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apps79 
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 Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:03 |
 aapatsos wrote:
CDs - strange how these days CDs are considered "old", I am of those that moved from the cassette to CD.
Vinyls are for serious collectors, I don't consider myself one of them - plenty of "heartless" mp3s in my collection, to which I listen more and more with time as I am lazy to get to the CD player...
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:27 |
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I originally bought vinyl back in the seventies but started switching to cassettes by 1979 or so because most of my listening was in my car. I switched to cds in the nineties because to my ears they sounded so much clearer than cassettes did. My daughter bought a turntable about 6 months ago so I do intend to buy some vinyl because beleive it or not there are some albums that can only be bought that way. I believe that includes GA'AN and ARCHAIA, and also HARMONIA's first album is only available on vinyl so I understand.
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presdoug
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:40 |
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I play CDs only, and i don't have the capability to download or stream music, because, believe it or not, i am still on old dail up internet access.
I like vinyl, but live in a bachelor apartment, so Cds are better in terms of the space they occupy.
Edited by presdoug - June 16 2013 at 10:51
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:41 |
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Vinyl Rules. There's a second hand record store in Montreal ( Beatnick ) that doesn't even buy CDs anymore! the only problem with vinyl is once you've collected a lot of it it becomes a storage problem and is hard to move around. I just moved to Ontario from Montreal avd believe me it was a bitch.
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presdoug
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:46 |
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^I've been to Beatnik in the past, cool store.
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bobthenob
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:46 |
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I collected vinyl when it was the dominant form of distribution. As CD's became prevelant, so did my collection of said. Uploads mean nothing to me. All of my Ipod tunes are burned from CD. I collect CD's now because they are the most popular form of distribution that is still in a physical format....I'm an old capitalist, I guess...I like to own "things".
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Nightfly
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 10:57 |
I was very reluctant to make the move from vinyl to cd back in the 80's - hated cd's at first which sounded terrible back then but i was forced into it through lack of availability of stuff on vinyl. I have far more cd's than vinyl but I do prefer the warmth and depth of a good quality vinyl pressing as well as larger cover art.
Digital download - never bought anything and never will.
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Gerinski
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 11:30 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
the only problem with vinyl is once you've collected a lot of it it becomes a storage problem and is hard to move around. I just moved to Ontario from Montreal avd believe me it was a bitch. |
I also moved recently, I have a bit of everything but most of my current collection is CD, and I'm not sure you can say that CD music is easier to move / takes less space than vinyl LPs, CDs are smaller but also wider, so I'm not sure of the total result in terms of volume and weight to be moved (of course digital music is in another league). Sure, for something like a car audio system, LP is far too big and not convenient, but in terms of CD taking generally less space / weight than LPs I'm not 100% convinced.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 12:33 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Vinyl Rules. There's a second hand record store in Montreal ( Beatnick ) that doesn't even buy CDs anymore! the only problem with vinyl is once you've collected a lot of it it becomes a storage problem and is hard to move around. I just moved to Ontario from Montreal avd believe me it was a bitch. |
Yeah storage and transport can be an issue. I've moved 15 times in the past 30 years and there has been some challenges and collateral damage to the collection. When I was in boot camp and my first couple years in the Marines I had to store my vinyl at one of my brother's houses and a couple hundred records 'disappeared'. After I got married we moved from the Mojave Desert to Chicago during the summer and the logistics of keeping vinyl from melting in the truck were daunting. And when we moved from Chicago to Kansas City I made a separate trip in my car just to haul the records (got two speeding tickets in Missouri along the way).
But in the end I'm glad to still have them even though most of my listening today is via streaming or mp3s.
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CPicard
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 12:49 |
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I make my own cassettes with recycled magnetic tapes.
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 12:50 |
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It's an old story and I remember the same kind of poll several times in the past. Nobody will be allowed to remove the scratches from my vimnyl copy of Atom Heart Mother. This is how I went to love that album. CD is too aseptic, I like it dirty.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 12:56 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Vinyl vendors are a special breed. They're all somewhere around 60 to 70 years old, longish grey hair, unshaved, perhaps a bandana, glasses hanging around their neck in some orangy string. They've been to every concert with PinkFloydKingCrimsonJethroTullTangerineDream insert big/small/obscure name here, and they enjoy talking about them in the shop - preferably over a beer and a cigarette(in some instances pipe).
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One of the record stores in my city has a guy that pretty much exactly fits that description  but not the others.
I will acquire music in whatever format I can so I may listen to it. Truthfully although I do enjoy vinyl it has become my least-collected format, just because I do a lot of my listening while working on my computer and vinyl is a lot harder to digitize, unless it is new vinyl with a download card in which case it costs $30 for an album that costs $12 on CD.
I tend to go for CD first unless the cost is prohibitive, in which case unless it's an album I really really love digital is the way to go.
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Tasartir
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 13:27 |
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Digital -for someone who travels and has no stable home there's no other way to go (I do try to get the highest quality Mp3 possible though, but .flac files take up too much space so I've given up on them).
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Wanorak
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 13:40 |
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Vinyl because it just sounds so much better. Saying that, most of what I listen to now is digital because of the convenience.
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 14:36 |
I love vinyl but it's a pain in terms of time, care and storage.
CDs I still buy if I really love a album that's new to me, but I've gotten used to the modern iTunes/Spotify habit of creating collages/playlists--I rarely listen to a whole album start to finish anymore, so the whole digital & computer storage system works great for me. Plus, I'm too old to keep adding more physical junk to my shelves/storage.
Digital gets my nod for convenience and expedience. But, for recorded music, I do love vinyl best (100% virgin vinyl Japanese presses are preferred though I know of the health hazards involved therein) (probably cuz that's what I grew up with).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 14:42 |
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I wish people would stop saying vinyl sounds so much better. It doesn't.
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infocat
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 15:08 |
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I don't think I've listened to a vinyl record since I got a CD player in 1989. Of course I still, at the time, had my cassettes that I had recorded from vinyl.
I don't buy digital downloads. I only buy CDs. I only download free albums; but when I like them (and why would I download them otherwise?) I always buy them on CD when available. (Perhaps, I am talking to you!)
The one thing I miss about good ol' records is, of course, the album covers and readable liner notes. Wouldn't it have been great if, even though it could have been considered a waste of space, CDs would have been packaged in LP size packages??
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 15:39 |
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CD's as I like the convenience while still having something tactile, I'm not into renting my music via download. I'd love to buy vinyl but it's just not practical enough for everyday life. I transfer the CD's to hard-drive and listen to them on an ipod. Just too convenient.
I do believe that vinyl sounds better than CD for those with the patience or the aural ability to detect it but to my ears vinyl and CD's are both great.
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Ian
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Hercules
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 16:12 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I wish people would stop saying vinyl sounds so much better. It doesn't. |
It does. Miles better.
CDs are very unrealistic tonally and have a 2 dimensional soundstage.
Vinyls, played on a top quality player, have a solidity, tonal accuracy and depth of soundstage no CD player I have heard can get near.
I went out to find a CD player (I do have about 100 CDs) which could give a sound as good as my Pink Triangle Anniversary/SMEV/Lyra Lydian. I had a budget of £3000. In the end, the dealer got up to a £10000 player and it still didn't get close. I couldn't hear subtle details I KNEW were on the disc so I didn't buy.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 16 2013 at 16:15 |
Snow Dog wrote:
CD. grew up with Lp's. Glad they became obsolete. |
Obselete? Funny - there's far more vinyl available now than for years and turntable sales are higher than they have been since the early 90s. And vinyl was the only format that has seen sales growth in the last 5 years.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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