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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53641 |
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Maybe you could upgrade your brain to a positronic one like Data has? He can listen to 150 compositions at the same time (that would be 1500 albums a day!). But if you're concerned about analyzing the aesthetics of the music, Data recommends listening to 10 or less compositions simultaneously (which is no slouch at 100 albums a day).
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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Yes, that's exactly right, bearing in mind I listen to at least ten albums a day, I must have listened to at least two thousand albums since I last listened to Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias.
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Just my opinion but i find "classic" refers to the period where prog was most popular, most productive and most innovative. Great prog has been created ever since but never as a huge explosion of activity as in the years from 1969 - 1974. I surmise "classic" refers to an era as a whole and not the quality of music from individual artists that followed. Prog was new then so the WOW factor made it unlike anything else. Now nothing is really a surprise no matter how enjoyable.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15800 |
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Could it have something to do with the way you're listening to(o) many albums?
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Unfortunately, I'm unable to reminisce about Iconoclasta's Reminiscencias as I can't remember what it sounds like and I can barely remember how to spell it either.
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I don't like either of those albums. The Three album is especially depressingly bad given the talent involved. Emeson,Lake and Powell was a better try although the line up never gelled for me and I would have much preferred Simon Phillips on the drum stool in the absence of Palmer. Not to say that Cozy wasn't a great drummer but he was more in the hard rock school of drumming. Stargazer is amazing! Phillips would have brought more to the table imo.
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The only band I can think of that bucked the trend was Eloy but that's very much a personal opinion. I enjoy Colours through to Time To Turn more than Dawn through to Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes. That said they are all good. Most classic seventies prog bands either lost the plot in the 80's or redefined their style. Eloy only made very slight modifications although even then the long form tracks disappeared and they eventually gave into the eighties with the not so good album Performance. |
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3 - ...to the power of three (1988) Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - S/T (1989) Edited by JD - October 25 2023 at 15:38 |
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One thing is sure, the classic era of Progressive Rock ended in the second half of the '70s.
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Classic and modern prog for me has always been divided by the before and after timeline of 1979/1980. That's how it was organised on my long-since-defunct music site where there were just two prog genres, with prog artists from 1967 to 1979 being listed under "Classic Prog" and all prog artists who came into being from 1980 onwards being listed under the sweeping generalisation of "Neo Prog", where "Neo" just means "New" or "Modern".
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Something else, I've been wondered about, is whether any of the '80s Prog can be called "classic" - for instance, I can't see any difference between Halloween's Part One and the '70s Prog. Or is the term "classic" only proper to use about the '70s Prog? - which I'm most into.
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Thank you for all the nice contributions to this thread so far, and not least from Progaardvark, Paul and siLLy puPPy. Edited by David_D - October 25 2023 at 04:56 |
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^Yes, some of that is prog!
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The 80s were great. I love neo-prog but also all the cool avant-prog and zeuhl but there was a lot of great prog especially from nations playing catch up Only listing artists with great prog albums in the 80s King Crimson Rush Los Jaivas Eskaton Seru Giran Carciacs Camberwell Now This Heat Bacamarte Congreso Dün SBB Alan Parsons Project Kultivator Present Solaris Zamla Mammaz Manna The Raincoats Univers Zero Ring Aqsak Maboul Shub-Niggurath Asia Minor Thinking Plague Kenso Prazsky Vyber Art Zoyd Eloy Hawkwind Devil Doll Saga Arrigo Barnabe Robert Wyatt Eider STellaire Fred Frith Hardal Peter Hammill Super Freego Fulano Phish Rahmann Art Bears Picchio dal Pozzo Von Zamla Cai Yes P.L.J. band The Blue Effekt News From Babel Alas Etron Fou Leloubian Mr Sirius Skeleton Crew Ruins Allan Holdsworth Mike Oldfield Cassiber Debile Menthol Horizont Itoiz Eduard Artemyev Begnagrad Ain Soph When Het Igra Staklenih Perli Stormy Six L'Ensemble Raye Steve Hackett Hellebore After Dinner AMenophis East Orthotonics Camel Birdsongs of the Mesozoic Miriodor Sky Dixie Dregs Nazca Confusional Quartet Djam Karet Ur Kaos David Thomas Stromboli The Muffins Decibel Nuova Era Banda Elastica Terpandre Agnus Exodus Dragonfly Scapa Flow Planet P Project Tasbletom The Enid Jethro Tull Asia i could go on but you get the point! |
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