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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 16:46
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Starless Starless wrote:

Thanks Chris - very informative. So buying a second hand cd has no detrimental effect on the artist as the royalty has already been paid. Feel better now!
This is true - the artist only gets paid royalties on the initial sale of the cd - they don't get paid royalties again on secondhand sales - just like any other reselling transaction - the Ford Motor Co doesn't get paid again when you buy a used car.


Actually, a year ago or some more I read that there is a tax of 5% applied to all resellings of copyrighted goods, which is collected by the organizations dedicated to collective rights management (or what's their name). I'd have to dig deep to find that article I read, though.
That has to be some wonky socialist Euro thing, I'm 100% positive nothing like that exists in the US.
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2010 at 16:50
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

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a few years ago I heard from a relatively well-placed (worldwide known) Greek metal band that they were getting paid about 1-2 cents per cd sold Pinch from their record company

They got paid ??? They are the lucky ones, then. 


I'll take a guess that was Rotting Christ and Century Media.
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Points: 85 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 04:52
harmonium - I've not heard of this tax - it has certainly never existed in the UK. Can't see how would it work anyway. If you buy a second hand cd from a market stall how on earth is the copyright authority going to be able to collect the tax?
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 05:28
Originally posted by Starless Starless wrote:

harmonium - I've not heard of this tax - it has certainly never existed in the UK. Can't see how would it work anyway. If you buy a second hand cd from a market stall how on earth is the copyright authority going to be able to collect the tax?
I agree, many secondhand CD sellers don't even pay VAT to the tax man, so how can they pay a royalty tax?
 
However, it does sound like one of those ill-considered hare-brained ideas they think up in Brussels. LOL
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 05:49
Originally posted by Starless Starless wrote:

harmonium - I've not heard of this tax - it has certainly never existed in the UK. Can't see how would it work anyway. If you buy a second hand cd from a market stall how on earth is the copyright authority going to be able to collect the tax?


Well, if you sell something (legally), you have to fill papers with what products you're selling. Tracking the legal sales of music, books, etc would not be a problem.

I'll try to find the article where I read this.
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Points: 85 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:40
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Well, if you sell something (legally), you have to fill papers with what products you're selling. Tracking the legal sales of music, books, etc would not be a problem.


 
Actually, no you don't, not if you're a market trader in the UK anyway!
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:44
Originally posted by Starless Starless wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Well, if you sell something (legally), you have to fill papers with what products you're selling. Tracking the legal sales of music, books, etc would not be a problem.


 
Actually, no you don't, not if you're a market trader in the UK anyway!
Or even a eBay or Amazon marketplace seller come to that, unless you are a registered trading company complete with VAT registration number (which many are not).
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:48
^ and ^^: agreed, most of the second hand commerce (especially for books, CDs, etc) is anonymous and parallel to the "market". That's why I don't think such a tax could affect more than an insignificant percent of second hand sales. Works more in theory than in reality.
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