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    Posted: May 30 2025 at 20:38
I remember when Daevid Allen discussed a book he was writing ...this was most likely in 1976..possibly 77'? I remember him saying " It may take a long time to finish this book...because I've already written about a thousand pages and I haven't quite gotten to Flying Teapot yet."

Around the time of GOOD MORNING Daevid Allen was producing a more gentle sounding style of music...whereas Gong had become this kind of muscular type of band. The gymnastic style of playing on YOU was an indicator that Daevid Allen and Gong were moving in 2 separate directions.

On the Oslo show in 74' you can hear how it could have worked...if Allen had stayed. Daevid Allen performs a more gentle and spacey style ...Steve Hillage performs material that ended up on FISH RISING...Bill Bruford on drums ..A strange show!

Daevid Allen claimed he left Gong because he couldn't get on the stage. Gong had a routine of entering the stage 1×1 and playing the "OM RIFF" By the time he was expected to enter the stage he couldn't get through because there was an invisible rubber curtain that was preventing him. The rest of the band were on stage and had started with the "OM RIFF" and he just couldn't get through because there was an invisible force field that was preventing him...Thats actually how he left Gong because he couldn't get on the stage...
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Originally posted by Fercandio46 Fercandio46 wrote:

Gong has more branches than a family tree! It's not for nothing that it's nicknamed "family." My favorites are Angel's Egg and You. When I first heard them, I felt they were ahead of their time. I understood John Zorn and Naked City, which hadn't come out of nowhere. They have different dynamics, because while Angel's Egg develops with short, intertwined themes, You has long jams where they develop other moods. I love Allan Holdsworth, who would later appear, but I'm especially a fan of Steve Hillage, who, along with Didier Malherbe and the mystical madness of David Allen, gave their music an aura that I later missed. It's more or less like the difference between McLaughlin's first Mahavishnu Orchestra and the second lineup.


I saw the Apocalypse tour ...which was outstanding...however many hard-core supporters of Mahavishnu Orchestra were quite letdown in the 70s when the first incarnation disintegrated.

I discovered Gong in 1974 when I found YOU in a cut-out bin for $1.99. By that point in time I had to special order their back catalog as imports.

I ended up buying all solo projects and various Gong bands on LP throughout the years.

I liked Camembert Electrique but disliked Glastonbury Fayre 71' The performance felt a bit over the top and the Glastonbury Fayre album was interesting to look at ...but imo not thrilling to listen to.

In the 70s and 80s I met one person that collected Gong. It was rare to run across people that were fans of Gong. It wasn't a style of music to be widely accepted...therefore far from ever being commercially viable in the long term and was treated as such by the industry...as a band that was unheard or unwanted.

In the early 80s Daevid Allen walked into Third Street Jazz And Rock record shop on 3rd and Market St in Philadelphia...carrying boxes of Gong albums. He set them on the counter and said: "Here's my music"..."Please sell it"
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Gong has more branches than a family tree! It's not for nothing that it's nicknamed "family." My favorites are Angel's Egg and You. When I first heard them, I felt they were ahead of their time. I understood John Zorn and Naked City, which hadn't come out of nowhere. They have different dynamics, because while Angel's Egg develops with short, intertwined themes, You has long jams where they develop other moods. I love Allan Holdsworth, who would later appear, but I'm especially a fan of Steve Hillage, who, along with Didier Malherbe and the mystical madness of David Allen, gave their music an aura that I later missed. It's more or less like the difference between McLaughlin's first Mahavishnu Orchestra and the second lineup.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

^ Not had chance to see the current incarnation of Gong but I hear good reports.

Gong's new Space Rock album is one of their best ever, soaring to new orbital heights of ascendency. Thumbs Up
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^ Not had chance to see the current incarnation of Gong but I hear good reports.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

My Gong journey started with Camembert Electrique courtesy of Branson marketing the album for the price of a single (55p) back in 75.  Loved it.  I eventually got to see all the classic line up - listed when first seen:

Daevid Allen (Brixton Fridge with Gongmaison, 1991)
Gilli Smyth (Leeds Irish Centre, 1994)
Didier Malherbe (with Gongmaison above)
Tim Blake (Hawkwind, Leicester De Montfort, 1979)
Steve Hillage (Leicester University, 1978 plus Pip Pyle playing in National Health)
Mike Howlett (Manchester University, 2009)
Pierre Moerlen (Leicester University, 1979 - PMG line up: Benoit Moerlen, Hansford Rowe, Bon Lazoga and Francois Causse)

