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Posted: February 08 2019 at 08:29
It will be interesting to see how much further trump's approval ratings will drop after small business owner's like my self discover that his tax hike has taken away some business expense deductions that we had grown accustomed to.
The taxes on my business are going up this year, but I suppose someone has to foot the bill for this country. It won't be an elitist like trump, he doesn't pay taxes like the rest of us.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 07:03
yeah.. we love our admins.. and they do have a tough job in large part to how boring it is. No thanks to those that needle them and generally push the edge of accepted forum decorum.... but they ain't as bad as they used to be when their PM boxes were filled with threatening messages from the admin team warning to cease and disist... oh I suspect they enjoyed the chaos as much as those that created it
for it is an appreciated job done mostly in the shadows... for in very large part the forum is extremely well behaved today and has been since it's glorious wild west days when the black hats routinely rode into town and blew away innocents and raped horses and rode the women folk.
today.. damn right it is a tough job...what are the poor admins to do...where is the fun in laying down the law and kicking ass....when even the wildest of the forum wild are generally well behaved and semi respectful.
Edited by micky - February 08 2019 at 07:05
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 06:24
micky wrote:
DamoXt7942 wrote:
No quarrel anymore. Sorry for my disturbance.
I did feel a disturbance in the force.. Darth Moderators..
I do feel for you moderators... it must be fun to get out the big stick and beat people over the head with it. Smartest thing the site ever did was never to promote me to admin.. but yes .. move along.. nothing to see or moderate here. Political threads besides are often self moderating...
I think the admins at this site do an excellent job. Its hard work and no pay, so we all should be grateful. Thank you Greg, Keishiro and George for all your hard work.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 05:59
can't not touch the kinder that set the thread aflame...
'liz warren .... get real man.. we elected a President who was known to be corrupt, unscrupulous, 'rich', completely unchristian haha, a f**king misoygnist, and populist in his rhetoric. Not to mention extremely unlikeable..
no one really cares about Elizabeth Warrens DNA or her claims on her ancestory.. well other than Trump and Trump voter and they ain't voting for her anyway... and what will or will not win her the nomination is her economic populist message and being a champion of it and going after the rich and big business/banks long before any of the current field embraced it. That is a powerful message and her DNA/heritage will be long forgotten by the time the campaign gets full swing.. and even if raised.. as it will during the campaign. The American voter showed without doubt in 2016 that it is the message, not the messenger that matters...
Edited by micky - February 08 2019 at 06:00
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 05:39
DamoXt7942 wrote:
No quarrel anymore. Sorry for my disturbance.
I did feel a disturbance in the force.. Darth Moderators..
I do feel for you moderators... it must be fun to get out the big stick and beat people over the head with it. Smartest thing the site ever did was never to promote me to admin.. but yes .. move along.. nothing to see or moderate here. Political threads besides are often self moderating...
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 05:35
loving the Senate map for 2020.. beginning to see the pros coming out with their 2020 crystal balls and not surprisingly they mirror my 2020 crystal ball. only one Democrat in danger.. upwards of 6 or 7 Repubicans are and in a potential landslide election with an extremely unpopular President at the top of the ticket, and motivating the get out to vote, but also in an indirect way the 2nd most most unpopular figure in our Government. Mitch McConnell. His reaction to the national election day holiday was both telling and completely transparent. It is the in the Republican interest to have as few vote as possible.
while the Republicans made repeal of Obamacare their first priority when handed the keys of power and 3 branches. I can foresee that new national holiday being one of the first things to come out of the Democratic controlled government in 2021. That .. and oh... take that McConnell and playing power politics. The granting of statehood to Puerto Rico and perhaps a final end to the crime that that is the no representation in Congress that is the District of Columbia. All of course.. being solid Democratic strongholds. Power partisan politics as practiced by McConnell is a double edged sword and it about time the Democrats swing it.
Edited by micky - February 08 2019 at 05:41
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 05:15
and speaking of digging up old posts... yeah.. patting myself on the back. SteveG ..whereever you are brother.. it is as I expected and suspected. That conservative majority on the SCOTUS is not as ironclad as most thought it potentially was. As I suspected we just saw the coming out of the leftward shift of Roberts and thus a potential swing vote (4-4-1) rather than a reliable solid 5-4 conservative majority which would torch past decisions. He has long expressed fear and trepidation about the politicization of that body, Kavanaugh being the last straw who should have never been elevated, and think he will do much to keep the Court out of hot topic issues that the Christian Right expects and demands.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 05:04
well this has been an interesting week... let's start with the freakshow that has been Virginia
looks like Northam will survive this, in large part to two things. It seems that many older Virginians, probably most older southerners in general haha, have these particular skeletons in their closet. It wasn't just him, but the state attorney General and I guess it came out yesterday that the Repubican Senate majority leader here has the same issue in a past yearbook. Knocking out a single one is one thing, knocking out most of an entire body of population.. quite another. The shear scale might keep this from being a disqualifying black mark, perhaps taking this to where it reasonable should. What have you done with your life and your poltics in the here and now. Speaking of that...
