Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Music Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Good lyrics in prog.. ? Where are they ?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedGood lyrics in prog.. ? Where are they ?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 891011>
Author
Message
American Khatru View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2009
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2010 at 12:26
^  "Dr. Diper", good name!  Will you clean off my windshield wiper.

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

Back to Top
Dr. Diper View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie


Joined: November 21 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2010 at 13:41
Lol, thanks. Only 2 days away from my listen to The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway while driving in my car on the first day of Spring tradition. I don't know why, but the opening title track just suits spring for me.
My avatar is the vocalist of glam rock/brit pop band Suede (aka the London Suede in USA). They were once good before the guitarist left the band. Albums to hear: self titled debut and 'Dog Man Star.'
Back to Top
sigod View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 17 2004
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 2779
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by Synchestra Synchestra wrote:

Kevin Gilbert's lyrics are fantastically sardonic, some of the best I've ever heard.

I couldn't agree more sir. A couple of listens to The Shaming Of The True taught me that.
I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
Back to Top
Ronnie Pilgrim View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 09 2010
Location: The South of TX
Status: Offline
Points: 771
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2010 at 19:45
So when Goldilocks listened to Roger Waters, she said "this lyricist is overrated." And when Goldilocks listened to Ian Anderson she exclaimed "this lyricist is underrated.' But when Goldilocks listened to Peter Gabriel she squealed "this lyricist is rated just right!"

Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - March 20 2010 at 19:49
Back to Top
American Khatru View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2009
Location: New York
Status: Offline
Points: 732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2010 at 21:33
Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

So when Goldilocks listened to Roger Waters, she said "this lyricist is overrated." And when Goldilocks listened to Ian Anderson she exclaimed "this lyricist is underrated.' But when Goldilocks listened to Peter Gabriel she squealed "this lyricist is rated just right!"
LOLClapClapClapClapClap

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

Back to Top
idiotPrayer View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 06 2009
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 324
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:21
some of these may be non-prog:
Meshuggah (get your dictionary ready), Porcupine Tree, Mastodon, Tool, Radiohead etc

sh*t lyrics:
Dream Theater, modern KC, Rush (they have some good stuff though)

note this is an opinion not a statement
Back to Top
Ronnie Pilgrim View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 09 2010
Location: The South of TX
Status: Offline
Points: 771
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:28
You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. 
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. 
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that could kill. 
I will choose a path that's clear - I will choose free will.

Not bad, for sh*t lyrics, eh?


Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - March 21 2010 at 09:40
Back to Top
idiotPrayer View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 06 2009
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 324
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:45
Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. 
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. 
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that could kill. 
I will choose a path that's clear - I will choose free will.

Not bad, for sh*t lyrics, eh?


Rush - Freewill ? I think I said that they have some good stuff too, but generally their lyrics are geeky science fiction stuff that's not excactly what I personally like in lyrics. Good music though.

"During the band's early years, Peart's lyrics were largely fantasy/science fiction-focused, though since 1980 he has focused more on social, emotional, and humanitarian issues" -wikipedia
Back to Top
Zombywoof View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: November 26 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1217
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:50
I  actually do own a book of Ian Anderson lyrics / poetry!
Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ...
Back to Top
thellama73 View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: May 29 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 8368
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:54
Originally posted by idiotPrayer idiotPrayer wrote:

Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. 
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. 
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that could kill. 
I will choose a path that's clear - I will choose free will.

Not bad, for sh*t lyrics, eh?


Rush - Freewill ? I think I said that they have some good stuff too, but generally their lyrics are geeky science fiction stuff that's not excactly what I personally like in lyrics. Good music though.

"During the band's early years, Peart's lyrics were largely fantasy/science fiction-focused, though since 1980 he has focused more on social, emotional, and humanitarian issues" -wikipedia


What, you don't think By-Tor and the Snow Dog is lyrically genius?Shocked
Back to Top
Ronnie Pilgrim View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 09 2010
Location: The South of TX
Status: Offline
Points: 771
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 09:59
Originally posted by idiotPrayer idiotPrayer wrote:

 
Rush - Freewill ? I think I said that they have some good stuff too, but generally their lyrics are geeky science fiction stuff that's not excactly what I personally like in lyrics. Good music though.

Yes. Agreed. Embarrassed


Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - March 21 2010 at 09:59
Back to Top
Lizzy View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 15 2010
Location: Schnitzelland
Status: Offline
Points: 4675
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2010 at 10:45
Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

I  actually do own a book of Ian Anderson lyrics / poetry!


