| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
Ivan_Melgar_M 
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
|
 Posted: September 28 2010 at 23:37 |
 Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
The First Great Awakening is a USA Protestant Movement, even in USA the percentage of people who answered this question is extremely low, only 11% of the people who took the survey
I doubt many people outside Protestant USA will answer or even care about this question.
The rest are quite easy, but read the percentage of poeple who have low scores, most are minorities like non white Latino Catholics and Black Protestant, the sectors that usually score lower in any test about anything.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 29 2010 at 09:12
|
|
|
 |
Trademark
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 21 2006
Location: oHIo
Status: Offline
Points: 1009
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:04 |
|
14/15. I feel so well rounded.
|
|
Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:19 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
I've never heard of the Great Awakening.
Sorry.
* shrugs *
|
|
Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:28 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
The First Great Awakening is a USA Protestant Movement, even in USA the percentage of people who answered this question is extremely low, only 11% of the people who took the survey
I doubt many people outside Protestant USA will answer or even care about this question.
The rest are quite easy, but read the percentage of poeple who have low scores, most are minorities like non white Latino Catholics and Black Protestant, the sectors that usually score lower in any test about anything.
Iván |
I understand. It wasn't a literal statement.
|
|
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
|
|
Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:28 |
Padraic wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
I've never heard of the Great Awakening.
Sorry.
* shrugs * |
That's those Philly public schools at work.
|
|
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
|
|
Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:29 |
|
...
Edited by Padraic - September 29 2010 at 09:31
|
|
Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:31 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
I've never heard of the Great Awakening.
Sorry.
* shrugs * |
That's those Philly public schools at work. |
Not really - I grew up in Rhode Island. 
I just wiki'd this; I'm positive this was never taught in any class I've taken, I remember pretty much everything that was taught in my various history classes.
Edited by Padraic - September 29 2010 at 09:32
|
|
Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
Status: Offline
Points: 15784
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:32 |
Padraic wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
How could anyone get a single question on that test wrong?
|
I've never heard of the Great Awakening.
Sorry.
* shrugs * |
That's those Philly public schools at work. |
Not really - I grew up in Rhode Island.
I just wiki'd this; I'm positive this was never taught in any class I've taken, I remember pretty much everything that was taught in my various history classes. |
Good choice to relocate.
|
|
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
|
|
Padraic
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 09:34 |
|
That personal educational failing aside, I too am surprised how poorly most Americans did on the quiz. Then again, I recently read that 20% of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth, so perhaps I shouldn't be shocked at our collective ignorance.
Edited by Padraic - September 29 2010 at 09:35
|
|
Mr ProgFreak
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 5195
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 10:16 |
|
13/15 ... didn't know that Job was that much into suffering. Question 15 is apparently in there to find the true scholars.
|
|
Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19557
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 10:28 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
13/15 ... didn't know that Job was that much into suffering. Question 15 is apparently in there to find the true scholars. |
Not even, I studied sme Theology and never heard about the First Awakening.
Mainly because is a very limited movement mainly imprtant to four minority Protestant Congregarions (Congregational church, the Presbyterian church, the Dutch Reformed Church, and the German Reformed denomination) and lasted a decade only from 1730 to 1740.
The Concept of Great Awakening has been criticized by experts as vague and exaggerated, being that is mainly a style of preaching.
The question is absurd, except for Ptesbyrterians and USA historians, why should a Catholic, Moslem or Jewish had a clue about this?
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 29 2010 at 10:30
|
|
|
|
Mr ProgFreak
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 5195
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 10:42 |
^ I find it more interesting that apparently many Catholics think that the transsubstantiation is meant symbolically. 
Edited by Mr ProgFreak - September 29 2010 at 10:43
|
|
Trademark
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 21 2006
Location: oHIo
Status: Offline
Points: 1009
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 10:47 |
I got #15 right, but its probably because I grew up in an area with a really heavy concentration of Christian Reformed Churches (which is what Dutch Reformed is called in the US & Canada). Where I grew up (a town in Michigan named after a country in Europe) the most popular bumper sticker in town was "If you're not Dutch, you're not much"
The Great Awakening wouldn't be something you'd hear about in school unless you're talking about a religious history course at university, but as I understand it aspects of it are part of the core teaching within the CRC denominations. Like Mike, I had trouble with Job.
