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Bonnek ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4521 |
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Sure, and two weeks from now this review will be totally burried and forgotton under piles of (hopefully) more informative points of views, so it's no big deal. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Unless you have proof positive Karl we have no choice.
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Bonnek ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4521 |
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Quite the coincidence this review comes a few hours after the album has leaked, so I'm not inclined to believe the reviewer's claim. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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There are promo copies of Clockwork Angels and several reviews by "professional" reviewers have already been published elsewhere on the internet and in print.
We have to take the word of the reviewer when they say they have a promo copy.
Robbob's review follows the same format as his other reviews - they are not up to our standards which is why he is not a Prog Reviewer even with the huge number of reviews he has written.
If I was a record promoter I would not be sending him any promos based upon his reviews, but marketing is marketing and I doubt that any of these record labels bother to check the credentials of anyone who asks for promo copies for review. Edited by Dean - June 05 2012 at 02:50 |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23122 |
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Well he could be some kind of co or whatev, because when you take a look at his review history, there are heaps of 'promo' copies. I am not sure what to think, but then again, if we can't prove anything, and he isn't breaking any of our guidelines, then just leave him be.
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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Actually, I was talking amongst the collaborators over on MMA and it's highly possible that this guy didn't listen to the album at all. I mean, I've talked to people who actually professionally write reviews and Roadrunner is NOT giving out promotional copies. And if you read the guy's review, he says NOTHING. Not a single piece of information that couldn't be made up without having ever listened to the album. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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Agreed. The guy clearly listened to it once, with low expectations to begin with. |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32581 |
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No offense to anyone, but I find it funny that people consider Storm Corrosion to be "innovative" or "inventive." There are several acts who have been making similar music for a long time (and doing it better, in my opinion).
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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Seriously, this makes me mad because I would've loved to have received a promo copy of this and if I had, I would've taken more time and put a lot more thought into my review:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=763909 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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No, it's not cool, but what can you do? It's not against the rules or anything - both reviews would exceed 100 words without the superflous repeated paragraph, so it's not pointless waffle. |
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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I don't know if this has been touched on before, but ...
Is it cool if a person repeats a paragraph in more than one review? Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 19 2012 at 13:41 |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I never said it was just that one, hence my words "for example".
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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^^ you do need to insert Kayo Dot between Bath / Leaving Your Body Map and Part the Second, then it makes more sense. They are in Post Metal for the former albums, not the latest - we cannot split bands between two subgenres so they go in the one that is most representative of their key "era", which is Avant/Post metal.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23122 |
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Hey man no biggie - I was also pretty provocative. Peace
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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It's not just that post either, I have seen in a number of other threads when I, or someone else, asked for recommendations, specifying that they liked things that clearly fall in the Progressive Metal category, MoTW always seems to get thrown in. Hey, I don't mind recommendations, but when you're dealing with a Prog Metal fan maybe you should preface your MoTW recommendation with a disclaimer that they're not really metal...unless you have a really good imagination? ![]() |
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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Ah, no, I'm sorry dude - when I wrote that review I was anticipating someone trashing me in the forums and when I saw the almost instant reaction I came in ready to fight for my honor. ![]() |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5160 |
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I think it does question genre placement but this is something we have learned to live with since genre is defined by band not by album. Genesis We Can't Dance is placed under Symphonic but by now I don't think anybody knowing how the site works will make a big fuss about it in a review.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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^ agreed.
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5160 |
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Although I'm not much into these styles I think that Part the Second should not be listed in any lists containing the word "metal" (Bath and Leaving Your Body Map certainly can as long as people stretch their understanding of "metal" to include Post Rock / Post Metal / Experimental / Avant Metal / MIO (aka Metal In Opposition) or whatever you want to call it).
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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![]() Andy's post there says all I need to say:
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