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Originally posted by AlanB AlanB wrote:

When I bought my first copy of Argus by Wishbone Ash it was on cassette. For some reason I don't understand, sides one and two were reversed and for years I thought the album started with The King Will Come and ended with Blowing Free. That actually made sense to me because The King Will Come is an obvious opener for live shows and Blowing Free was often the show closer or encore. It was only when I replaced my cassette with a vinyl copy that I realised that Time Was was the opening track but I still think the cassette order of songs is better.

This reminds me of Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny (not on PA). On the original release and early reissues, side 1 and side 2 were on the cover list the opposite of those on the vinyl itself, and this order makes best sense to me. For it means that the album opens with "Prelude", has imo better flow in its entirety, and I also find "Dreamer Deceiver" and "Deceiver" to be best final tracks.

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AlanB AlanB wrote:

When I bought my first copy of Argus by Wishbone Ash it was on cassette. For some reason I don't understand, sides one and two were reversed and for years I thought the album started with The King Will Come and ended with Blowing Free. That actually made sense to me because The King Will Come is an obvious opener for live shows and Blowing Free was often the show closer or encore. It was only when I replaced my cassette with a vinyl copy that I realised that Time Was was the opening track but I still think the cassette order of songs is better.

This reminds me of Judas Priest's Sad Wings of Destiny (not on PA). On the original release and early reissues, side 1 and side 2 were on the cover list the opposite of those on the vinyl itself, and this order makes best sense to me. For it means that the album opens with "Prelude", has imo better flow in its entirety, and I also find "Dreamer Deceiver" and "Deceiver" to be best final tracks.

Either order is fine but yes that might work better since that album loses it's steam after "Tyrant" in my opinion, the last three tracks being meh.
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Originally posted by BasedProgger BasedProgger wrote:

Either order is fine but yes that might work better since that album loses it's steam after "Tyrant" in my opinion, the last three tracks being meh.


It's been a LONG time since I've listened to Judas Priest, but I always liked "Epitaph" on Sad Wings of Destiny. It was such a change of pace on an otherwise intense album and Halford's vocal is wonderful.
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Just thought of another good example:

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is one of my Top 5 favorite Genesis albums, but...

1) I ALWAYS skip over "The Waiting Room".
2) 95% of the time, I skip over "The Lamia".
3) On very rare occasions, I've skipped over "Ravine" and that bizarre instrumental overture to "The Colony of Slippermen".
4) I've NEVER skipped over "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats", because I absolutely LOVE that brief atmospheric masterpiece in spite of other listeners always complaining about it.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Just thought of another good example:

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is one of my Top 5 favorite Genesis albums, but...

1) I ALWAYS skip over "The Waiting Room".
2) 95% of the time, I skip over "The Lamia".
3) On very rare occasions, I've skipped over "Ravine" and that bizarre instrumental overture to "The Colony of Slippermen".
4) I've NEVER skipped over "Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats", because I absolutely LOVE that brief atmospheric masterpiece in spite of other listeners always complaining about it.


skipping Waiting Room and Lamia
Silent Sorrow overstays its welcome by +/- three minutes
I simply rarely played side-D


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Edited by Sean Trane - June 12 2025 at 11:49
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BasedProgger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2025 at 14:49
Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

It's been a LONG time since I've listened to Judas Priest, but I always liked "Epitaph" on Sad Wings of Destiny. It was such a change of pace on an otherwise intense album and Halford's vocal is wonderful.

I was never a fan of that song. Although oddly enough I remember seeing that song on some professional greatest prog rock songs of all time list scratching my heads thinking "how is this prog?" and "why this and not King Crimson's Epitaph?"
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Originally posted by BasedProgger BasedProgger wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

It's been a LONG time since I've listened to Judas Priest, but I always liked "Epitaph" on Sad Wings of Destiny. It was such a change of pace on an otherwise intense album and Halford's vocal is wonderful.

I was never a fan of that song. Although oddly enough I remember seeing that song on some professional greatest prog rock songs of all time list scratching my heads thinking "how is this prog?" and "why this and not King Crimson's Epitaph?"

Yes, that's strange, as the whole album is very obviously early Heavy Metal, even I'd say, not without some progressive quality.
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