Punkers Hate Us More...Look

well, if they do, then that's their prob.  Me, I'll jus roll another one

Snow Dog wrote: goose wrote: Zitro wrote: crappy dumb music

NO WAY, PROG IS COOLER

lOOK:

Zitro wrote:   Oh well, I couldn't help myself. It is really dumb music and it always sounds the same. Only the Police could be more tolerable, Offspring has a lot of energy and attitude that makes it less bad and U2 sounds like a mixture of pop and punk and sounds very good.   For me U2 is the prog punk. Since its the only intelligent punkish band.

I don't think U2 is that Punk anymore, they do have Punk influences, but that has easily faded.

Man Overboard wrote: And as usual, my post of inflammatory reason goes unnoticed...

Happens to me every day.

Fenrir wrote: Still... I don`t know what this is all about. Comparing prog and punk? Wow. Great idea. Punks are dirty morons. trust me I know many of them. my country is full of punks {"the real ones"}. their style and their music is pure garbage so why bother???

That was certainly not the most intelligent thing to say but by far the most truthful thing.
Let me put it that way:
I know it and you know it: maybe punk has some acceptable melodies (i'm not even shure) but musically it can't be compared to ProgRock. After all, it isn't about the music (i shure hope so) - most of the punks (at least, most of the punks i know) are just idiots who don't enjoy working and hate the fact that everyone thinks that they are lazy. who can blame them ??
sorry for this immature post but that's just my opinion and let me say that i know that not every punk is that way but until now those are the only kinds i've met. (ok not the only, but 95% at least)

ivan_2068 wrote: So why can we give our opinions  in this forum?

I agree and therefore I've done so.

BTW, Jon, I'm not dissing punks, (Some of my best friends like punk music, I'm the only fourteen year old Canadian Prog fan I know.), I'm dissing the music and the philosophy, both of which I strongly dissagree with.

Did we change the world ? Its open to question  . Maybe , but not the way we had expected. I think the Pistols made it up as they went along , or just played McLarens game , with the exception of Lydon , they were his puppets . I supose it opened music up to people who otherwise would never have had the chance , and it ( probably accidentally ) indirectly created a number of movements after it , such as goth , grunge - some in reaction to punk and some as offshoots or extensions ( 2-tone ) . However I don't see that as part of any masterplan - there wasn't one. Basically , at the end of the day it was just a  bunch of kids enjoying themselves and try to express themselves as best they could .You can't say punk meant this or that - because it meant many different things to many different people.

 

End of todays lesson. Sure you're all getting bored anyway  with this now.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people complain punks are too stupid to understand prog, and that all punk is worthless. Sorry to break it to anyone in that situation, but that's you not understanding punk!

Sure, lots of it's simple, but if you can't comprehend why anyone would want to listen to it, and if you're saying punks are too stupid to understand complex music you're too stupid to understand simple music . In general I find simpler music more difficult to appreciate because there's less going on (perhaps it requires more imagination and abstract thought since there's less to "grab on to"? ), but I'm not snobby enough to claim it's not worthy of me (I'll save my snobbery for musicals, soap operas, McDonald's and pop music, thankyou )

Well, ahem...

NetsNJFan wrote: thats like saying a painting with a black dot in the middle (or something retarded along those lines) is a masterpiece because its simple and requires imagination.

... here is my masterpiece:

 

 

 

 

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I'll second that.