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http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/health/china-hand-leg/index.html?iref=allsearch

Something you don't see everyday. For those in the United States, complain about the price of surgeries, cause this complex surgery was only 50,000 USD....
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Stupid logic: 

You are supposed to be able to make decisions that affect the rest of your life and plan your future like signing up for college at 18. 
You can be sent to kill people and "defend" the country at 18. 

You can drink beer when you are 21. 
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Pretzel Logic..........in colorado you must be 18 to buy weapons and ammo
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Glorification of guns and cops and soldiers is all part of the same fear-violence loving culture. It's all sad. 
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Children solving problems with guns is very sad. The media patting the police on the back for the new methods of response is also sad, How about some attention devoted to prevention before the loss of life.
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Originally posted by ShipOfFools ShipOfFools wrote:

Anybody have an opinion on the recent wave of mass school shootings in the U.S.? I think there was a new one yesterday.


Tragic & horrible. That's my opinion. It's the only one you can have really, unless you want to get bogged down in a gun ownership debate, which I'm guessing no one does. So, that's about it really.
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My opinion is that I would rather they did not happen. And I'm pretty positive that one did not happen yesterday.
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Anybody have an opinion on the recent wave of mass school shootings in the U.S.? I think there was a new one yesterday.

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... a minor villain dies, the earth continues to spin


as you say... Meh.
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Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs dies

Yes, one of the first British criminals to attain pseudo celebrity status has died.

What's the word I'm looking for?

Meh.

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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Europa is a better bet for finding life since it appears to be geologically alive.


I agree, and I can't wait for the day that a probe is finally sent to explore the moon's ocean Thumbs Up Who knows what unimaginable wonders await us below the icy crust Approve
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I think Europa is a better bet for finding life since it appears to be geologically alive.
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I think Europa is more interesting than the moon or Mars.


Well, not if you believe in the Cydonian Hypothesis LOL
Seriously though, Europa would indeed be an interesting destination for an unmanned probe, but don't expect a manned mission anytime in the next couple of centuries Wink And Mars is quite an interesting planet, not only due to its proximity to Earth (and thus the possibility of human colonization) but also because it was probably habitable in the distant past. If extraterrestrial life once developed on Mars then it is possible that evidence of its past presence still exists. To be honest, I wouldn't be very surprised if scientists were to find microbial life still habiting the planet Smile
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I think Europa is more interesting than the moon or Mars.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by DreamReaper DreamReaper wrote:

The chinese Yutu rover made a successful lunar landing yesterday, marking the first soft landing on the Moon since 1976 and making China the third country to do so Clap

We need to have humans on Mars. When do you think that will happen?


Hopefully before I die... LOL There are currently various proposals for manned missions to both Mars and the Moon in this century. If we manage to return to the Moon in the next 20 years, then with a little luck we will be sending the first manned mission to Mars sometime in the 2050's... Any prediction that puts the first man on Mars before 2050 is far too optimistic in my opinion. But hey, i hope I'm wrong Wink
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Originally posted by DreamReaper DreamReaper wrote:

The chinese Yutu rover made a successful lunar landing yesterday, marking the first soft landing on the Moon since 1976 and making China the third country to do so Clap

We need to have humans on Mars. When do you think that will happen?
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The chinese Yutu rover made a successful lunar landing yesterday, marking the first soft landing on the Moon since 1976 and making China the third country to do so Clap
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

No, it's that few people bother with the Librarian thread any more. A news story however, is a news story even when politicised. Politics bores me ridged, US politics thrice so. The guy got off a custodial sentence through wealth, if wealth divides class then nowhere has a classless society and nowhere is apolitical. Justice should be non-partisan and classless but it never will be.
 
Too right nobody goes to the Librarian thread any more, at least anyone who's not a Librarian and isn't pro keeping books.  It's far too dangerous.  Just one word voicing your opposing views on Librarianship and the 'science' of keeping books and your life just ain't worth living.
 
Nope, just let that thread lie I say.
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Man bites dog - literally.
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Damn, quite prophetic. 

Not entirely related to the news story, but yesterday I heard Belshazzar, an oratorio by Handel, with libretto by Charles Jennens, whose opening words can't be a better description of the imperialistic US of A of today: 

"Vain, fluctuating state of human empire!
First, small and weak, it scarcely rears its head,
Scarce stretching out its helpless infant arms,
Implores protection of its neighbour states,
Who nurse it to their hurt. Anon, it strives
For pow'r and wealth, and spurns at opposition.
Arriv'd to full maturity, it grasps
At all within its reach, o'erleaps all bounds,
Robs, ravages and wastes the frighted world.
At length, grown old and swell'd to bulk enormous,
The monster in its proper bowels feeds
Pride, luxury, corruption, perfidy,
Contention, fell diseases of a state,
That prey upon her vitals. Of her weakness
Some other rising pow'r advantage takes,
(Unequal match!) plies with repeated strokes
Her infirm aged trunk: she nods, she totters,
She falls, alas, never to rise again!
The victor state, upon her ruins rais'd,
Runs the same shadowy round of fancied greatness,
Meets the same certain end." 
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