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timothy leary 
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Jurors began deliberating in the trial of two former California policemen Thursday in the 2011 beating death of a mentally ill homeless man that touched off protests and political upheaval in the Los Angeles suburb of Fullerton.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:33 |
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Perhaps Mark Duggan would have done better than to carry a gun around with him.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:40 |
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Not sure what that is or what it refers to since you didn't cite a source. Look 3/4 of the officers have been convicted. The other's trial has not yet concluded (or may not have started not sure). |
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Equality 7-2521
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Administering the death penalty without even having a trial for possession of a firearm. Makes sense. |
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timothy leary
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:42 |
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http://news.yahoo.com/trial-california-cops-death-homeless-man-goes-jury-193927372--finance.html
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timothy leary
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:45 |
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Nowhere in your link does it say they were convicted, hopefully today they will be.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:48 |
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Indeed, but a jury decided that that wasn't what happened. And he would have done better than to carry a gun around. Not the first occasion either. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:49 |
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Hmm. You're right. I'm sorry. I thought I had already read about this happening.
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timothy leary
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 14:56 |
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Not a problem I think we both would like to see justice.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 15:00 |
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NO. You are of course right. The officer concerned had decided at the time that he was guilty and didn't deserve a trial so he took the law into his own hands and executed Mr Duggan. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 15:05 |
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I wasn't talking to you. My comment to you still stands. I'm aware of the jury's poor decision in Duggan's case.
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 15:14 |
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Meanwhile in Iceland the police finally killed someone after like... ever, and they even APOLOGIZED to the family...
I know Iceland has like 10 people but still...
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 15:15 |
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Ah well. Maybe you should have made the decision.
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:32 |
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A little perspective is needed here I think.
Number of people killed by US police officers in 2011 - unknown, but average annual "justifiable homicides" is 400 (in 2012 it was 587) Number of people killed by UK police officers in 2011 - one (number killed in 2013 - zero) As a result of the Mark Duggan inquiry UK all armed police are to use body cameras from August of this year.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:39 |
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At least someone being killed by the police not only makes the news here, but, its headline news and apparently makes the news in the States too!
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timothy leary
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 16:56 |
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So now we turn it in to a pissing match between the U.S. and the U.K........not the reason for my initial post
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Dean
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 17:43 |
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No, I made a comparison between two radically different approaches to armed policing. Your initial post was the spark, the discussion moved on, but if that's your attitude then all I can say is guns=bad and killing = bad and that's about the full extent of my interest here.
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timothy leary
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 17:57 |
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Using frequency for perspective I am sure is reassuring to the families of victims of police brutality
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Posted: January 09 2014 at 23:05 |
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Rather humane of them.. Something the governments of the US and the UK have failed to do with the whole… Snow…den… incident
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Posted: January 10 2014 at 00:04 |
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Is the cult of guns related to the cult of cops?
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