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    Posted: 16 hours 31 minutes ago at 16:26
What do you think about this?

For me, Fragile is not this album like the people talk so much... Your best moments is Roundabout, South Side of The Sky and Heart of a Sunrise. The double Distance/Fish is better on Yessongs
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Superestimate

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1. (rare, nonstandard) Synonym of overestimate.

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-- Mainly an error by non-native speakers, perhaps through confusion with e.g. Spanish sobrestimar.

Overrated? Perhaps. I prefer the albums before and after Fragile. Both seem more cohesive. There are jarring songs thrown in just to be inclusive of all band members. Still, a very good album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 hours 30 minutes ago at 20:27
TYA and Fragile are both equally great. I probably prefer Fragile by just a tiny bit though.

Top five Yes (or my opinion I should say):

Relayer
Close to the Edge
Fragile
The Yes Album
Going for the One

Just behind GFTO is Drama then Tales but all are great. And 90125 is a great pop rock album with prog elements but nothing more and nothing less. It's not on the same level as the others.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 hours 9 minutes ago at 21:48
The interesting track for me is South Side Of The Sky which sounds like proto prog metal. Yes developed a harder edge on this album and that stood them in good stead to take over the mantle of the leading prog band ahead of ELP. Rick Wakeman is a massive figure in prog and can never be underestimated although they found the perfect replacement in Patrick Moraz when he left to purse a solo career before returning to the band for the classic GFTO album. TYA to GFTO is arguably the greatest and most important run of prog albums when the genre was riding high.
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Fragile has each member's solo tracks that sound dated. Instead of them, the Yes cover of "America" ​​would likely have made Fragile their finest album. This way, it's like an EP.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 22 minutes ago at 03:35
^ they were leaving covers of other artists behind, needed to stand on their own 2 feet. Historical perspective over revisionism ie this or that album could have been better if the band had done this or not done this. Fragile was a success and nowadays we can make our own versions of these albums if there are tracks we don't like. BTW Selling England By The Pound is often considered Genesis finest work despite having a Phil solo track. I think with Fragile some of the solo pieces can act as a small breather or even a bridge/intro into the following track. Cans and Brahms is the only really annoying track for me, would happily have done without that and serves little purpose (but as we know Wakeman was cooking up a brilliant instrumental album of his own at the time and didn't want any of the good stuff to be used here, hence such a weak offering)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 11 minutes ago at 03:46
No, I don't think it's overrated.
I can think of a couple other Yes albums are overrated, but i don't want to upset anyone.

Edited by Cristi - 2 hours 7 minutes ago at 06:50
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ they were leaving covers of other artists behind, needed to stand on their own 2 feet.
Bah. Firstly, Fragile is Yes' fourth studio album; no one would have begrudged the band due to the inclusion of a cover that they regularly played at the concerts. Second, it's not an ordinary cover song, because Simon & Garfunkel's original version is 3:34 in length, while Yes's cover (the studio version that found its place on the Fragile 2003 CD reissue) is over 10 minutes long—a prog rock epic that sounds absolutely different than the original version.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 2 hours 11 minutes ago at 06:46
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No, I don't think it's overrated.
I can think of a couple other yes albums are overrated, but i don't want to upset anyone.


I'm a YES fan but it wouldn't offend me if you said Open Your Eyes was overrated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 49 minutes ago at 08:08
Fragile is rated just fine imo. None of the solo pieces have bothered me when I've listened to the album in full.
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