I haven't seen any Gong-related acts live and the only concert I've ever attended in Leicester was Rainbow at Granby Halls sometime in the early 1980's when Ritchie Blackmore somehow managed to get through an entire show without smashing up his guitar. Tongue
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My Gong journey started with Camembert Electrique courtesy of Branson marketing the album for the price of a single (55p) back in 75.  Loved it.  I eventually got to see all the classic line up - listed when first seen:

Daevid Allen (Brixton Fridge with Gongmaison, 1991)
Gilli Smyth (Leeds Irish Centre, 1994)
Didier Malherbe (with Gongmaison above)
Tim Blake (Hawkwind, Leicester De Montfort, 1979)
Steve Hillage (Leicester University, 1978 plus Pip Pyle playing in National Health)
Mike Howlett (Manchester University, 2009)
Pierre Moerlen (Leicester University, 1979 - PMG line up: Benoit Moerlen, Hansford Rowe, Bon Lazoga and Francois Causse)
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Also, Gong "Est Mort" 1977. https://youtu.be/DJVaOrHpQrM

Thanks. I'll add Gong Est Mort to the list. Vive La Gong! 


Gong - I've Been Stoned Before (although I didn't inhale) Smile
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Also, Gong "Est Mort" 1977. https://youtu.be/DJVaOrHpQrM
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Gong but not forgotten.....

4 stars 1971: Dashiell Hedayat & Gong - Obsolete - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6YBfvPTdMU

Dashiell Hedayat - Hey Mushroom, Will You Mush My Room? Smile
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4 stars 2023: Gong - Unending Ascending - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mA7TRk7vVBFZat5tMioV8YuhFqvO7_dtY

We've already put the clocks back an hour, but it's not too late for this stunning  song and video from Gong's brand new album. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Don't forget Gong Expresso - Decadence. Another album from the Gong family, released in 2017.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0DKWPEV9g9x3s-fFORE6v6vhwCiUmF5U&playnext=1&index=1

Thanks. I just added Gong Expresso to the long list on the previous page. I knew there'd be someone I'd missed out. Smile
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^No need for sorry. I just like to razz you for your tastes, sometimes.

It's thanks to You I remembered to include Allan Holdsworth in this blog. Thumbs Up
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Don't forget Gong Expresso - Decadence. Another album from the Gong family, released in 2017.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0DKWPEV9g9x3s-fFORE6v6vhwCiUmF5U&playnext=1&index=1
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^No need for sorry. I just like to razz you for your tastes, sometimes.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Damn, Paul. A lot of two and three star ratings for Holdsworth solo albums.
Sorry about that. My low star ratings are diminishing, just like Holdsworth's chord progressions. Tongue
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Damn, Paul. A lot of two and three star ratings for Holdsworth solo albums.
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GONG WITH THE WIND - From Downwind to Second Wind, the complete Gong Family Albums (in roughly chronological order). Smile


DAEVID ALLEN's GONG - The original Gong, featuring Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Didier Malherbe, Steve Hillage, Mike Howlett & Pierre Moerlen in Gong's best-known "Radio Gnome Invisible" trilogy line-up. 

3 stars 1970: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Brother - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA_xQv6oHwIUpm6O0YaJUrT
3 stars 1971: Daevid Allen's Gong - Camembert Electrique - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCPwOsH5kkDBkJzDVxf5lHa
4 stars 1972: Daevid Allen's Gong - Continental Circus (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDmGde7hOFRW315yc6rLOMM
4 stars 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at the Bataclan - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAQ_ArLxqTzKrsFluPVIl4z
4 stars 1974: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live at Sheffield - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA-OaGx0F5F_t46dq71oRMh
4 stars 1975: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live in Sherwood Forest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1W1xYb31oFAcc1tIjrdmF
4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen's Gong - Gong Live, Etc - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBF91FA8D6D315149
3 stars 1990: Daevid Allen's Gong - Access All Areas - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCSNtBDb_QyH7FXPsQhCH3W
3 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - The Peel Sessions 1971/74 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDve5EqZopWjRN6xkNk5mQw
4 stars 1995: Daevid Allen's Gong - 25th Birthday Party, The Forum, London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzD3NyonOAlKX7mw-aSLqiS8
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Zero to Infinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA1FjocEST5bajlpDqr717m
4 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - Live to Infinitea - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDB9QH-WEgZ6XzM5uueCG18
3 stars 2000: Daevid Allen's Gong - High Above the Subterranea Club - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzC_CC5nlAh5Ii9dD9o01a3v
4 stars 2003: Daevid Allen's Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCbDB0MDnW3iSCxJZGlJIq6
4 stars 2003: Daevid Allen's Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBP3ewL2klIa5mwSmM2rSmJ
4 stars 2003: Daevid Allen's Gong - The World of Daevid Allen & Gong, Vol. 3 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzABxi58AIvRr2pjiSxXqqYw
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations. Vol. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCmPThqF_L6167WLAwk1FAd
3 stars 2004: Daevid Allen's Gong - Magick Invocations, Vol. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBV5EbBogrMzYGjfVqVPzw2
4 stars 2013: Daevid Allen's Gong - A Storm in a Teapot -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBMED_qzmjcEGeX53toqqa1


