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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2011 at 12:40
The real question is: is it legitimate to go back and change your rating? That's why I have always been a proponent of a "cooling" period where new releases are not rateable. Text reviews should always be welcome, but quantitative ratings are, as the premise of your post, skewed by the (won't use the 'f' word that ends with 'boy') people who are predisposed to grab their favorite band's new album the minute its released.

Everybody's taste changes and like it or not, albums sometimes don't stand the test of time. There was a time when there was an extremely limited number of progmetal bands. I regarded Dream Theater very highly for the first 2 albums. Now that i know what was really out there, and what has been subsequently created that is light years better than DT, they bore me, and in some cases, completely annoy. The Wall, used to seem so profound. In its case, its not just other music, but reading and life experience that really exposes The Wall as a 90 minute transferal whine by a self-absorbed masochist.

So I guess, yes, we (meaning everybody elseTongue) are too generous. But really, the ratings say more about the rater than the album.  That's why its a good idea to look at member profiles and get an idea of what they like and how the give ratings to really determine if what you are seeing is indicative of quality, or just personal taste. 
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Yes. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2011 at 12:30
You are correct, good sir. Which is why any reviewer worth his salt will wait a good 10 or so listens before passing judgement.

This is not always the case though. I still have the same feelings about Snakes & Arrows as when it was released. One of my favorite Rush albums!

I do find that the opposite is true as well. Some people will throw a band into the fire and then admit years later that, "it's actually a pretty good album, I just didn't 'get' it at the time"
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I've noticed that when a new album comes out by a relatively well known prog artist that we(the community) seem to give the new release very high ratings within a relative short time though the ratings seem to "come down to earth" after certain amount of duration and/or with more ratings. Do you see the same trend? Are we being too generous with our ratings with a new release? Is it the anticipation, hype, hope, desire for a new release to be a "classic"? Is a new release like getting a new toy? WOW! This is fantastic! But like so many new things we acquire, does it lose it's appeal after a certain amount of time(number of listens)?
 
When you rate a new album here on the progarchives, do you go back after a certain number of listens to adjust your first rating when you listened to the album within a short time after it's release? For example; say after three listens to the new release you rate it 5 stars, but after numerous listens you realise it's not worthy of 5 stars and you adjust your rating to 4 stars, 3 stars, ...? Or do you tend to rate a new release with a conservative rating after a relative few listens and find yourself giving that album a higher rating after numerous listens?
 
For me, listening to a new release after 3 or 4 listens I tend to give it a conservative rating and usually adjust the rating higher after many listens. Of course, some albums I have rated lower than my first rating.
 
Your thoughts? Your trends on rating albums here on progarchives? Do you see the same trend as I do with the ratings with a new release?
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