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Vibrationbaby 
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Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
 Posted: June 10 2009 at 12:39 |
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Mani Neumeier was sort of like Keith Moon in the early Guru Guru days. He does a drum solo and the other guys play. Just watch the Electric Junk video. Total mayhem.
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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
Posted: June 10 2009 at 12:55 |
Neumeier used to play free jazz before he started Guru Guru, so that's where his drumming style comes from. |
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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: June 11 2009 at 09:12 |
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All the jazzmen freaked out when he started with Guru Guru Groove Band in `68. They couldn`t believe it was the same guy who had played with the likes of Swiss pianist Irene Schweizer. There`s a video floating around on youtube somewhere.
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18698 |
Posted: June 11 2009 at 10:07 |
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Hi,
Watch Gavin on that Porcupine Tree DVD just recently out ... it's definitly very good. And getting better ... I think his best days drumming are still ahead ...
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18698 |
Posted: June 11 2009 at 10:12 |
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Hi,
It's actually amazing when you think about it ... you can start with the first album, and then Hinten and go to Kanguru Guru and then Dance of the Flames and then Tango Fango ... and you never get the feeling that this guy is just keeping time ... the music stands out ... and that is really rare ... nothing against a Mike P, or some of these more metal inclined drummers ... but they are time keepers, not drummers!
Anytime you have to accent that snare drum that much ... just means that you can not play music without a clock ahead of you! And that usually means it's about the clock ... not the music! It makes you a good technical drummer, but not quite one that can add to the music ... and make it special! ... and free ... so it can fly through the ages and eras of time and music! Edited by moshkito - June 12 2009 at 10:30 |
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Marty McFly
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2009 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 3968 |
Posted: June 12 2009 at 03:48 |
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Heh, Mike Portnoy from the modern times and KEITH MOON from "ye olde" times. Keith is considered as one of the best drummers, am I right ? His innovative style was well known. And probably still is.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
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Marty McFly
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2009 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 3968 |
Posted: June 12 2009 at 04:15 |
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Heh, Mike Portnoy from the modern times and KEITH MOON from "ye olde" times. Keith is considered as one of the best drummers, am I right ? His innovative style was well known. And probably still is. This Fear of a Blank Planet drum solo is short, but great. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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prog4evr
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Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Wuhan, China Status: Offline Points: 1455 |
Posted: June 12 2009 at 19:53 |
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1. Bruford (Yes), "Heart of the Sunrise" - about 1 minute in, with the keyboards and guitars doing the thematic riff. Truly, exceptional drum filling there.
2. Collins (Genesis), "Fountain of Salmacis" - great little jazz-inspired fill right after Gabriel sings: "...both had given everything they had..." 3. Barlow (JT), "Minstrel in the Gallery" (title song) - all throughout, wonderfully tasteful fills. 4. Mosley (Marillion), "Misplaced Childhood" - several places throughout the whole album (as was mentioned above in another comment). 5. Phillips (Mike Rutherford), "Smallcreep's Day" - nice fills throughout the whole song, Out Into the Daylight, but especially the machine-gun double-bass towards the end - very sweet! Probably others, but can't think of them right now... |
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18698 |
Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:25 |
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Hi,
Phil Collins' best drumming is on the Eno's albums ... not Genesis!
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Snow Dog
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:31 |
Or possibly Brand X?
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:36 |
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Oh man... Well for starters I love the mini drum solos in April Ethereal - Opeth. They are so simple, yet so powerful and show off how much style Lopez has. Next up are the little drum fills in Soul Burn - Meshuggah. Another honorary mention goes to Gavin Harrisons massive hi-hat based fill in Fear Of A Blank Planet.
Not prog, but the drum fill that links the guitar solo to the epic bridge in Cast Down The Heretic - Nile is absolutely MEGA. |
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg |
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mr.cub
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Joined: March 06 2009 Location: Lexington, VA Status: Offline Points: 971 |
Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:42 |
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The man to the left certainly is near and dear to my heart when it comes to drum fills. I guess I will list a few of my favorites...
For starters at least...
Baba O'Riley- The Who (Moon's entry is the reason why i picked up a pair of drum sticks)
Scatterbrain- Jeff Beck (pure technical wizardry)
Karn Evil 9- ELP (2nd and 3rd Impressions)
Cinema Show- Genesis (Instrumental part, Phil is omnipotent)
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el dingo
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Joined: October 08 2008 Location: Norwich UK Status: Offline Points: 7053 |
Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:52 |
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Mine have all been said: Mani & Moon for sheer originality and Bonham for... well, I'm not a drummer - I just like the sheer power of the guy, I guess
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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American Khatru
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Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
Posted: June 18 2009 at 06:38 |
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Obvious mention goes to Bruford in "One More Red Nightmare." Those spaces in the instrumental chorus possess fills ranging from the sublime to the hilarious.
