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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 01:49
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Would've been nice to have had another album from this incarnation of the band instead of the arena rock that Rabin infused the band with on 90210 (not that it's a bad album, just a bit too 'straight')


Well, Fly from Here is in a way the next album from this incarnation... if you consider it has another singer and was released about 30 years later... but at least Horn is the producer also, and they brought back some of the songs written in the 80's but left unused, which might perhaps made it to the second album if they had gone on with it. Actually, I believe they could have made a much better album out of Drama if they had chosen better the songs they would work with on it. Mainly, if they had kept "Machine Messiah" (and for me, also "White Car" and "Run to the Light", though most wouldn't agree with me I believe), and if they had worked back then the 3 songs that ended up being in the Fly from Here suite (I think all 3 of them had been worked since back then), plus there was another live song I heard on "The Word is Live" album which would have been nice on the album too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 10:05
Fly From Here was the most underwhelming album Yes had released since the one-two "meh" punch of Talk and Open Your Eyes. The best part of the album is (coincidentally?) the only one you can still hear Oliver Wakeman on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 12:52
Not very high on my list of Yes albums but it does have some nice things on it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 15:19
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Fly From Here was the most underwhelming album Yes had released since the one-two "meh" punch of Talk and Open Your Eyes. The best part of the album is (coincidentally?) the only one you can still hear Oliver Wakeman on.

Completely agree with you here. I actually like "Heaven & Earth" a lot more. At least that was original. "Fly from Here" was incredibly dull and sounded exactly like dredged up material that didn't make the cut decades earlier. After hearing that album I was convinced it was time for Yes to finally retire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 16:13
I gave up on them creatively some years back HT, every band has to hit the wall sometime I suppose. However I've heard they still deliver the goods bigtime live. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 11:14
I rented a copy from my local library and I think it's nice, especially "Machine Messiah", "Does It Really Happen?" and "Tempus Fugit". Plus, it has one of Roger Dean's best album covers.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 11:40
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I rented a copy from my local library and I think it's nice, especially "Machine Messiah", "Does It Really Happen?" and "Tempus Fugit". Plus, it has one of Roger Dean's best album covers.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 14:52
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Don't like it at all. To me, it sounds like a Buggles album with some ex-Yes people guesting (somewhat awkwardly and out of place) on a couple of songs. I can't find anything wrong with any of its components per se, but somehow they do not crystallize into a good album. 
  I thought we were talking about Drama, not Fly From Here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 15:09
It's a good album, not great, and its quality can be weighed independently of Anderson's absence.  Horn and Downes did a fine job.  It suffers only from a couple of so-so tracks (I'm thinking of "Into the Lens" , "Run Through the Light" and "White Car").  I'm a huge fan of "Does it Really Happen" - my favorite Yes song post-GFTO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 23:43
Don't understand why many diss Into The Lens......
.......I love it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 09:45
Horn's delivery on that song came off as twee and precious. Thank goodness for its backing vocals to even things out. A valiant effort, nonetheless. By the way, I wish Anderson would have approached some of Drama's songs live; it would have been interesting to hear his particular stylings on them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 09:48
Drama is a weird one - I wish they'd called it Cinema.  It just didn't sound like Yes when it came out - no more folksy melodies, no more Howe acoustic-electric mix, Squire sounds good but....different.  All in all, it's probably my favorite post-Relayer Yes album, but it never clicks with me as a true Yes album.  Not only the fact that Jon isn't there, it's deeper.  Just the whole approach to the music threw me off.
 
Solid 3/5 but....not Yessy enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 23:22
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

Drama is a weird one - I wish they'd called it Cinema.  It just didn't sound like Yes when it came out - no more folksy melodies, no more Howe acoustic-electric mix, Squire sounds good but....different.  All in all, it's probably my favorite post-Relayer Yes album, but it never clicks with me as a true Yes album.  Not only the fact that Jon isn't there, it's deeper.  Just the whole approach to the music threw me off.
 
Solid 3/5 but....not Yessy enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 23:31
For me, Drama is as the title suggests a Drama, over time I did grow to appreciate it for what it is, a nice album, but like mentioned above they should have called the band cinema, than it would have been less disturbing. Of course Cinema is post Drama and pro-Beverly Hills 90210, but they should have called it thussly nonthebetter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:24
Could have gone for Yeggles 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:54
.......or Squire, Howe and White joined Buggles for their 2nd album 'Drama'
.........or maybe not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 07:29

Cinema or no Cinema - it doesn't sound like Yes.  But it is a solid record.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 20:40
Five stars any day of the week, one of the best early 80s British albums

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 20:44
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

I rented a copy from my local library and I think it's nice, especially "Machine Messiah", "Does It Really Happen?" and "Tempus Fugit". Plus, it has one of Roger Dean's best album covers.



awwww man! MY local library doesn't have that and other Yes albums, and that is a shame! and, er, yes (hehe), im a fan of it myself, Machine Messiah being my favorite followed by the first song i heard from the album and the first without Mr. Jon Anderson, Tempus Fugit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2014 at 23:01
Lots of love for this wonderful album !! Good to see.
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