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Roj
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 12:10 |
^ Exactly Winterlight. If you don't like a group, don't read about them, that's what I say. No vote on this poll from me.
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WinterLight
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 11:46 |
Something to consider: one need not enjoy or approve of every band featured in the Archives. In fact, you do have the option of not liking every artist sanctioned as "Prog."
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dzx
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 11:40 |
King Crimson
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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dzx
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 11:23 |
From being open minded to its definitions of 'prog' this site has become THE resource on the web for discovering good music with reviews that for the most part can be relied upon as being subjective and informative. If you dont believe me visit some of the metal sites which review as a percentage where you find idiots rating albums with every song as 100 cause they like it and others at 0 cause they dont.
Sabbath not prog? give me a break
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 11:17 |
It's quite depressing to see how many votes this poll is getting.
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 11:10 |
Some groups don't need to be here, Ill give some examples: Muse, Radiohead, Queen, Talk Talk, Iron Maiden, 10 CC, and Black Sabbath, but thats just my opinion; even David Bowie which I ove shouldnt be here, and its not because of comercial sucess, its mainly because of they're lack of (if we may call it that) progressiveness in the composition in their works;
And the whole idea of Proto-Prog and Prog-Related may be a cute idea to make people learn of some theories of pseudo-origins of other certain prog-rock groups, well if thats so, lets put proto-jazz or something, cause, it was jazz that eventually led to the birth of rock and blues.
Well, let the debate that won't get anywhere...continue.
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Happy Family One Hand Clap, Four Went On But None Came Back
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Yorkie X
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 10:29 |
retracted my comment after thinking about it ... dont read this its pointless and a waste of your time
Edited by Yorkie X - August 11 2008 at 11:48
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iguana
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 09:55 |
even the most open minded and in musical taste most versatile and best established
cannot be here without having a major question mark above band's names, be it
a commercially successful, “prog-related“ (your term, not mine), a stadium rock
or just a good rock’nroll act. which is why i would like to put in a vote for QUEEN.
this has nothing to do with their importance as a band.
and while we're at it – DOORS and SANTANA are an iffy issue for me, too. so what!
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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JayDee
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:55 |
fandango wrote:
^^quite right...I think it's about time this thread was locked, before some smart-arse decides that Pink Floyd or Genesis shoudn't be here.... |
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Jared
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:52 |
^^quite right...I think it's about time this thread was locked, before some smart-arse decides that Pink Floyd or Genesis shoudn't be here....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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GentleGiant
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:50 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
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BeGiantForADay
"This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix."
http://rateyourmusic.com/~GentleG
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proggy
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:42 |
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fusionfreak
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:34 |
Santana has been losing contact with true music for years:jazz,Coltrane,flower power and kindness have
left him.Supernatural is a very bad album,moreover this guy keeps looking for praise quoting bands such
as Tinariwen(this is a very good band by the way)but he forgets to write good stuff(where are Caravanserai and Welcome?).Commercial bands were evoked(Queen for example)but if there were more commercial
bands like Led Zeppelin I would be happy.Black Sabbath has proggy elements thanks to Bill Ward's jazzy
drumming among others and some Maiden stuff is clearly prog(To tame a land or Rime of the ancient mariner).I hope someday big music labels will be wise enough to recruit real bands and accept losing money.
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
of searchers with the help from
crimson king
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npjnpj
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:19 |
In my view all the artists on that list have some prog-oriented aspect to them somewhere that justify their presence here, even Rainbow, although they do seem to be pushing the envelope a bit.
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dzx
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:06 |
Jefferson Airplane.............However did they get on the list also, just saw them
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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dzx
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 08:05 |
cacho wrote:
Sabbath 4 votes!!?? People have you heard Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage? pff... And at least their debut and Paranoid have a lot of Prog influences, especially Heavy Prog, which Sabbath isn't considered.
Beatles? Huh? PROTO-Prog, don't you get it? How can you vote them?
Deep Purple? Book of Taliesyn, Shades, Deep Purple, Concerto, In Rock, Fireball.. |
Agree especially about Sabbath. I cant believe Supertramp ended up here either as theyve made the best album ever done. COTC. Progressive and unbelievably superb. OK their later stuff was far more commercial like Genesis, Chicago............. To vote in such an inane poll I would say The Doors as I think they are the most overrated but thats just me and me being vindictive
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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JayDee
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 07:48 |
I don't see the point of this thread, really.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 07:30 |
Sabbath 4 votes!!?? People have you heard Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage? pff...
And at least their debut and Paranoid have a lot of Prog influences, especially Heavy Prog, which Sabbath isn't considered.
Beatles? Huh? PROTO-Prog, don't you get it? How can you vote them?
Deep Purple? Book of Taliesyn, Shades, Deep Purple, Concerto, In Rock, Fireball..
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Jared
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 07:14 |
It shows just how muich the site has moved on since I joined over 3 years ago, when the 'en vogue' thing to do was to start a Styx bashing thread...and now they aren't even mentioned in your top 25...
I think excellent points have been made in the posts above this one, so I shan't be voting. All I can say is that the respective collabs of each genre put in a lot of work into this site, and discuss at great length the inclusion/ exclusion of certain bands, for the benefit of the site's integrity, so it would be churlish of me to make criticsms.
For sure, there are bands that I wouldn't have added personally if I'd been in charge (and you should all think yourself lucky that no-one's ever put me in charge of anything...  ), on the other hand, there are bands that I would most certainly add, but them not being here doesn't detract from my overall enjoyment... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Ricochet
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 06:42 |
Equalling prog-related & even crossover prog with "unwanted" gets  from me, with all due respect. Try a better approach than "commercial music" for some of the band's real reason for being here as well.
Edited by Ricochet - August 11 2008 at 06:43
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