Oh, and the little moment in "Great Deceiver" just after the church organ/vocal break. Ooh! And how could we forget "In the Court of the Crimson King"? Also agree with earlier poster about that one fill in CttE. Edited by American Khatru - June 18 2009 at 15:50 |
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American Khatru
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Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
Posted: June 18 2009 at 15:18 |
And how about those three break-fills in Hunting Girl? And a whip-crack overdub?! |
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DrummerDad
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Joined: June 14 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10 |
Posted: June 18 2009 at 16:47 |
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Favorite drum fill? Dang thats hard. A few that I really like are:
Set the world on Fire (Symphony X) at 5:05-- Simple but powerful
Ytse Jam (Dream Theater) at 3:47--old, but still a good fill
When the water breaks (Liquid tension experiment) from 9:30 thru 10:08. I love this whole section, and the fills are great.
There are tons that stand out, but I cant call any my favorite. I like whichever I heard last, the best.
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Nager
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Joined: December 27 2008 Location: Dresden Status: Offline Points: 18 |
Posted: June 18 2009 at 18:23 |
 I'm not a drummer myself but i'm obsessed with Christian Vander's drumming (of MAGMA fame). The particular way he goes about his work is quite something special. He seems to improvise his fills on the spot most of the time and in the spur of the moment he gets completely carried away with his music. I mean, he's even drumming when he's not drumming, e.g. he hits some notes *not* and you see him rolling his eyes instead (one of the things he's "famous" for). Sometimes, at least in his earlier days, he got carried away a bit too far - but then he has these moments of pure genius when he does something totally incredible to make up for it. Love, love, love this guy. Let me give you some examples: Kohntarkosz excerpt (2007) - This one is full to the brim with amazing fills. As far as I understand it Vandar plays his own syncopated counter-beat to the "main" beat, steadies it with the hi-hat and improvises all over it (even polyrhythmic) while he's at the same time very careful *not ever* to overlap with the "main" beat. See him starting at 0:30 in a neverending series of awsome fills. The video is titled "Guitar solo", but really, it's the drums that blow me away and I have yet to recover... Favorite fills: 2:29 - 2:32, 4:13-4:14 (the look on his face) and of course 4:37-4:43 (the look on his face!). Mekanik Kommandoh (2006) - 1:00 - 1:26 monster fills + trademark eye rolls at 4:54. ;) Mekanik Kommandoh (1977). Not quite as sophisticated, but here you can see the sheer energy and madness of the man on his prime (the guitarist is totally not Luke Skywalker). Unique Vander moment: 4:00 (Bruce Lee impression). |
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American Khatru
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Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
Posted: June 20 2009 at 07:05 |
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I know the fills of the album side Tarkus like the back of my hand. Ever since I was a child I noted and enjoyed Palmer's trademark thinking and, well, delicious sloppiness (his timing often warps during fills, but in such a musical way that there's no issue for me). "Stones of Years" is chock full. I'm sure some would say Palmer fills too much; I'd say get out of the kitchen then, 'cause that's what these guys are cookin'.
My personal favorite? Really, I tried to think of only one, but... I find my favorites here are not the hardest things at all: "Stones of Years" at about 3'20; the close of "Manticore" (and may as well mention the opening of "Battlefield"); 40 seconds into "Battlefield" there's a kick-snare pattern, used again at about 1'28 (sloppy stuff, but become so 'signature' to me), also during the guitar solo (about 1'57); and finally, at about 0'42 in "Aquatarkus," there's just a cymbal crash - it's not much of a "fill" in terms of size, it's apropos of nothing, and I can't live without it! (Btw, I left out that whole middle of "Mass" only because to me it's not really a section of drum fills but more a duet of Emerson and Palmer. Super great anyway. I especially love the sparser moments, like the choked cymbal and lone kick hits.) |
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tamijo
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Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
Posted: June 20 2009 at 15:45 |
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Indicipline King Crims - Bruford- All the "drum-fillings"
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I LIKE IT !! - too Edited by tamijo - June 20 2009 at 15:57 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Stooge
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Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
Posted: June 20 2009 at 16:23 |
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Phil Collin's fills on "Fly on a Windshield" stick in my head.
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