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Fragile is Superestimated? |
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ELPmasters ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2025 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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What do you think about this?
For me, Fragile is not this album like the people talk so much... Your best moments is Roundabout, South Side of The Sky and Heart of a Sunrise. The double Distance/Fish is better on Yessongs |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13338 |
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Superestimate
verb 1. (rare, nonstandard) Synonym of overestimate. Usage notes -- Mainly an error by non-native speakers, perhaps through confusion with e.g. Spanish sobrestimar. Overrated? Perhaps. I prefer the albums before and after Fragile. Both seem more cohesive. There are jarring songs thrown in just to be inclusive of all band members. Still, a very good album. |
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ThyroidGlands ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2023 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 390 |
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Yes (no pun intended)
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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TYA and Fragile are both equally great. I probably prefer Fragile by just a tiny bit though.
Top five Yes (or my opinion I should say): Relayer Close to the Edge Fragile The Yes Album Going for the One Just behind GFTO is Drama then Tales but all are great. And 90125 is a great pop rock album with prog elements but nothing more and nothing less. It's not on the same level as the others. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30068 |
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The interesting track for me is South Side Of The Sky which sounds like proto prog metal. Yes developed a harder edge on this album and that stood them in good stead to take over the mantle of the leading prog band ahead of ELP. Rick Wakeman is a massive figure in prog and can never be underestimated although they found the perfect replacement in Patrick Moraz when he left to purse a solo career before returning to the band for the classic GFTO album. TYA to GFTO is arguably the greatest and most important run of prog albums when the genre was riding high.
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Stanislaw Pwogowksy ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 4 hours 7 minutes ago Location: Potworów, PL Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Fragile has each member's solo tracks that sound dated. Instead of them, the Yes cover of "America" would likely have made Fragile their finest album. This way, it's like an EP.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30068 |
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^ they were leaving covers of other artists behind, needed to stand on their own 2 feet. Historical perspective over revisionism ie this or that album could have been better if the band had done this or not done this. Fragile was a success and nowadays we can make our own versions of these albums if there are tracks we don't like. BTW Selling England By The Pound is often considered Genesis finest work despite having a Phil solo track. I think with Fragile some of the solo pieces can act as a small breather or even a bridge/intro into the following track. Cans and Brahms is the only really annoying track for me, would happily have done without that and serves little purpose (but as we know Wakeman was cooking up a brilliant instrumental album of his own at the time and didn't want any of the good stuff to be used here, hence such a weak offering)
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No, I don't think it's overrated.
I can think of a couple other yes albums are overrated, but i don't want to upset anyone. ![]() ![]() |
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Stanislaw Pwogowksy ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 4 hours 7 minutes ago Location: Potworów, PL Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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