surprisingly the real basis of his survival is the support of the black community here in Virginia. They understand he has been a champion of the black community and obviously grew in his actions and attitudes since his 20's. It is funny that most calling for him to resign are white, and his biggest support group for staying are black. It is a funny place to be, yet in a way, a damn good one. It sure as hell beats having whites defend him and blacks want him out. Ie.. good to see that whites recognize that behavior like that is unacceptable.. not in terms of the older set who did this 30 or more years ago.. but the future leaders of tomorrow. If that is what is called progress, and I think it is, I can live with that.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 04:46
^ in my internet experiences Greg in most 'adult' forums moderators (wearing their hats) stay the hell out of political forums. One enters and posts at their own risk to hurt feelings and stepping out of their political bubbles and echo chambers and hearing things they might not like to hear. David () brought up a good point. Things easily and easily tossed off on the internet can easily lead you to being left bleeding and bruised in real life. That is actually an important lesson for some to consider...
Unlike music or whatever general topic the forum might normally be about politics is real life and about issues and matters that often do have direct effect or bring up past experiences and can get quite heated. And often ones political views and how they represent themselves speak to who they are as a person unlike a topic talking about your favorite Genesis album used for curing insomnia man.
this thread has and will surely remain remarkably civil. There are those out there in Internet land that get extremely vicious and personal.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 01:54
My experience mostly comes from other sites, and, frankly, from reading the abominable Twitter where nuance becomes harder due to the limitations and opinion often seems far too polarised (one too rarely finds a synthesis of ideas there in the "debates", if one can call them such). That said, I'm not the news junkie I used to be, and I'd have to start following the issues more closely to be able to participate in a way that brings significant value to the discussions. I have occasionally posted here when I've noticed an issue of particular interest to me that I feel I have a perspective to bring to the table that might be of interest and generate discussion (I do like delving deep into controversial topics).
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Posted: February 08 2019 at 01:27
If you actually do look back, I think you'll find that apart from the occasional slip-up, this has always been a civil thread and has lead to some interesting discussions.
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Posted: February 07 2019 at 23:15
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus from Matthew). I'm a soft atheist cultural Christian cum quasi Buddhist with pacifistic leanings). And I do get how tempers can run high, or in my case it gets extremely frustrating and saddening, when you can't have an honest, respectful good faith discussion with someone (all too common when people come with an agenda and are didactic rather than open-minded). I've been very lucky in my life that I've never needed or felt the need to resort to violence, by the way (I have had a sheltered, unadventurous life living in low crime areas) but we all have our problems aside from immediate circumstances -- I have chronic depression and an anxiety disorder for instance, many on forums suffer from depression and anxiety (and I can be a royal b*****d as my wife would attest if she were not so kind. I think we all forget sometimes that people are going through hard times and we should try to be more forgiving and compassionate often because we don't really know that person's psychology or what they are going through. Tolerance of course must have its limits and I am a cynical person by nature. It's too easy to draw the wrong assumptions and to assign the wrong intent (the principle of charity, ideally, should be in play when in discussion).
Again, I really am sorry to hear about your mother, David.
By the way, while I have enjoyed many a debate on politics over the years, and I do feel passionately about many issues, I tend to avoid politics threads since it too often does devolve into ad hominems, hurt feelings, arrogance, tribalism, belicosity, and petty point scoring rather than open-minded, respectful dialectic between fellow truth seekers. I am a great believer in talking things out but that requires active, rational, thoughtful listeners with generally nuanced perspectives. I tend to avoid discussion with those whom I feel lack those qualities as discussion will not be productive. It's not a good time to post or react , generally speaking, when one is angry or highly-strung as it does affect our ability to think and react rationally. Anger can be a beneficial trait when properly harnessed (Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry -- Dr. Banner).
Edited by Logan - February 08 2019 at 00:45
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Posted: February 07 2019 at 22:15
^^ I was asking in good faith without looking back on the thread (my daughter is at me for control of the computer now). I'm avoiding assumptions, and not apportioning specific blame. Things got very heated obviously.
I'm sorry to hear that David, all I felt I needed to do was ask at this time.
Edited by Logan - February 07 2019 at 22:17
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Posted: February 07 2019 at 22:13
Greg, I am someone who feels anger is quite healthy and normal, and I will aggressively be myself as I always have been. Now, my mother passed away yesterday and perhaps that is impacting my conduct, but frankly I don't think so. I am a fighter and a real bast*rd, and an unlikely to take a voluntary break from this godforsaken, wonderful place.
Do what you need to do.
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yeah.. we love our admins.. and they do have a tough job in large part to how boring it is. No thanks to those that needle them and generally push the edge of accepted forum decorum.... but they ain't as bad as they used to be when their PM boxes were filled with threatening messages from the admin team warning to cease and disist... oh I suspect they enjoyed the chaos as much as those that created it
) brought up a good point. Things easily and easily tossed off on the internet can easily lead you to being left bleeding and bruised in real life. That is actually an important lesson for some to consider... 
