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Epyros 
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 Topic: Similarities between songs (just coincidence?)
Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:24 |
It may sound weird, but one of the things I enjoy the most when listening to music is recognizing similarities or even the same arrangements in songs. I don`t know if many of you find some but there are many incredible coincidences.
I will mention some of them and i'd like you to do the same and if you want to, add something to this little list, i'd like to know what you think about them:
"Phoenix" (wishbone Ash) at 6:36 with "child in time" (deep purple) section at the solo (at 5:45) : I've read that blackmore, and Andy Powell played together while blackmore was warming up for a concert and he recomended them to a producer. Furthermore the albums "In Rock" and "Wishbone Ash" were released the same year they jammed together (In rock on June but I don't know the date of WA) so there may be a connection between them that if you know I'd love to know
"Gates of Delirium" (Yes) at 18:10 and 20:22 with "Am I really losing you?" (Pendragon) at 2:30: Here it only sounds similar as the speed is different but when i listened to it my brain started searching where i had heard that before
Album Ocean by Eloy always remembers me of david guilmour's playing, theres a particular song but I don't remember but this one anyway it's quite obvious
"Master of illusion" (pendragon) at 2:20 and 3:50: this one is just a weird feeling but i think i've heard as a child this sound in bee-gees backing chorus but as i haven`t heard bee gees since then i´m not sure but it's funny =P
there are a few more where i just think I heard that before and i even think of some artists but can`t find them.
Anyway hope you post some songs or some details about phoenix and child in time
Cya
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DantesRing
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:50 |
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Porcupine Tree's Voyage 34 seemed to crib most of it's musical substance from Another Brick In The Wall...
And Eloy reminded me of Alan Parsons Project, especially the Oceans album.
Not prog, but the one that bothers me the most right now is the Foo
Fighters Let It Die which seems to have lifted its main chorus from
Journey's Stone In Love...
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:54 |
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Hey! As you know Pendragon and Floyd, check Walls of Babylon! It has the intro of Shine On and then turns into Watcher of the Skies!
Yeah there are many, it's not weird, actually it's quite normal, since most of the similarities are from old bands and new bands, which the new ones have been influenced by the old ones. And the same happens for an album that is released the same year as another, not EVERY, but there are plenty you can find out. Trespass and Atom Heart Mother have an exact chord progression in one of their songs.
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 16:05 |
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The opening minutes of the awful Klaus Schulze's "Mental Door" (title says it all, really) bear a strong resemblance to the opening of "Shine on You Crazy Diamond". Coincidence? Same wavelength? Outright plagiarism? Well, Klaus must have come first! (Which reminds me of a superb cartoon. You see a chicken and an egg in bed together. The chicken is smoking a cigarette and saying, with an unhappy face: 'Now we know the answer to THAT old question!')
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 18:54 |
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how about "Astral Traveller" by Yes and "Can-Utility and the Coastliners" by Genesis? same riff and almost identical keyboard solo.
Edited by BaldJean - October 13 2008 at 04:58
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 18:57 |
 DantesRing wrote:
Porcupine Tree's Voyage 34 seemed to crib most of it's musical substance from Another Brick In The Wall...
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One guitar lick. That's all.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 04:39 |
Another interesting one: 'Child in Time' by Deep Purple and 'Bombay Calling' by It's a Beautiful Day.
'Bombay Calling' was first...
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 04:51 |
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Geee, what an inventive topic...
Anyway.
Prophets of War just screams out Muse (which particular song, I don't know, just a whole heap of Muse stuff) and it's also a really crap song, easily the worst off Systematic Chaos.
Lul.
Can't think of any others off the top of my head... who cares really?
As long as you think it kicks ass, that's all that matters.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 05:06 |
Epyros wrote:
"Master of illusion" (pendragon) at 2:20 and 3:50: this one is just a weird feeling but i think i've heard as a child this sound in bee-gees backing chorus but as i haven`t heard bee gees since then i´m not sure but it's funny =P
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Cool! I will dig out my BeeGee's albums and give 'em a spin!  (although, I am SERIOUSLY doubting that Nick was listening to the BeeGee's himself!  )
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 16:41 |
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"The Fountain of Salmacis" by Genesis and "Felona e Sorona" by Le Orme have very similar opening sections (albeit different speeds).
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mgallard
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 18:55 |
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I found one that is quite astounding:
On Dream Theater's "Surrounded" on the Chaos in Motion DVD, 4'53'' before ending of the 12'53'' track there is passage that is identical to the start of Marillion's "Sugar Mice".
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 19:38 |
stonebeard wrote:
DantesRing wrote:
Porcupine Tree's Voyage 34 seemed to crib most of it's musical substance from Another Brick In The Wall...
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One guitar lick. That's all.
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Agree. I think Wilson even does it better!!
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"There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about"
MJK
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 20:53 |
The chorus of "We Ain't Got Nothing Yet" by the Beau Brummels (1st released).
The main riff of "Black Night" by Deep Purple (2nd).
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 21:08 |
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The intro to Return of the Giant Hogweed is quite similar to the one from Lady Fantasy, not the same chords but still similar.
Kiss' Makin' Love has the exact riff from Whole Lotta Love from Zep, though it might be a tribute song, surely.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 21:26 |
someone_else wrote:
Another interesting one: 'Child in Time' by Deep Purple and 'Bombay Calling' by It's a Beautiful Day.'Bombay Calling' was first... |
Deep Purple ripped that off from It's a Beautiful Day, they finally paid tribute with a live CD recorded in India called Bombay Calling.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 21:36 |
Easy Money wrote:
someone_else wrote:
Another interesting one: 'Child in Time' by Deep Purple and 'Bombay Calling' by It's a Beautiful Day.'Bombay Calling' was first... |
Deep Purple ripped that off from It's a Beautiful Day, they finally paid tribute with a live CD recorded in India called Bombay Calling. |
Also as a "trade", It's A Beautiful Day later ripped off Wring that Neck from Purple.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:38 |
Let's not forget the mother of all rip-offs. Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven (you've perhaps heard that song  ) is a flat-out lift of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album. But then Zep was never shy about uncredited appropriation.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 05:01 |
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The ending of Anekdoten's Karelia is very similar to King Crimsons Red, though I'd bet that was intentional.
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Easy Money
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 05:47 |
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Regarding the Wishbone and Purple jams mentioned in the original post, that is just a common riff and psuedo boogie rhythm that was common in the early 70s. Listen to Camel and Focus from the same time period and you will find similar jams, also the jam part to ZZ Top's LaGrange.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 06:33 |
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The beginning of The magic roundabout (IQ) sounds like Does it really happen to you by Yes
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