SHAMAL GONG - Breezing onto the airwaves like a desert wind, Shamal was a transitional album between the line-up of Daevid Allen's Gong & Pierre Moerlen's Gong 



PIERRE MOERLEN'S GONG - An instrumental Jazz Fusion band led by French percussionist Pierre Moerlen (1952-2005). Broken Heart

4 stars 1981: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Leave It Open - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBNk-N3NgZmKDlgg--pOnJt
4 stars 1986: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Breakthrough - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAfRRLH8XIq-qV1gHzOVLVi
4 stars 1988: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Full Circle Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBzvSkHD6G6e9sB1ZPrzqZi


PLANET GONG - A collaborative Live album between Daevid Allen's Gong and the band Here & Now.



MOTHER GONG - A Gong spin-off led by "Wild Child" Gilli Smyth (1933-2016). Broken Heart

 2 stars 1981: Mother Gong - Robot Woman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhW96rRDFqg
 2 stars 1982: Mother Gong - Robot Woman 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZSxDwZcsM
 2 stars 1986: Mother Gong - Robot Woman 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o5waT2jH8c
 2 stars 1988: Mother Gong - Fish in the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qblYTnpn5Y
 2 stars 1988: Mother Gong - Buddha's Birthday - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HSo0S5ebKk
 3 stars 1989: Mother Gong & Daevid Allen - The Owl and the Tree - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kTAnpfHdZ9KZRD0WQ931i3w8pwf2lQymQ
 3 stars 1993: Mother Gong - She Made the World Magenta 
 3 stars 1994: Mother Gong - Tree in Fish - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL77AFB1DFCB5C9950


NEW YORK GONG - A one-off US album project by Daevid Allen, which continued on without Daevid Allen under the band name, Material.



GONG MAISON - An experimental album fusing the classic sound of Gong with modern-day dance music. Confused



GONGZILLA - A Gong tribute band featuring guitarist Allan Holdsworth on their first album. Thumbs Up

4 stars 1995: Gongzilla - Suffer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeqz9tYuBw
3 stars 1996: Gongzilla - Thrive - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KgKI8nxPq0
3 stars 2003: Gongzilla - East Village Sessions
3 stars 2008: Gongzilla - Five Even


ACID MOTHER'S GONG - A bizarre collaboration between Gong and Acid Mother's Temple. Confused



GONG MATRICES & GILLI SMYTH - A San Francisco jam band led by Gilli Smyth, for those who prefer something different to Mother Gong. Smile



GONG - Modern-day Gong, post Daevid Allen & Gilli Smyth. Broken Heart



GONG EXPRESSO - The latest branch of the massive Gong Family Tree.



DAEVID ALLEN (1938-2015) - Gong but not forgotten. He may be Bananas, but we love him for it. Smile

3 stars 1976: Daevid Allen & Euterpe - Good Morning! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGPRENFJQmJyErt1Uzukp1oh1kiyynGv5
4 stars 1977: Daevid Allen - Now is the Happiest Time of Your Life - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mfzHH9Ab83_eJFHQc_jqWNiIOj33nJZuQ
2 stars 1990: Daevid Allen - Ja-Am: Seven Drones - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZ0SruqsqU
2 stars 1990: Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth & Harry Williamson - Stroking the Tail of the Bird - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYjWO-XY5eg
3 stars 1992: Daevid Allen & Kramer - Who's Afraid? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxwjEvtPUM
3 stars 1995: Daevid Allen - Dreamin' a Dream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqEJOj3Curg


TIM BLAKE      You've seen Blake's 7, the TV sci-fi show (consider yourself lucky if you missed it), now it's time to experience  Blake's 7, the albums (or Blake's 9 if you include Tim Blake's last two compilations). English keyboardist Tim Blake has worked with such prog luminaries as Hawkwind and Gong, but he deserves a golden gong for his magnificent seven solo works too, including his heartfelt paean to the victims of Sarajevo in war-torn Bosnia-Herzegovina in the former Yugoslavia. If you're expecting Tim Blake to sound anything like Gong or Hawkwind though, then you'll be in for a big surprise. He sounds more like Tangerine Dream, only with vocals too, so think TD's Cyclone or Tyger era, and you won't be far out. It's Magick! Smile

