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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2019 at 06:57
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

One needs 40 points to create polls in the usual way here (with poll options that one can vote for).

My bad, I completely missed that small detail...nevermind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2019 at 03:37
Somehow for me personally these albums have always felt very different from each other but my impression today is that they have more in common than I had realized.
LTIA - excellent album with lots to discover. Feels a bit cold and intellectual at times, and the mix is uneven.
Red - uses some of the best elements of LTIA in more direct and condensed form. This always had more appeal to me, but LTIA is catching up these days. Still vote for Red.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2019 at 02:27
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Red is excellent but Larks is top 5 all-time for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 19:11
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Definitely red, Larks is a bit too jammy for me at times, both great albums

I find larks more to my liking but both are great albums and there is no wrong answer. 

That said one my biggest problems with red is the repetitiousness of the title track. That main riff just goes on and on and even after the cello part it comes back and just does the same thing over and over again. It would have been a great three or four minute track at the most but at over six minutes it's a bit much with too little variation(I have the same issue with cry baby cry by the Beatles). Also, the improv piece Providence isn't bad but it's still an improv piece which means it just sort of meanders with no real direction. I prefer the one on S&BB. Finally, I don't like how "starless" winds up. It's an intense tune with some great playing but towards the end it gets too chaotic(and even jammy) and just kind of loses me. So for me LTIA is more consistent with no real flaws. It is a crazy album though which is what I like about it. I do think both albums(and also S&BB)are real classics though and probably KC's best period just slightly above the disjointed lineup on the first two albums. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 18:44
Definitely red, Larks is a bit too jammy for me at times, both great albums
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zawesomekid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:20
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Where's the poll? Lol.

Anyway, both are great but I vote for Larks tongues in aspic. 

I don't have enough points to make an actual poll.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:15
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

A rather close call. Both albums have some ups and downs. One more Red vote anyway.

No downs at all on LTIA imo. All tracks are brilliant even book of Saturday.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:13
Where's the poll? Lol.

Anyway, both are great but I vote for Larks tongues in aspic. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 15:53
I'd vote LTIA.  I also prefer Starless & Bible Black to Red, but they are all excellent.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DarkTower Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 15:29
Red is my choice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:50
A rather close call. Both albums have some ups and downs. One more Red vote anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:37
I don't understand the appeal of Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Although it does have its moments, overall I find the album to be quite uninteresting. By contrast, I quite like Red, so it gets my vote without hesitation.
 
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zawesomekid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:13
Thank you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:10
Originally posted by zawesomekid zawesomekid wrote:

Also, how can I run a poll correctly? Since I am new here.



Keep posting until you reach 40 points, then you should see the option to create polls and vote for poll options. It was set up this way because we had abuse.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zawesomekid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:06
I personally vote for "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" because each song is more complete, in "Red" one song doesn't fell complete "One More Red Nightmare" because the climax feels close but it just stops which is very disappointing in my opinion, other than that, excellent song. I would say that "Red" is more cohesive as an album though since the tension is shown in 4 ways building up to "Starless" which is the best King Crimson song unlike "Larks' Tongues in Aspic"; moreover, it's not as cohesive as "Red" but also is cohesive somewhat in its own way unlike "Red", so it is extremely hard to chose a winner, so I'd accept any opinion on which is better.

Edited by zawesomekid - September 07 2019 at 14:59
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