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Grobsch 
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 Topic: Why Grobschnitt isn't consider the best band ever?
Posted: December 28 2008 at 06:52 |
For me Grobschnitt is at least one of the ten best bands of all time... but they are not in most lists... WHY? They are the best in live concerts... they are great musicians... they have an unique sound... they have a huge discography... they were one of the most famous Germany band during 70's... Why Grobschnitt isn't consider the best band ever? Which is the main reason why Grobschnitt isn't consider the best band? 
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micky
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 07:12 |
hahahha.. .we have this conversation in the Palazzo RPI all the time. the obvious answer is the correct one... they weren't English
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Rivertree
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 07:27 |
For all those characteristics you enumerate in your first post you will find other german bands too, that's the problem Grobsch - why not Embryo for example.  BTW - Grobschnitt of course has been an excellent live band - 'This is solar music' - I could enjoy them in the 70s - it was really great. 
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NotAProghead
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 07:54 |
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Other reason, I don't think they are unique. Just one more good band.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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JayDee
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 08:08 |
Because they are not famous? I dunno.... 
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Atkingani
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 08:33 |
Let me guess...duh, because they're not Brazilians?  
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Padraic
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 09:02 |
Because Henry Cow exists? 
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fuxi
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 09:05 |
I've always wanted to ask the same question about Kenso, whom I revere. THEIR problem must be that they aren't from Belgium!
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 09:52 |
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omri
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 11:18 |
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I have only one Grobschnit album so I may be wrong but from what I've heared they aren't even the best German band (For me it's a close race between Can and Amon duul II).
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:08 |
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Because they have a silly name.
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micky
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:13 |
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Because they have a silly name.
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ahhh... that must be the answer hahaha explains why no one considers any of the RPI groups in the 'best ever'. I just thought it was just the usual pro-English prog bias.. but now that you mention it. It is hard to take bands that sound like dishes at the Olive Garden seriously I guess
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Ricochet
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:21 |
How can Grobschnitt be the best band ever, if they've sold out worse than Genesis and Yes did after the 70s? 
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micky
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:23 |
Ricochet wrote:
How can Grobschnitt be the best band ever, if they've sold out worse than Genesis and Floyd did after the 70s?
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valid point my son.
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crimhead
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:42 |
Ricochet wrote:
How can Grobschnitt be the best band ever, if they've sold out worse than Genesis and Yes did after the 70s?
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Is that even possible?
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micky
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 12:47 |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 13:05 |
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Grobsch
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 03:32 |
Being the best is not about being the best, is about perception... I think the main reason is because they are not british... Grobschnitt, PFM, Eloy, Novalis, Rush and some other famous and great bands out of England will never be consider the best by the press... but why we can't consider? Being from Germany changes our taste? What I'm saying is: only Pink Floyd is famous... maybe Rush, too. Fame is not stopping Grobschnitt, or Henry Cow, or Novalis, or Magma, or Can to be consider the best band... or one of the best band... Age, too... or we will not have so many young people here and those bands like Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater consider the best... So, till now most are saying, if you are from Great Britain and a young boy likes porcupine Tree, he will try listen to you and it's possible he will consider your band the best, but if you are from Italy or Germany...
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 03:49 |
omri wrote:
I have only one Grobschnit album so I may be wrong but from what I've heared they aren't even the best German band (For me it's a close race between Can and Amon duul II). |
You obviously haven't heard many German bands
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Grobsch
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 04:12 |
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BTW, three fans have included Grobschnitt in the top ten list here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51513
The Grobschnitt page here start with:
"Formed in 1970 the band existed till 1989,
GROBSCHNITT (which translates to ROUGH CUT) was the best German band
from the mid-Seventies (ELOY were then in a more PINK FLOYD... and
ambient style)"
Solar music Live is getting a 4,52 in 57 ratings...
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