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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Floydoid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2025 at 03:10
I'm not a fan of the Peace bits on 'In the Wake of Poseidon'. My revised playlist for the album which works well IMO:

01 Pictures of a City
02 Cadence and Cascade
03 In the Wake of Poseidon
04 Cat Food
05 Groon
06 The Devil's Triangle
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BasedProgger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2025 at 10:00
Only other King Crimson album that comes to mind here is Starless and Bible Black since most of the album was recorded live.

In: The complete version of "The Law of Maximum Distress" (realistically wouldn't have happened since apparently the band severed "The Mincer" tapes from the rest of the improv and what we hear now is an edit attempt to restore the original)
Out: "We'll Let You Know"

Side one (over 27 minutes long but Genesis had longer album sides before this so it's not an issue)
01 Starless and Bible Black (yes it'd be commercial suicide but if Larks and Red can both begin with their instrumental title tracks, the former being even less accessible than this, who cares?)
02 The Great Deceiver
03 Lament
04 The Night Watch
05 Trio

Side two
06 The Law of Maximum Distress (but it'd most likely be called "The Mincer")
07 Fracture

Either way, SaBB is a great and underrated album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2025 at 04:27
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Tull have several songs from every album year that are better than album songs


For me Aqualung works well with the five tracks from the 'Life Is a Long Song' E.P. tacked onto the end of the album


There’s a pretty strong 30+ minutes of tunes that would make a pretty good album almost.
Aqualung could have had one less song and lasted about 40 minutes. Wind up could have been that one.
I prefer the early version anyway. Second album could have been

Lick your fingers clean 2:49
Up the pool 3:09
Wind up(early) 5:22
Nursie 1:35
Dr Bogenbroom 2:58
Wondring again/aloud 7:08
From later 2:04
Just trying to be 1:38
Life’s a long song 3:20
Slipstream 2 0:55
Hard headed English general 3:07




Edited by dr prog - June 16 2025 at 04:43
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2025 at 04:57
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^I have a stronger dislike of Epping Forest than More Fool Me. It grates my ears. It's a complete mystery to me how an album containg those two mentioned songs is considered one of the greatest Prog albums of all time.


Agreed, and with "Epping Forest" in particular. Like a bad guest, it wears out it's welcome after 3 or 4 minutes, but stays long after everyone else has gone home and you want to go to bed.


Epping Forest has got to be their funniest track of the 70's.

The lyrics are awesome and the music fits them perfectly, though it's clear more instrumental time might've done it more good. I think this track should've needed another three or four minutes more.

Furthermore Epping Forest fits perfectly as the centrepiece the album's concept (Britain's decline), something MFM isn't at all. A reworked Twilight Alehouse might've been worked in as well, but since it existed since Nursery Cryme...

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Tull have several songs from every album year that are better than album songs


That may be rather true for the later 70's albums (and later on as well), but for the pre-TAAB albums, I don't think it was often the case.

Sure a couple of singles (Christmas Day, Living In The Past, Singing All Day, etc...) might've sat well with This Was or Benefit, but not at the expense of another track. And certainly not on Aqualung or Stand Up (or Brick, FTM)

I like the 68-70 outtakes and singles a lot
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2025 at 05:00
Epping is the best song on England imo
Fun and catchy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2025 at 20:34
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Faul_McCartney Faul_McCartney wrote:

The Greg Lake version of "Cadence and Cascade", I never listen to the album version and use this one on all my playlist. I really don't know why they went with Haskell on this, his voice just doesn't fit. Maybe to ease people into the next album. For Genesis, "Evidence of Autumn" isn't the greatest, but it would have been a nice substitute to one of Duke's weaker tracks. And if they went with the full Dodo/Lurker suite and removed some of the filler, Abacab would probably hold up a lot better.


In The Wake of Poseidon was a bit of a mess really, a record of a band falling apart. I can't stand the Devils Triangle personally and would just skip that fully but no idead what could be inserted instead , this is total filler imo.

Fully agree about Abacab but with Duke I would just make it a little shorter (why so many Genesis albums are 50-55 minutes is a bit baffling to me) and restore the 'Duke Suite'.


Instead of The Devil's Triangle you could consider the live version of Mars from the original lineup's tours.
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The first that comes to my mind is in Mirage, from Camel, replace Lady Fantasy with the bonus track version of the song. I read the one on the album was slightly hastened on the studio, while the bonus version is played at the normal speed, and I guess that's why I find the song sounds more beautiful.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2025 at 20:40
Also, I mentioned this on a previous thread I think, on Fragile I like to replace Wakeman's solo spot (Cans and Brahms) with Catherine of Aragon, which features just about the whole Yes lineup from that era, and I have read it's the song Wakeman himself wanted to contribute, but couldn't do so because of his contract as a solo artist.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ just need something to replace Battle Of Epping Forest


Me too.
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