1980s' other Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog?

cstack3 wrote: David_D wrote: cstack3 wrote: I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!   The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime.  I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well!  It doesn't look Prog to me, either.   Compared to what, exactly?  Did you listen to Fripp's guitar work in any of those clips?

^ I suggest not getting too hung up about it. I've thought about revising that, which was written back in 2005, for a long time. It was agreed on before 2010 that not every band/artist mentioned in the Prog forums need be included in PA, but that the emphasis should be on ones that have been deemed Prog by the site. I think most recognise that being included in PA does not make an act or album Prog, and not being in PA does not mean that it is not. It is there partially to make things simpler for moderators because a lot of stuff IS put in the wrong forum, and then moving lots of topics is a hassle, and we don't always have time to check or know if something is Prog, or argue the case. While it may have been determined that common sense is not as common as once thought, nor as sensible perhaps, the general idea of to trying to use it is advisable, and a little compromise can make people generally happier.

That said, you can set the rules of your threads as you wish (within the general expectations of what is proper at PA), and I will deal with ones often that break certain rules (abuse), but one only has much control over ones own topics often or the people who post there. A thread you start does not belong to you and I think it helps to focus on that which you appreciate more than that which you don't (hopefully one would not wish to come across as the complaining type, better to be easy-going methinks). One suggestion I might like to add to the rules is, in different words, "Try to not to get too anal about things, and most of all, have fun!"

On a personal note, I tend to think of albums and songs as Prog more so than acts themselves per se as many acts will play a range of styles. Of course not being ale to tag albums is limitation of this site.

Have you tried the Progressive Ears board? I just wonder if it might satisfy you more.

And actually, I don't consider that Tears for Fears album to be Prog, but a kind of art pop-rock.

Maybe I'll present a list here of albums that I deem Progressive Rock enough after I have done the 80-84 part of my topic series. There will be Swans' Children of God, various Art Zoyd and Cardiacs albums, various RIO, Codona, Thinking Plague, This Heat etc. etc. I love the 80s, especially if one is not limited to Prog, but then I really love every decade from the 60s up and so none are weak for me. I think I become more of a "glass half full" kind of guy the older I get.

Tears For Fears were 'Art rock' but then so was Kate Bush. Both were equally important and both were a massive respite from so much dismal over produced 80's shyte from artists with zero talent. 

David_D wrote: cstack3 wrote: I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!   The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime.  I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well!  It doesn't look Prog to me, either.

Sean Trane wrote: I know there is a "conspiracy"  on PA to rehabilitate the 80's as a normal (good) decade, by seeing the amount of 80's polls series in the last two years of the forum, but the 80's still sucked because of its second half. Of course, the weak start (81 to 85) didn't help either.

Edited by David_D - October 29 2023 at 13:10

The Police were actually close to becoming a prog band in my eyes when they stopped (perhaps thats the reason!). Andy Summers (ex Soft Machine) and Stewart Copeland (ex Curved Air) had already touched on the genre outside of this band. Shame they didn't continue although Sting did a crossover jazz fusion album Bring On The Night which is quite fun. IMO!

Reissues are again required for both Fripp/Summers albums!

Did anyone mention Bob Fripp's amazing League of Gentlemen? 

Psychedelic Paul wrote: There was plenty of good music around in the late-1980's. We just didn't know where to find it without the Internet.  For instance, out of that 1989 albums list above, the only three albums I knew of before joining ProgArchives were by Kate Bush, Tears for Fears & Vangelis.