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Tapfret

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Posted: October 24 2012 at 00:07

^Best first post ever!

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Posted: October 23 2012 at 23:18

Did you know that if you search "marmite" and "progressive", you find about 2,030,000 results. We should explore and discuss them all...

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Posted: October 14 2012 at 04:04

Horizons wrote:

u mad bro

maybe he is,he made an thread about this

Life Can Be Hilariously Cruel.

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 17:51

HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.

Jeremy Bender is a good track. Funny, but quite enjoyble.

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 16:59

Nice - I feel the same.

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Posted: October 13 2012 at 15:34

Hey, for what it's worth, this thread motivated me to listen to ELP and I find them quite enjoyable. Tarkus might become a 5 star album by the time I decide to rate it. And contrary to just about everyone else, I like "Jeremy Bender" and "Are You Ready Eddy?". They're fun.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 22:14

Dayvenkirq wrote:

If ELP albums were there and rated relatively high, then all the other albums not by the band would be pushed out. Such is the trade-off. Don't forget that. Sufficient-number-of-ratings-and-reviews-cum-arithmetic-average system - what can you do about it?

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 20:31

altaeria wrote:

So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch

Go figure.

You wouldn't alienate yourself from PA if you said you like ABBA. People just don't agree that ELP must somehow occupy a higher place in the top 100. Basically, the top 100 is just a popularity contest and not highly relevant except for those who are new to prog for whom it's a handy reckoner of prog essentials.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 18:43

Dayvenkirq wrote:

altaeria wrote:

So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me... but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community. Ouch

Go figure.

Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.

As far as I'm concerned, I do like ELP very much, and they have done some incredible songs that I find among my very favourite prog songs. However, somehow they didn't manage to do any single album I would rate 5 stars, they all have many songs I don't really care much for, or even rather despise. I don't care if they are suposed to be pompous or egomaniac or whatever (hey, one of my favourite albums is Myths and Legends of King Arthur, by Rick Wakeman, you can hardly go more pompous than that). But when ELP goes into that, how to say it, kind of carnival groove, I really dislike them.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 17:49

^ Sarcasm on sarcasm - pretty clever, I'll give you that.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 12 2012 at 17:50

Dean

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:27

Dayvenkirq wrote:

Go figure.

Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.

That's it

- kick a man when he's down.

What?

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 16:08

Go figure.

Don't cry, dude. I really like Popol Vuh, but none of their albums are on that list. Can are highly lauded, but their albums aren't there either.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 15:29

octopus-4 wrote:

Go figure.

I like also the Nice, what should I say? Beer

Something not nice, preferably. Wink

Altaeria: Although I may not enjoy ELP that much on the whole (there was a time when I counted Trilogy amongst my very favourite albums, and when getting into Prog in a big way this past decade, it was one of my first purchases), if I were to make a list of what I think to be the most important Prog albums, ELP would feature prominently. It is a quintessential Prog band to me. But of course the top 100 is just a popularity list. It's not that represenative of my tastes, that's for sure, nor do I think it a great list when it comes to historical importance.

Considering your ratings, you hardly look the ELP fanboy type:

1 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER In The Hot Seat (rating only)
1 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Works Vol. 2(rating only)
2 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Black Moon (rating only)
3 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Emerson Lake & Powell(rating only)
2 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Works Vol. 1 (rating only)
4 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Tarkus(rating only)
3 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Trilogy(rating only)
5 stars

EMERSON LAKE & PALMER Emerson Lake & Palmer(rating only)

I also find the début best, and would have expected to see ELP quite highly ranked at one time. Pretty sure it was ranked much higher when I started visiting this site a lot back in 2005.

Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 15:10

Go figure.

I like also the Nice, what should I say? Beer

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 12:50

'OMG OMG Big Big Train or anythine else CANNOT be better than ELP, OMG OMG.'

Yeah....

Btw, I never check ranks, they useless for music appreciation. Do you really check ranks to know what you're gonna listen next?????

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altaeria

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 10:48

So I've reached the conclusion that my appreciation for ELP
not only alienates me from the vast majority of actual people around me...
but also from most of my "peers" in this virtual ProgArchives community.
Ouch

Go figure.

Tapfret

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Posted: October 12 2012 at 00:53

Flapkacls? Yum?

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Posted: October 11 2012 at 23:19

thellama73 wrote:

HolyMoly wrote:

The Greek have four words for love, and the Americans have four words for grilled batter.

You seem to be drawing a distinction between love and grilled batter. This confuses me.

Pancakes: Self-giving/divine grilled batter
Hotcakes: Romantic/sexual grilled batter
Waffles: Friendship related to grilled batter
Flapkacls: Fondness/companionship/familial grilled batter

I love dogs, I've always loved dogs

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Posted: October 11 2012 at 14:46

Originally posted by theadolescentprogger

theadolescentprogger wrote:

Well, does the Top 100 really matter? Granted, I personally believe that ELP should be rated higher, but really, I shan't be losing sleep over it.

If ELP albums were there and rated relatively high, then all the other albums not by the band would be pushed out. Such is the trade-off. Don't forget that. Sufficient-number-of-ratings-and-reviews-cum-arithmetic-average system - what can you do about it?

Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 11 2012 at 14:47

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Posted: October 11 2012 at 11:21

Thanks, oh Newbie one - saved me using this emoticon:

Hmmm - I just did, didn't I?

Never mind, now, where was I? oh yes...

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