 
 Don't try to teach me laws, if you buy a product by Internet in a store with a release number, you have to assume it's legal, if not, it''s responsability of the store, not of the buyer with good faith.
 
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