"The Others" Bass Guitarists!

antonyus wrote: Klaus peter matziol from ELOY !!!

ABSOLUTELY!!

Continuing on the Floyd topic, I believe that Rog never played a fretless bass, so 'A Pillow Of Winds' must have Gilmour on bass.  Mason's drumming style is crucial to Floyd music.  In fact, limited talent doth not hamper creativity - Mason contributed more than just drums to Floyd, just like their interest in architecture, the music of Floyd is built from simple foundations and reached for the sky.  Gilmour is no Holdsworth, who cares, his long, sustained notes and attack are just heavenly.  Wright was an excellent keyboardist, 'nuff said.  I love Floyd, and owe it all to Floyd.......

Gandalff wrote: Neu!mann wrote: ...and where the heck is Ray Shulman on this list..? The Gentle Giant bassist was arguably a more inventive player than any of the above..!   Please read properly my introducing post. He belongs to the Top Bass Group. < id="foxcub_translator_popup_win" style="visibility: ; width: 0px; height: 0px; border: 0px; padding: 0px;">

Indeed !! Ray S is an incredible bass player. 

^Poor fellow suffered with Schizophrenia, which is not an easy thing to deal with.

Richard Sinclair with Jannick Top as a close second.

jude111 wrote: Dellinger wrote: RedNightmareKing wrote: Waters is my favorite IMO. They are all very good, but the funky bass parts on Echoes and AHM drive me nuts. And the use of effects on One of These Days is just superb...  Though the effects, and some of the bass playing, on "One of These Days" is suposed to have been Gilmour's doing. I saw an interview with Waters on youtube recently, in which he talked about going to college as a young man... When the interviewer asked if he had met Gilmour at college, Waters scoffed, "Gilmour isn't a university-educated bloke," or something to that effect. It really rubbed me the wrong way. But it made me think about the divisions in Floyd in a whole new way...

Well, Gilmour knew Syd Barret before all of the Pink Floyd thing, and suposedly it was Gilmour who taught Barrett to play the guitar. I'm not sure if that was the connection for which he was chosen to step in his place.

Top followed by J H-H and Sinclair

Dellinger wrote: jude111 wrote: Dellinger wrote: jude111 wrote: Seriously, Waters. He had a kind of style that was his own, and instantly recognizable. That slow thump with drummer Mason (also under-rated). He might not be Jaco, or Wetton or Geddy for that matter... but then, that wouldn't be Floyd, would it? He was instrumental to the sound of the band. But I somehow like better the bass sound from Gilmour, or the bass sounds used on Pink Floyd after Waters left. Of course, without Waters Pink Floyd wouldn't have achieved even a fraction of what they did, so it was much better having him as a creative force and a bass player than not having him at all. But for what it's worth, I believe Pink Floyd without either Waters, Gilmour, or Wright wouldn't have achieved a fraction of what they achieved together, it's only Mason that I'm more doubtful about the importance of his input to the band. I know that Gilmour claimed to lay down the bass on many Floyd tracks for THE WALL, and perhaps prior albums. I have a few doubts about this, though. For one thing, Waters really did write nearly all the music for THE WALL. In my opinion, Waters is a much more talented musician than he is generally given credit for. (As a guitarist, I'm impressed by compositions like "Cirrus Minor" and "Goodbye Blue Sky," and was astonished to learn that Waters, not Gilmour, wrote those pieces of music. Ditto "Hey You," which, if you are a guitarist and can play this, must admire its chord progression, phrasing, and overall musical structure.)   I think Mason's important as well. I mean, he's no Peart, sure. But Floyd was all about spaces between notes, less is more... Gilmour's solos were at half-speed, the Mason's beats, too... alot of space, haha. I wouldn't *want* Neil Peart in Floyd. It would sound like... I don't know, Eloy perhaps. (Who were good too :-) However, it is two different things to write the music and to perform it. As it is two different things if the music is complex and if it is enjoyable. Now, I already stated that as far as writing I consider Waters essential for Floyd (and on the singing department too). As far as playing the bass, well they didn't need more anyways, and when they needed, Gilmour was a perfect fit if the sories are true. At least about the bass parts on Hey You, I do believe they are played by Gilmour, and I do like them a lot; and Waters surely wrote the guitar parts on that song, but surely it was Gilmour who played them, not Waters. I'm not really sure about other bass parts that Gilmour might have played for Floyd, except on "One of this Days", the beginning of which I understand was played by both Gilmour and Waters, and involved some overdubs. And indeed Waters wrote most of the Wall (as well as all of the Final Cut), and that's just the basis on which I say they were all important, because it shows in this two albums that they lacked the input from Gilmour and Wright, and not for the best, in my opinion. As for Mason, what I meant about not knowing how important he was for the band is on the writing, or the sound of the band. Indeed, the band didn't need anything more, but I would guess there would be other drummers capable of playing at the right speed and so on... though I may be wrong, he might just as well have been the perfect fit for the band. As a matter of fact, I do love his drumming on some of the earlier songs, like "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun", specially the live versions, and I wish he had done more of that sort of drumming withing the band (though it might have been out of place from Dark Side of the Moon and aftewards).

I don't know where the notion that Waters wrote the guitar parts for Hey You comes from because according to Mason, Roger NEVER interfered with the guitar parts. Not even on The Final Cut.

Gilmour also plays bass on Pigs, Sheep and parts of Shine On.  There are a few more that I don't remember right now. And for an obscure fact; the intro to Money is played both with Roger on bass and Gilmour on guitar. It's what gives it that "fat" sound.  

I like Waters' bass playing though. He keeps a steady pace. I went to see a PF tribute band this summer and they played Dogs. They did it wee bit too slow which made it almost impossible to listen too. It was then it struck me that Waters has a funky groove that I enjoy.

As for Mason's importance in the band, he was the one who often was in charge of the sound effects. And I can't think of a better drummer for Floyd. The guy's got taste and class and he knows when enough is enough.

Bert Ruiter.

Dellinger wrote: RedNightmareKing wrote: Waters is my favorite IMO. They are all very good, but the funky bass parts on Echoes and AHM drive me nuts. And the use of effects on One of These Days is just superb...  Though the effects, and some of the bass playing, on "One of These Days" is suposed to have been Gilmour's doing.

I saw an interview with Waters on youtube recently, in which he talked about going to college as a young man... When the interviewer asked if he had met Gilmour at college, Waters scoffed, "Gilmour isn't a university-educated bloke," or something to that effect. It really rubbed me the wrong way. But it made me think about the divisions in Floyd in a whole new way...