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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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This is a scary OP and theme for me. It feels like we're saying that bands/folks can not change with the times and their music, and do something they want, rather than have to "sound" like they did the previous album, as it seems to be the issue here ... wanting the band to sound "the same".
I definitely don't mean it like that! King Crimson and David Bowie are some of my favorite musicians and they change more than almost anyone! Honestly I'd much rather listen to King Crimson in the 90s or 2000s then any band who tried to stick to the same sound.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I don't know about biggest, but to go with two albums I love in PA, I think that Radiohead's OK Computer to Kid A was a significant shift.


agreed but also The Bends to OK Computer took a major leap from Alt rock to Art rock. Kid A always seemed to me a reaction to the music press calling them 'prog' after OK Computer.


Indeed, and I actually thought of that when writing the above post, but then thought that maybe The Bends would be better thought of as more of a transitional album between Pablo Honey (an often underrated album to me, by the way) and OK Computer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2025 at 08:35
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

This is a scary OP and theme for me. It feels like we're saying that bands/folks can not change with the times and their music, and do something they want, rather than have to "sound" like they did the previous album, as it seems to be the issue here ... wanting the band to sound "the same".

The OP does not condemn anything or anyone. 

Sometimes bands/artists change their sound, for the better or worse (they create something that is poorly received by their audience, sell-out or go with a trend, or more often than not create something uninspired). 
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King Crimson have been specialists (Fripp at least has) in gestaltic changes: Islands, LTIA, Discipline, and counting.
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Hi,

This is a scary OP and theme for me. It feels like we're saying that bands/folks can not change with the times and their music, and do something they want, rather than have to "sound" like they did the previous album, as it seems to be the issue here ... wanting the band to sound "the same".

For me, it's like we have ignored the history of the arts in the 20th century where CHANGES is what it was all about, be it because of a war, or simply a reactionary thing. And here we are, as if we do not allow a band to create something different ... because it isn't our preferred mode or idea.

No one has suggested that, as far as I can tell, which is easier to handle, but, again, I really think that an artist needs the freedom to do what they are capable of doing, and that means that changing, should be allowed ... and expected!

Many of the bands listed changed, and I consider many of them good changes, although I did not specifically think one band changed for the better or the worse, though I think that Hawkwind going back to the better known writer, took away a lot of really nice things that the band had been doing, and ASAM is a fantastic album, with the 2 very special long cuts on side 1 of the album. And breaking it all "back" seemed strange and I did not exactly think their next album was better ... to my ears, it sort of became very cartoonish all of a sudden, and Hawkwind, was NOT a cartoon band for me. So, yeah, that change was nuts.

Other changes were more natural ... GONG is an example, and perhaps looking for a new identity. Mike Oldfield, was probably under the need to get an album that sold, as if Incantations was too big and not something fans loved ... I, personally, think its one of his best albums.

PF is not much of a change. Animals was vastly different from how the band had been playing the 2 pieces from "Animals" which showed that RW was now in control, and changed the pieces into something else. Previously "You Gotta Be Crazy" was a very "space rock" thing, but folks here seem to appreciate the redo, and not the original. The redo was very obvious a RW thing! Both Mahavishnu and RtF had what I consider natural changes. Steve Hillage's changes were tough for me, as I liked his previous albums and excellent rock music, but it was obvious that he was changing to something else.

Again, other than PF, I kinda think that most changes were just fine for me, though I had already fallen off MO, for example, at the time, and I really didn't care for what Hawkwind did for years, until Electric Tepee when they became an Ambient Acid Rock band, and that album had the appeal and attack that Space Ritual did some 20 years before ... but sadly it is not heard, and it really makes "metal" sound like crap! It is that hard, and their next album had excellent things as well, as they extended the ambient thing. But the continuous redoing and re-releases of a lot of their early stuff, kinda ended Hawkwind for me. The Moody Blues I had already fallen out of it, before I even got to European stuff in 1972 ... the band had become a joke, and it wasn't neat poetry anymore, it was about being hip and cool now, and the music lost a lot of its meaning for me. Steve Hackett was a come down, in my book after the first album, as soon as he figured out that some fans wanted songs ... ciao baby ... there was better music all over Europe!


Edited by moshkito - April 09 2025 at 08:21
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From Moving Pictures to Signals. A huge shift in sound with the synths dominating on Signals. And this was personal for me. Signals was so different, I just couldn't get into it back then, but taking a break from it and then returning for round two at least allowed me to appreciate it for what it is. I started to like the songs. And it grew from there.
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Brain Salad Surgery to Works Volume One

Electronic  to mainly acoustic/orchestral sound excepting Fanfare For The Common Man which apparently was only put on the album due to record company pressure but that was still a bit oddball.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I don't know about biggest, but to go with two albums I love in PA, I think that Radiohead's OK Computer to Kid A was a significant shift.

agreed but also The Bends to OK Computer took a major leap from Alt rock to Art rock. Kid A always seemed to me a reaction to the music press calling them 'prog' after OK Computer.
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I've always been taken aback by the sound change of Richard Wright's major contribution on Wish You Were Here to becoming a backing accompanist on Animals.
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I always thought the transition from ELO (No Answer in the U.S.) to ELO 2 was a bit of a sound change. No doubt, a lot of that must have been Roy Wood's departure during the recording of the second one.

Present's La poison qui rend fou to C.O.D. Performance was a shift I didn't think much of. Glad they returned to form with Certitudes

And of course, there is Jethro Tull's Stormwatch to A and The Broadsword and the Beast to Under Wraps, and then to Crest of a Knave.

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Spooky Tooth - From Spooky Too to Ceremony - or from Blues Rock to Musique Concrete  (with Pierre Henry) - and both in the same year too. Confused

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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

The Dedalus debut album to their second album Materiale .... from absolutely brilliant jazz rock fusion to totally -totally avant guard silliness....
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Also, how about...

Yes: Keys to Ascension 1 and 2 (1996-1997) to Open Your Eyes (1997) ...?
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A few other examples worthy of mention...

Miles Davis: In a Silent Way (1969) to Bitches Brew (1970)
Gentle Giant: Interview (1976) to The Missing Piece (1977)
Gryphon: Raindance (1975) to Treason (1977)
Le Orme: Storia O Leggenda (1977) to Florian (1979)
Le Orme again: Piccola Rapsodia Dell'Ape (1980) to Venerdi (1982)
Renaissance: Illusion (1971) to Prologue (1972)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2025 at 11:09
The Dedalus debut album to their second album Materiale .... from absolutely brilliant jazz rock fusion to totally -totally avant guard silliness....
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Triumvirat - from Pompeii to  Ŕ La Carte... 

Oh yes. From snap to crap.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Vangelis: Earth to Heaven & Hell
Vangelis, every album compared to Invisible Connections (maybe Beaubourg is a bit closer)

agreed... I simply can't get my head around the minimalism of IC. Attempting to find a tonal connection between each note played causes both my brain cells to short circuit at the same time...  Wacko
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

No, Music for Supermarkets is unique amongst JMJ albums, but not in a good way. Confused

Many apologies.... I confess I had never even heard of this; it appears to be listed Fan Club/ Promo section. Well, you learn something new every day!
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In Camera to Nadir's Big Chance is another one that comes to mind. If we count Peter Hammill and VDGG together, then Nadir and Godbluff are worlds apart!
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