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    Posted: August 31 2007 at 05:50
Tonight, my beau and I watched an early H-Marillion DVD from the Seasons End tour, in which the band played Seasons End in its entirety (broken up and re-arranged amongst Fish-era tracks), and I got to thinking...  it's not common that an established band with several albums under its belt will play their new album in its entirety unless it's a concept album.

I'm having trouble thinking of many bands that've done that...  used the majority of their show to play their brand-new non-concept album completely.  It's a brave thing to do, no pun intended.  You risk alienating the 'hardcore' fans who are in love with the old material and don't want the set 'wasted' by new material that they aren't too familiar with.

Really, aside from this instance, the only other one that springs to mind is a recent Iron Maiden tour where they played the new album completely (and got a lot of bad reviews for it). 

Concept albums don't count.

Any examples?  Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 07:02
Camel do it regularly
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 07:20

Presumably VDGG did it, considering there's a DVD of their 1975 album 'Godbluff' played in its entirety at the same concert.

ELP must have come close with 'Brain Salad Surgery'- certainly, on the triple live album 'Welcome Back...' the whole album is played except for 'Benny The Bouncer', and I'm sure that's surfaced on subsequent live releases and those 'official bootlegs'.
 
Genesis almost played 'Invisible Touch' in its entirety on tour as well, I believe. The only song that was not played was 'Anything She Does', which Tony Banks claims on a documentary I have was 'too complicated to play live'???ConfusedLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 07:40
This is just ''business as usual''.
 
You have a new product, you've got to market it  ...like new computers, new movies, new toothpaste.
 
2nd aspect: a musician like a painter, like an actor is always proud of its new ''baby'' and want the world to know about it. Nothing wrong with that, just human natureBig%20smile and you have bills to pay like everyone else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 07:57
Gilmour played the whole of "On an Island" on his tour last year. And the listing was almost identical to the album (he moved "Take a Breath" from 4th to 6th or 7th song, If I recall).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 08:11
Nonprog - Tom Petty played the entire Last DJ album live at a concert in Montreal which I have DVD of.  I don't think that he did the whole tour that way however.
 
When I saw Rush on Tuesday they played 8 out of the 11 songs from Snakes and Arrows, which is quite a few new songs for a band with almost 20 albums worth of material they could have played.  As a Rush fan, it was exciting to see all of the new songs played, but also disappointing because of all the classic songs that they didn't play.  It is a good thing that I have seen them a number of times so I have seen the classics paid in past tours.
 
Strangely enough, with all of the times that I have seen Yes, I don't think that I have ever seen them play all 3 songs from Close to the Edge, or all 4 songs from Tales of Topographic Oceans.  They always play at least 2 from each album, but not all of the songs.  I imagine that when these albums came out they might have played the entire albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 08:23
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

This is just ''business as usual''.
 
You have a new product, you've got to market it


Actually, it is usually the other way 'round, meaning that musicians base their marketing on their previous "products", which their "buyers" already know and feel comfortable with, in order to induce within this safe medium some of the new product, but not very much of it, in order not to create discomfort ("What is this?").
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 09:13
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Tonight, my beau and I watched an early H-Marillion DVD from the Seasons End tour, in which the band played Seasons End in its entirety (broken up and re-arranged amongst Fish-era tracks), and I got to thinking...  it's not common that an established band with several albums under its belt will play their new album in its entirety unless it's a concept album.

I'm having trouble thinking of many bands that've done that...  used the majority of their show to play their brand-new non-concept album completely.  It's a brave thing to do, no pun intended.  You risk alienating the 'hardcore' fans who are in love with the old material and don't want the set 'wasted' by new material that they aren't too familiar with.

Really, aside from this instance, the only other one that springs to mind is a recent Iron Maiden tour where they played the new album completely (and got a lot of bad reviews for it). 

Concept albums don't count.

Any examples?  Big%20smile


Aaron,

I have that DVD as well (Geez, a shocker, eh?), and I think the reason why everything was from Seasons End was included was the fact that it was their first album with Hogarth. They more than likely felt the need to give the audience a full show without an imbalance of the set being in the older material's favor. That's just my take on it.

Marillion also performed Marbles in it's entirety during their 2004 tour.

Someone mentioned Camel, but I can't think of any others.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 10:41
Metallica - Master of Puppets. Not prog but hey-ho.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 11:53
On their last tour, Iron Maiden played the entire "A Matter Of Life and Death" album from start to finish right at the beginning of the show.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 13:21
Was there any instance of Pain of Salvation playing Be in concert just like on the DVD?

On a different note, Pink Floyd played DSOTM on PULSE, right?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 13:30
Porcupine Tree played every song from Fear of a Blank Planet on this current tour, but not at once; they interspersed other songs, mostly from In Absentia and Deadwing, between the new ones.

Roger Waters plays Dark Side of the Moon on this current tour as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 14:10
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

ELP must have come close with 'Brain Salad Surgery'- certainly, on the triple live album 'Welcome Back...' the whole album is played except for 'Benny The Bouncer', and I'm sure that's surfaced on subsequent live releases and those 'official bootlegs'.
 
 
 
Welcome Back is the complete BSS show with the exception of the Knife Edge and the encore which was the second half  of Pictures at an Exhibition (about 20-25 minutes long).  Benny the Bouncer was never played live as far as I know. 
What a great show where Tarkus, Karn Evil and Pictures were played pretty much complete.  Clap
 
Kansas played the entire Point of Know Return album  in 1977 (they might have done complete Levtoverature as well except for Opus Insert but my memory may be bad on that. 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 17:16
White Willow played all of their last album, Signal To Noise, at the Summers End festivel last year but with Chemical Sunset played between Crome Dawn and Dusk City, plus they missed out the 1 minute instrumental Ararat at the end.

Isis played In The Absence of Truth in its entirety when I saw them in May and only used older songs for the encore.

As has already been mentioned, Marillion played all of Marbles on their last tour, but replacing Drilling Holes with The Damage.

Seems to be a trend of late, and when a band only gets an hour or so to play then it takes up the whole show, and I cant say I like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2007 at 18:25
Originally posted by puma puma wrote:

Porcupine Tree played every song from Fear of a Blank Planet on this current tour,l.


He said "no concept albums"

Which bands (apart from PT, please dont mention PT) have....Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2007 at 00:31
Ah, yes, how could I forget, Cynic playd Focus entirely on their reunion concert Thumbs%20Up

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Originally posted by Asphalt Asphalt wrote:

Ah, yes, how could I forget, Cynic playd Focus entirely on their reunion concert Thumbs%20Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2007 at 02:27
King Crimson played all Lark`s Tongues in Aspic in the tour following that album. It maybe happened also when they toured for Discipline.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2007 at 03:56
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:


I'm having trouble thinking of many bands that've done that...  used the majority of their show to play their brand-new non-concept album completely.  It's a brave thing to do, no pun intended.  You risk alienating the 'hardcore' fans who are in love with the old material and don't want the set 'wasted' by new material that they aren't too familiar with.


Dream Theater, unless you think all of their albums are "concept" albums. And yes, for Marillion it is their regular thing to play entire new album in fan events.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2007 at 04:28
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by puma puma wrote:

Porcupine Tree played every song from Fear of a Blank Planet on this current tour,l.


He said "no concept albums"

Which bands (apart from PT, please dont mention PT) have....Tongue


Actually there are two types of concept albums ... those which are like a play or movie and follow a script/tell a story, and those which are loose collections of songs/tracks which are all based on similar, related topics. I think that only the latter group qualifies as a concept album in the original sense (like for example Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, The Wall, Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime, Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory). GeekWink


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