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    Posted: December 12 2010 at 20:10
Does anybody have any recs for violin-driven prog?  I'm thinking of more in a rock than an overly symphonic setting.
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Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.

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The David Cross era of King Crimson has violin (ofcourse), but it is more like part of the sound than a leading instrument. Perhaps on some songs it has a more important role. I particularly like the live version of Starless, where the violin takes the main theme of the first part of the song (I feel that theme was made for being played with violin instead of guitar).
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I agree with Ivan but any of these albums would fit the bill:










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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



Hard Rock and Prog in a perfect balance with the violin assuming the lead role along with keyboards.

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This entire album is string driven for the most part, and it's absolutely free.
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Dixie Dregs. Plenty of violin on all of their albums. The interplay between violin and guitar on much of their work is terrific.
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There are two I can think of.  For prog-jazz, try Michael Urbaniak, arguably the best jazz violinist ever.  His album, Atma, is a good place to start.  Also, After Crying is an instrumental prog band that features cello, violin, trumpet and piano.  Their album Megalozottak is excellent.
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High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......
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King Crimson's Red (album).

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KBB from Japan. Excellent band.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:31
I was going to mention the Dregs and Kansas, but I didn't think they were really "violin-driven" though the violin is or was integral.  Jean-Luc Ponty fits in more with that term.  His mid 70's solo stuff is superb.
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A very good Van der Graaf's album "The Quite Zone/Pleasure Dome"
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Curved Air's first three albums make excellent, extensive use of violin in a rock capacity.  Also they are just plain masterpieces.
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Originally posted by EGE YURTUM EGE YURTUM wrote:

High Tide - Simon House drives those records with some very unique and very noisy violin... he's a good few decibels lower with Hawkwind......
 
And his solo stuff as "Spiral Realms" where the music is treated so heavily to effects that it is actually hard to listen to at times. He also plays a lot of violin with Hawkwind -- best use of it is in "In the Hall of the Mountain Grill" and then "Astounding Sounds Amazing Music". Simon also doubles as the keyboard/synthesizer guy and oftens plays both at the same time when the synth sound is sequenced.
 
Others (out from the top of my head):
 
Graham Smith with VdGG/Peter Hammill
Graham Smith with String Driven Thing -- worth every moment of it!
 
Darryl Way with Curved Air -- shame on you for asking! Punishment is all three versions of Vivaldi with Cannons back to back full blast until you repent!
 
Jean Luc Ponti and others with Frank Zappa
 
David LaFlamme with It's a Beautiful Day
 
--- forget her name -- sorry --- the lady that passed away that played violin with Par Lindh -- she was better than him or the band!
 
Anekdotten has a violin, does it not?
 
PFM - Lots of violin in the earlier days
 
Banco also has violins and other instrumental pieces but they are all over the music, not exemplified as we prefer to in the "rock music" context
 
Amon Duul 2 has so much violin that no one listens to it! And it loves to duet an electric guitar ... and very well too! But it might be considered too proggy because it doesn't have that "anglo-american" sound! The way the violin is used here is different, because it is also soloing almost all the time right next to the guitar, and I think this confuses people's musical minds when they think that you can only hear one thing during a "solo" ... but what if it is NOT a solo, but a part of the music? ... Yeah ... !!!!
 
And ... I'm sorry ... I would rather listen to Charlie Daniels, or Doug Kershaw than have to live through a Kansas album again! At least you get some honesty and down home feeling in the music that is not pretentious or pleads to be something that one is not in my book!


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Points: 9182 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2010 at 21:32
The polish group BELIEVE does a good job with this.  Their player Satomi is excellent
I liked what the German group Pell Mell did too, although I guess that was more classical
The Canadian group FM used electric violin
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Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:


King Crimson's Red (album).


By the time they released that album, David Cross had already left the band (or rather, asked to leave), and thus there are no violins in it except for one live improv track (which I particularly don't even like).
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