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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2020 at 20:28
I still don't know how Peart had just two hands.

Or two feet.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

^I remember that "red" book. It's called Rush: Visions.

Rush indeed got off to a rocky start. Things changed when one day a deejay flipped the record and played the B-side, called "Working Man."

Yeah, that's the one. It was written by "the B Man" who apparently later had a falling out with the band unfortunately. 

Actually there was no record flipping involved. No, the story I heard was that Donna Halper who was the dj(and music director) at a rock station in Cleveland caled wmms was looking for a "bathroom song" and came across "working man" which was the longest track on the album. She played it and knew it would go down well in Cleveland which was very working class. This was documented in the Beyond the lighted stage dvd. Historically some djs have been known to flip records and have the b side become a "hit" but that wasn't the case here. While there were two singles released from that first album neither of those singles had "working man" as a b side so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Like I said it was an album track that was chosen as a bathroom break song because of it's length. Then people started calling in asking about the new Led Zeppelin song! Lol. Tongue


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2020 at 19:07
^I remember that "red" book. It's called Rush: Visions.

Rush indeed got off to a rocky start. Things changed when one day a deejay flipped the record and played the B-side, called "Working Man."
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

So when did Rush start to headline shows and stop becoming a support act? Also, does anyone know if any Rush songs were played regularly on the radio(or at all for that matter)before the Permanent Waves album?

It depends what you mean by "headline shows". There are dates before the release of Rush debut where they played venues as the only act. Sure a lot of them were HS gyms and church basements, but all bands started this way.
I remember hearing Working Man but not knowing who the band was, and later on realizing it was Rush. Anthem and Fly By Night I also remembering hearing on KMET 94.7FM "The Mighty Met", in Los Angeles, KMET was a pioneer of playing progressive rock in LA, that's where I first heard Genesis also....This was around '76 I remember, that's about the time I started getting into Rush.

I was referring to headline shows as in a larger crowd(say over 200)not counting bars or small clubs and where they would have someone supporting them as opposed to the other way around. 

As for hearing fly by night and anthem did you hear them before or after 2112 was released? Just wondering. I remember reading in a rush biography(the red book if you remember that one)where the guy said they struggled to get on the radio in the early days.
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^KMET 94.7! I didn't know you were from SoCal!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2020 at 16:11
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

So when did Rush start to headline shows and stop becoming a support act? Also, does anyone know if any Rush songs were played regularly on the radio(or at all for that matter)before the Permanent Waves album?

It depends what you mean by "headline shows". There are dates before the release of Rush debut where they played venues as the only act. Sure a lot of them were HS gyms and church basements, but all bands started this way.
I remember hearing Working Man but not knowing who the band was, and later on realizing it was Rush. Anthem and Fly By Night I also remembering hearing on KMET 94.7FM "The Mighty Met", in Los Angeles, KMET was a pioneer of playing progressive rock in LA, that's where I first heard Genesis also....This was around '76 I remember, that's about the time I started getting into Rush.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ruby900 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2020 at 15:10
It has taken me years for the 'penny' to drop with me and Rush. 

I had a friend at University who was a fanatic. I got 2112 and struggled with it initially. He had told me that as I as was a fan of Yes, Crimson and classic Rock (Sabbath, Purple and Zeppelin) that I would love them - but I just didn't. Then I gave Hemispheres a go and that did strike a chord - I loved it. But still I as I listened to more, I didn't love them like I did Yes, Floyd, Genesis etc.

Then fast forward to the news of Neil's passing and they have all of a sudden theu make complete and utter sense. I cannot work out work out what has happened in order for me to suddenly love them - but I do. I am so frustrated it has taken nearly 30 years and as such I missed the chance to see them live. But I guess, better late than never!

My current faves;

Hemishpeheres, 
A farewell to Kings
2112
Waves
Pictures

Looking forward to getting to hear the rest of their albums. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 23:32
Really hard to find strict information about support act from internet, but what I remembered from their book, it was quite soon after 2112 become commercial success. Naturally there were then support acts for them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 17:05
So when did Rush start to headline shows and stop becoming a support act? Also, does anyone know if any Rush songs were played regularly on the radio(or at all for that matter)before the Permanent Waves album?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polo's Lair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 16:52
I feel like I grew up with Rush, Buying all their albums, keeping up with their news etc... I feel that I more than appreciate them, but feel like they are close friends or relatives. I'm sure many feel the same. So when something happens to someone that is a close friend or relative, it affects you in a way that is hard to explain.


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Sonuva...I'll have to check it. I hope the damage$ aren't too extreme.

Nah....My daughter got it off the Rush website but I think they are out now.........I've seen it on Amazon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 13:30
Sonuva...I'll have to check it. I hope the damage$ aren't too extreme.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

C10, is that book loaded with ads for the shows?

Yes.....I am at the 2112 period right now. Up to that point there are many pics of posters and tickets from various shows.
I don't recall a tour book that is more comprehensive than this one, with notes on many of the dates.....the early shows and comments are really interesting read.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 12:33
C10, is that book loaded with ads for the shows?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 11:06
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:


Did Rush ever play this live?



They did Scott, early in career........here are pics from the tour history book that just came out, my daughter gave it to me for Christmas, excellent book! This was on the CoS tour.




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Did Rush ever play this live?




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Skywatcher72 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2020 at 06:02
Hi, new here and have lurked for years to be honest but the loss of Neil has brought me out of the woodwork.

Not sure why his death has hit me quite so hard. I guess its because that this music we love speaks to us so personally. Usually we don't share our taste with family members or even close friends and the only time we get to be with others that are so passionate are at gigs.
In the main, its a one to one relationship. These pieces have sustained us during our darkest hours, or during our greatest triumphs and as such we share a close personal affection for the people who created them.

To be honest I just wanted to stand with some other Rush fans who understood
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2020 at 17:12
I do like Rush well enough, though I didn't plan on getting their whole discography... only their 70's classics (up to Moving Pictures, actually) and one or 2 later live albums to complete... however, once I had those, they released Clockwork Angels, and I ended up getting it, and then they had a box set with their studio albums from the 80's, after Moving Pictures, at a very good price and I just had to get it... and some months later they had the next box set with the rest of the albums (except Clockwork Angels which I already had), again at a very good price, and so I ended up with all their albums (except for the very first). Now I only have to get some more live albums, since the ones I have already got sound very nice, and mostly I like better how they sound live than studio.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2020 at 17:00
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Everyone was influenced by Eddie, but the only one who can say how & when he influenced Alex Lifeson is Alex Lifeson.


True, but I seriously doubt that intro to spirit of radio would have happened the way it did without that first VH album. We all have our opinions but I'm not budging on that and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Like I said I never thought of it until I read it but again the site isn't loading otherwise I would share it here.

I did find this though where he mentions Eddie as a general influence. http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/19960900guitarone.htm


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2020 at 16:58
Ok, I did find it but it won't upload for some reason. I'll try again later.


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