3rd Rd. Classics: Aja v. The Alphabet Album

Where did I say anything about that?  Your penchant for twisting others' statements completely out of context just to post that stupid emoticon is ridiculous.  I simply said ABBA were fully capable of writing complex songs too and that never came in the way of their getting called pop.  For that matter, cut out the flab and Shorter's solos and Deacon Blues IS pretty straight up.  As is Peg, which was a #11 single on the US Billboards at that time.  So the idea that Aja has something to do with pop is not as off base as you are so desperately trying to make out.   Mister, you can't have it both ways.  First you say people only discredit Steely Dan because they don't like jazz and/or have an agenda against it, then you say hardcore jazz fans are the kind of guys who dislike any other jazz rock too and not just SD.  Either make up your mind or simply take opinions related to music taste on face value and keep moving right on.

Edited by rogerthat - August 15 2015 at 10:19

Nope, maybe they simply don't like AJA all that much.  Does the idea that such a thing is at all possible rattle your worldview out of shape perchance?

Edited by rogerthat - August 15 2015 at 10:23

don't forget the all important 4th

4) contrarians who don't agree with it being 'hyped' as one of the best, more perfect, albums of all time.


Edited by micky - August 15 2015 at 10:44

micky wrote: don't forget the all important 4th 4) contrarians who don't agree with it being 'hyped' as one of the best, more perfect, albums of all time.

Edited by Svetonio - August 15 2015 at 10:58

Svetonio wrote: micky wrote: don't forget the all important 4th 4) contrarians who don't agree with it being 'hyped' as one of the best, more perfect, albums of all time. I'm afraid that Steely Dan's Aja in its own category -vocally jazz-rock- is  the best album ever recorded. Even Close To The Edge has its rival in Fragile in that category of 70s English Symphonic rock, but Aja hasn't.

The lyrics are objectively pants, I don't like the vocals and there's not much improvisation. I don't really get how this is the peak of vocally jazz rock while we have records like Colosseum Live! or Shadows and Light or Hatfield or Area's stuff. There's not a lot of big bandy jazz rock with vocals, I'll give you.

Finnforest wrote: I like Aja, but these days I like Gaucho a lot more.  And the first Dan album still slays me.

Have to say all those early SD albums slay me. Can't conceive of a collection that doesn't include all of the first seven SD. I still don't see them as a prog band but we've already beaten that one to death. They are here, so be it. Aja got my vote.

...... but I really do like the Alphabet Soup and wish I hadn't had to choose between them, even though it was never really open to question.

For some people who don't have idea what was popular jazz i.e. "jazz pop" in 1977, so at the same year when jazz-rock album Aja was released, here's a nice example

You could just admit you are looking for an excuse to post a youtube video. 

rogerthat wrote: You could just admit you are looking for an excuse to post a youtube video.

And when that doesn't works he gets insulting (like he just did).
Yep I think you called it earlier on: it is just too damn hard admitting that you've lost the argument (or that you are wrong) and make peace with whatever is left. Instead he cuts up people's post in small managable pieces, that do not not reflect what was being said, and then add a little vid and mocking emoticon...
Oh well it is still rather obvious to anyone with eyes. It is certainly not the way to garner any sympathy for oneself.