 3 stars 2007: Tim Blake & Jean Phillipe Rykiel - Waterfalls in Space - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8D6_KbY_HGvimCo_WLUGH4gRWt8OEGjw
 4 stars 2024: Tim Blake - Crystal Presence (The Albums 1977-1991) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7SzpOpZGL_w2YjelMa-I1TduiiOqyr2E


STEVE HILLAGE - The Hippie from Outer Space.  Smile



ALLAN HOLDSWORTH (1946-2017) - Guitar legend Allan Holdsworth (1946-2017) has played with some of the biggest names in Jazz Rock/Fusion, most notably Soft Machine, Pierre Moerlen's Gong, short-lived supergroup U.K. & last but least 'Igginbottom (Who?). Allan Holdsworth has his own distinctive and instantly recognisable guitar style, which includes a vast array of complex chord progressions, such as diminished, augmented, chromatic and altered scales - and if that makes any sense at all to you, then you know far more about music theory than I do. As you can probably gather from my low ratings, the appeal of Jazz Fusion to me is diminished, just like some of Allan Holdsworth's chord progressions. Tongue

2 stars 1980: Allan Holdsworth, Gordon Beck, Jeff Clyne & John Stevens - Conversation Piece - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAcusrW39X4
2 stars 1980: Alan Holdsworth & Gordon Beck - The Things You See - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nkQRYCtGIbYlg5t9B9QiMASamGEmQA3d0
3 stars 1984: Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U.: Live in Japan - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nc1vpSnTDbywaByEA6yublcAzJhqaZfx8
2 stars 1988: Allan Holdsworth & Gordon Beck - With a Heart in My Song - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nP2jaGQ47Fk8f9uW2jtF5VOejs_0JLH1A
3 stars 1996: Allan Holdsworth, Anders Johansson & Jens Johansson - Heavy Machinery - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n0phkLD1hW_-sR60Z92ha_s3VHX7NtNHA
2 stars 1999: Allan Holdsworth - The Sixteen Men of Tain - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kC7Fs-HuK8mPBWO7LCharCVGOXTRO6yPE
2 stars 2003: Allan Holdsworth Group - Live - Then! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx8GeqYjvZA


DIDIER MALHERBE - A French musician who plays almost any instrument that can be blown, including the duduk!

3 stars 1979: Didier Malherbe - Bloom 
3 stars 1981: Didier Malherbe & Yan Emeric - Melodic Destiny - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWEtMnxAGeU
4 stars 1987: Didier Malherbe & Armand Frydman - Saxo Follies 
                 1990: Didier Malherbe - Fetish
                 1992: Didier Malherbe - Zeff
2 stars 1998: Didier Malherbe & Loy Ehrlich - Desert Lands - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTc4Dcs50mncUigUGZzgqO5bj3UWFHwzQ
3 stars 1998: Didier Malherbe & Pierre Bensusan - Live in Paris - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0FFVeJWNAjpEbbkCngbuh4KYiiEXplHw
2 stars 2011: Didier Malherbe & Eric Lohrer - Nuit D'Ombrelle - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lE-IuXFWEhBTWhF8j15bjiedlWnB6yINk


PIP PYLE (1950-2006) - A Canterbury Scene legend and drummer with Gong, Hatfield & the North and National Health.



GILLI SMYTH - Poetic co-founder of Gong, leader of Mother Gong and "space whisperer". Smile

 2 stars 1993: Gilli Smyth - Every Witches Way - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYf7w-kq3DM
 2 stars 1995: Gilli Smyth - Politico - Historico - Spirito - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mNDX78_QrvWRyo6e_Pg-p82IrVZ60XAo4
 3 stars 2004: Gilli Smyth & Gong Matrices - Parade -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nz_Z6w6FZzJf_wS6d8Ho--c5q2y7hII8w
 2 stars 2005: Gilli Smyth, David Allen & Orlando Allen - I Am Your Egg - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mAZpaM-Va5OeZ0JOTt0tAALYcib7S5yZQ




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Another recent find from the Gong archives:-


It's totally weird stuff but nothing less than what you would expect  from Gilli Smyth & Gong. Smile


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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Maybe it's time for another series of Gong polls, pitching Gong albums against solo albums by Gong members to see which albums are worthy of the Golden Gong. Smile
Well, if we do solo albums by Gong members, you know Allan Holdsworth will be my choice, Paul.
Well, I have to admit, I never realised Allan Holdsworth was a former member of Gong. Embarrassed
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