Edited by Trademark - September 29 2010 at 10:49
|
|
The T
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 12:06 |
11 out of 15...
I failed the Great Awakening one, one about bible as an example in classes, jewish's sabbath staring on friday, and the job's patience one (I chose Abraham because of his readiness to kill his son..)
|
|
|
|
Dean
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 12:29 |
Trademark wrote:
I got #15 right, but its probably because I grew up in an area with a really heavy concentration of Christian Reformed Churches (which is what Dutch Reformed is called in the US & Canada). Where I grew up (a town in Michigan named after a country in Europe) the most popular bumper sticker in town was "If you're not Dutch, you're not much"
The Great Awakening wouldn't be something you'd hear about in school unless you're talking about a religious history course at university, but as I understand it aspects of it are part of the core teaching within the CRC denominations.
Like Mike, I had trouble with Job. |
I got 14/15 and had 50:50 chance of geting #15 right (knew it wasn't Billy Graham) I guessed wrong 
Other than that, the results of the poll don;'t surprise me at all and I don't think the relative scores reflects badly on theists (wrt to atheists) - as long as they know something about their own faith it's not important that they know about everyone else's.
|
|
What?
|
|
Trademark
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 21 2006
Location: oHIo
Status: Offline
Points: 1009
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 12:29 |
|
The results in the article may not be accurate. So far, here, the theists are out performing the atheists.
|
|
stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 12:36 |
Dean wrote:
Other than that, the results of the poll don;'t surprise me at all and I don't think the relative scores reflects badly on theists (wrt to atheists) - as long as they know something about their own faith it's not important that they know about everyone else's. |
I'm surprised you take that opinion.
It even seems that many don't know enough about their own religion, which is telling. But besides that, how can being insulated from knowing about other people be a good thing? Of course I'm thinking outside of the twisted backwards land many faithful reside in, in which faith is more valuable than knowledge and believing in the lore of desert tribesman thousands of years ago is a virtue.
Sure, knowing specks of information about one's own faith is useful, as it prevents the illusion from crashing down if one thinks about these things from a broader perspective.
And above all, that's what Americans seem to want: not to be right, not to know facts, but not to poke and prod and find holes in their worldviews, so they might have to think about their lives.
Edited by stonebeard - September 29 2010 at 12:46
|
|
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 13:34 |
Padraic wrote:
That personal educational failing aside, I too am surprised how poorly most Americans did on the quiz. Then again, I recently read that 20% of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth, so perhaps I shouldn't be shocked at our collective ignorance. |
It's more like 18% the last I heard, but same difference, I suppose. We're stupid in massive groups.
How many of those 18% are Atheists, do you think? I'd like to think none. But who knows.
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 13:40 |
Alright, I took the test myself, now. The only question I answered incorrectly was about the Jewish Sabbath. In my defense, the question is phrased a little misleadingly, if you ask me. But now I'm just being petty. 14 out of 15 is a damn good score, especially for an ignorant Atheist like myself.
|
|
JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4900
|
Posted: September 29 2010 at 13:47 |
Dean wrote:
Other than that, the results of the poll don;'t surprise me at all and I don't think the relative scores reflects badly on theists (wrt to atheists) - as long as they know something about their own faith it's not important that they know about everyone else's. |
I don't agree with this. If you're a believer in something that comes under scrutiny, I would expect it to be your duty to know enough about other schools of thought in order to properly debate your critics. Whether it be members of another religion, the irreligious, or the unreligious. The fact that the results showed very limited knowledge on the part of the faithful regarding their OWN religion, as well as others . . . well, that should show you right there why nobody can 100% agree with a fellow follower of the same religion. Too much is left to interpretation and too much is simply not talked about.
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
Theism vs. Atheism ... will it ever be settled?
