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1980s' other Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog? |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65844 |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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I know, true dinosaur albums and Neo-Prog.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30268 |
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A lot of my 80's listening was electronic and new age stuff and out of it came this symphonic gem:
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea Stephen actually re-recorded this album a few years ago where he created an 'orchestra' by using sampling techniques for every individual instrument. I would position this somewhere near Rob Reed's recent instrumental series of albums Sanctuary but I feel its more cohesive. That along with Enya's Watermark and Clair Hamills Voices are favourites of mine. I also like what Mark Isham was doing a lot at the time. Could also mention Suzanne Cianni's album Neverland and also the very talented Patrick O'Hearn was doing some great stuff at the time. Nearly forgot Eddie Jobson's Theme Of Secrets. It was a stromng decade for instrumental music when you factor in Jean Michela Jarre, Vangelis and of course Tangerine Dream. Plenty of creativity going on which is all that matters.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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Avant Prog, RIO and Zeuhl are the three genres I generally avoid.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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When talking about quality and characteristics, one can wonder how much of the '80s Progressive Rock can be comparable to the classic one from the '70s. I think that can at least be said about Avant-Prog, RIO and Zeuhl, which, again according to RYM's informations, amounted to about 20% of all the releases in the '80s. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/avant-prog/ ) There was surely also quite a bit of other albums, for instance some of those on my list.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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thanks
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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No, only for 1982.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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It looks to me, you're planning to list Neo-Prog albums for each year.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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Why would you object to me giving the late great Geoff Mann & Twelfth Night a brief mention?
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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One could wonder how big a difference there was between the '70s and the '80s when talking about quantity. Well, according to RYM, the '70s had 360-520 releases each year while this amounts to 170-360 for the '80s. Only about 10% of the '80s releases was by Neo-Prog. https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/ https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/neo-prog/ |
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Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors 14 Art Zoyd - Generation Sans Futur Eskaton - 4 Visions Shub-Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor 13 Art Zoyd - Phase IV Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade Cardiacs - A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun Present - Triskaidekaphobie This Heat - Deceit Univers Zero - Uzed |
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Hmm.. are there any non-Japanese late 80's (1987-1989) ELP style albums? I've already checked out the Japanese ones so that's why I'm being so specific. There's a couple of Early 80s ones but I have no idea if this type of music carried on later outside of Japan.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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Paul, please respect the OP.
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I'm not sure I can accommodate the dismissal of J-R Fusion, Avant/RIO, Zeuhl, and Prog Metal music and bands from people's consideration of that which is progressive rock music: it's all one and the same to me. Heck! Even a lot of the experimental pop, New Wave, and techno-pop in the 80s always felt "progressive" to me (and it was certainly still rock 'n' roll). Thus, I find it sad and narrow-minded to not include artists like Pat Metheny, Univers Zero, Swans, Shub-Niggurath, Klaus Schulze, Allan Holdsworth, Earthworks, David Sylvian, XTC, Ozric Tentacles, Queensr˙che, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Brian Eno, Jon Hassell, and even The Fixx in a discussion thread like this.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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1982: another significant year for nascent Neo Prog which saw the release of the first two studio albums and they were both by the same band: Twelfth Night!
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Here's some stuff:
1980: Chac Mool - Nadie en especial Peter Gabriel - Melt Genesis - Duke Noa - Noa Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi Present - Triskaďdékaphobie Rush - Permanent Waves Mark Shreeve - Embryo Trilogy - Here It Is Yes - Drama 1981: Art Bears - The World as It Is Today East - Játékok ELO - Time Genesis - Abacab King Crimson - Discipline Lethe - Lethe Rush - Moving Pictures This Heat - Deceit 1982: Anyone's Daughter - In Blau Bi Kyo Ran - Bi Kyo Ran East - Hűség Eloy - Time to Turn Peter Gabriel - Security Rush - Signals The Work - Slow Crimes Zarathustra - Also spielt 1983: Bacamarte - Depois do Fim Iconoclasta - Iconoclasta Planet P Project - Planet P Project Waniyetula - A Dream Within a Dream 1984: East - Az áldozat (Szodoma) Het - Let's Het King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair News From Babel - Work Resumed on the Tower Rush - Grace Under Pressure Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák Scott Walker - Climate of Hunter Zaragon - No Return 1985: Differences - The Voyage Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias Present - Le poison qui rend fou Rush - Power Windows Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound 1986: Emerson Lake & Powell - Emerson Lake & Powell News From Babel - Letters Home 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream Outer Limits - The Scene of Pale Blue 1988: Deja-Vu - Baroque in the Future Vangelis - Direct 1989: Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent Social Tension - Macbethia Thinking Plague - In This Life The Work - Rubber Cage Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon (recorded in 1976 but not released until 1989)
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Rush - Moving Pictures
The Dregs - Unsung Heroes Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U. Pat Metheny Group - Offramp Chick Corea Elektric Band - Light Years Zappa - You Are What You Is King Crimson - Discipline Genesis - Duke Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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1981: a momentous year for Neo Prog when the very first album Arrived Alive from Scottish band Pallas.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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So I maybe better say now, take it easy. ![]() Edited by David_D - October 24 2023 at 05:48 |
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