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Barah86 
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 Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:47 |
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Firth Of Fifth is incredible! I would say it's probably the best piece of music ever written...
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Death seed blind man's greed
Poets' starving children bleed
Nothing he's got he really needs
Twenty first century schizoid man. 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:37 |
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I don't throw about masterpiece easily but I'm comfortable with it being applied to that song. As far as being generic prog? So what? It has a lot of the elements that most of like in prog.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Quirky Turkey
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:30 |
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I honestly think Firth of Fifth is perfect and probably the best song of all time. It also has every prog convention built in as well, such as structure, mood changes and instruments.
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:10 |
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Welcome to the real taste of music. Welcome to ProgArchives.
Or not ?
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frippism
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:05 |
 topographicbroadways wrote:
How infuriating. If only everybody shared your superior taste in music 
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well no need to be pissy... He wasn't trying to say his taste was superior... I think
I think it's overrated in prog circles. It's an OK song and all but nothing too special and the verses aren't that great.
It's kinda stupid to call it "generic" prog as it is the bands that were inspired by Genesis that made the sound of Genesis become "generic".
And yeah, if you like it doesn't matter if others don't yadda yadda.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:48 |
Blacksword wrote:
Along with the SO version of Cinema Show. Great air drumming tracks. A friend and I used to try and air drum through Seconds Out and Exit..Stage Left when we were about 15. We used to get through a whole album back then.
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I know what you mean - these days, I can barely get through 'Spirit Of radio' without needing a lie down & a cup of Ovaltine.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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topographicbroadways
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:33 |
How infuriating. If only everybody shared your superior taste in music
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:33 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:06 |
Blacksword wrote:
I heard the Seconds Out version before the SEBTP version of this song. At that time it was one the greatest pieces of rock music I had ever heard. I still actually prefer that version over the orginal. Played at earth shaking volume of course. |
Me too - agree 100%
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One of my favorite air-drumming tracks  
Edited by Jim Garten - June 21 2012 at 07:07
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 06:35 |
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Most people probably don't like it for the following reasons:
1) It's too long
2) It has multiple sections which differ from each other, with no discernable chorus, to latch on to.
3) The subject matter is obscure and irrellevent to most peoples lives.
4) The production is dull, and not sparkling and 'zingy' like bright pop production.
5) The singer is not warbling and yodelling and screaming like a woman sitting on a washing machine during the spin cycle.
It may not be generic prog rock to us, but to most people who have any concept of what prog rock is, it is probably pretty tedious, and unlistenable. I have long given up on playing music to people who I know won't be moved by it.
Basically I love this music for all the reasons that most people seem to hate it.
Edit: I heard the Seconds Out version before the SEBTP version of this song. At that time it was one the greatest pieces of rock music I had ever heard. I still actually prefer that version over the orginal. Played at earth shaking volume of course.
Edited by Blacksword - June 21 2012 at 06:38
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 06:09 |
The template for generic prog in the future, perhaps, but the track itself?
What's the word I'm looking for?
Ah yes - masterpiece!
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Los_Endos
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 05:50 |
By the way, my frustration is not entirely derived from this particular instance, but from many. The song has personal meaning to me definitely. I remember the song back in the 70's, at nights when we waited for my mum to come home from night shift my dad played this. The guitar solo brings tears to my eyes every time...bizarre I know.
however, I have played this song to friends and my wife...they sit and look at it as if i've played an unremarkable barry manilow song.
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Los_Endos
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 05:41 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ No not at all, before Genesis it is highly unlikely there was something that could even be deemed generic prog. Firth of Fifth is a masterful creation irrespective of what genre you happen to think it might make a convenient 'fit'
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That is my thought. Its unlike ANYTHING I have ever heard. Its clearly crafted from the imagination of several individuals. I bit my tongue until the the third review, which stated "generic prog" I couldn't see whom they could have copied the template from?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 05:22 |
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^ No not at all, before Genesis it is highly unlikely there was something that could even be deemed generic prog. Firth of Fifth is a masterful creation irrespective of what genre you happen to think it might make a convenient 'fit'
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Los_Endos
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 05:15 |
Ok. I am in this other forum that has bugger all to do with music...except they have a music section. Someone posted a game. Name 4 songs, we all review then and add 4 songs.
I added Firth as one of my songs. It was trashed to f**k by all...
"nice piano intro...turned into generic prog" "boring" etc 3/10 was average
I think its a masterpiece. An absolute masterpiece without question.
Question is. Am I over-rating this track? |
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