Really? Very intriguing! Because I remember him pretty much loathing being called a poet. Talk about modesty.LOL

Anyways.... good lyrics, if we're talking about Tull, the first song that comes to mind is Heavy Horses. They paint a better image of the beautiful animals than any Stubbs painting. (and I'm a huge Stubbs fan!)
Other brilliant lyrics one can find in Spirogyra's Cogwheels, Crutches and Cyanide. ;) There are plenty of good lyrics in prog. You just have to know where to look.

Property of Queen Productions...
Back to Top
Crestal Myth View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie
Avatar

Joined: February 27 2010
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 14
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2010 at 13:44
Maybe it's just me, but the "best" prog seems to have the worst lyricism (Porcupine Tree [my favourite band], The Mars Volta, etc.  All subjective, of course, hence the quotation marks around "best".)  The concepts are good, but they are somewhat poorly written.  Then again, prog tends to lean away from lyrics and toward simply sounding good.
Back to Top
Silverbeard McStarr View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 05 2009
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 167
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2010 at 14:20
There's plenty of good lyrics in prog. But they tend to be rather eclectic and "odd" compared to other rock genre's lyrics. Folk rock came about as music set to poetry, you can't really beat Dylan. But I personally like several prog rock bands mostly due to their lyrics. My favourite piece of lyrics ever comes from Genesis.

How wonderful to be so profound, when everything you are is dying underground.

It's also very hard to pick out individual pieces of lyrics from a prog rock song. In prog, the lyrics always functions more as a narrative. A story. It's not wise words or pieces of poetic gold. The lyrics in Pink Floyd's The Final Cut are all brilliant, emotional and deep. Yet, you can't really pick out a line that makes everyone go: "ooh, that's smart". Not like Dylan. Hell, some prog even uses lyrics for a technical effect. Take Gentle Giant's Knots.
Back to Top
Sixes&Sevens View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: September 03 2009
Location: Scotland, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 31
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2010 at 17:43
I too think Steven Wilson's a really great lyricist.

I genuinely feel that Ian Kenny, of Aussie prog rockers KARNIVOOL, is a phenomenal lyricist, vocalist and storyteller. He's a massive inspiration to me!

Check out some of the stuff from their newest album "Sound Awake" - there's some really really great lyrics on tracks like 'Goliath', 'Set Fire To The Hive', 'Deadman' and 'Change'... it's a beautiful record as well.
A Torn Mind | Scottish Progressive Rock Band
www.atornmind.com
www.myspace.com/atornmindband
Back to Top
tamijo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 06 2009
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 4287
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2010 at 11:57
Hmm Turn the question around, besides Lenon (in a few brilliant moments) Dylan & Morrison.
What non prog songs would be able to even come close to PG or early KC
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
Back to Top
Zeromus218 View Drop Down
Forum Newbie
Forum Newbie


Joined: March 03 2010
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 33
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 01:24
I think that Peter Hammill is the real deal...
he has got a brilliant poetry.
Of course Morrison too, but i don't think that he can be considered in this specifical context.


EDIT: i forgot to say that i really appreciated the lyrics of Arcadium's Breathe Awhile too... really nice ones.


Edited by Zeromus218 - March 24 2010 at 01:25
Back to Top
shockedjazz View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 12 2008
Location: Madrid (spain)
Status: Offline
Points: 169
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 10:29

Dylan vs Peter Hammill ? Ok but then you find Dylan is singing in horrible voice making songs were three chords repeat all the time....i have my nervous break with "Mr jones" (Please end the song right now)

Hammill instead is playing with a saxophone genius and a musical context that lets the lyrics breathe, and express.
Anyway nothing of Dylan except maybe "Ma im only bleeding" can compare remotely with lyrical effort/geniality of "Pawn Hearts".
Back to Top
shockedjazz View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: March 12 2008
Location: Madrid (spain)
Status: Offline
Points: 169
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 10:32
And yes "All along the watchtower"...have to agree and bow to these song.
Back to Top
TGM: Orb View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 21 2007
Location: n/a
Status: Offline
Points: 8052
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2010 at 12:17
Originally posted by shockedjazz shockedjazz wrote:

Dylan vs Peter Hammill ? Ok but then you find Dylan is singing in horrible voice making songs were three chords repeat all the time....i have my nervous break with "Mr jones" (Please end the song right now)

Hammill instead is playing with a saxophone genius and a musical context that lets the lyrics breathe, and express.
Anyway nothing of Dylan except maybe "Ma im only bleeding" can compare remotely with lyrical effort/geniality of "Pawn Hearts".


Palm/face connection complete, and I say that as one of the more extreme Hammill fans on here.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 891011>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.207 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.