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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18585 |
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Hi, I'm not sure how I think/feel about it, but I do remember folks thinking (around me in Madison, WI a very big university town!!!! AND very cool!) that it was some art rock, but the thing that confused many folks, was that only two songs had a similar/same sound and the rest was experimental, at best ... it really gave the idea of ART ROCK a huge push, as it showed that some other experimental things could be done with music. I always thought that perhaps, The Moody Blues, The Nice, Procol Harum, Electric Prunes (for example) were really on the side of classical music, or at least doing something that made it more intelligent and classical, instead of bubble gum pop music, which is what radio (in America) was at that time, at the beginning of the rise of FM radio. PF, did not get as much attention until AFTER Syd Barrett, the story that really had folks going ... wow ... and the band having to change to something else, made it clear that a Syd Barrett mold was not possible to continue anyway, ripped or not, as Syd did not know chords or notes, and played by the sound and the feel he felt and heard (per Robert Wyatt!!!) ... which is not exactly sustainable in the long run in terms of continuing, at least in this very case! While I'm not sure that KC's album deserves the idea/thought that it was one of the first, I do think that the artistry in the music and the open-ness of the new FM radio in America made for things to be done, that were new ... and it helped bring us a lot of music, which made it tougher to decide which one was first ... I don't think there was a "first", per se, as the music had been changing and developing ... we don't even go around saying that Chuck Berry was the first either that helped make the guitar (and poor subject matter) and songs known on rock radio which was at that time the worst bubble gum and crap music, with nothing to say. All of a sudden, some folks changed that tune! And the next 5 or 6 years, completely blew out the AM Radio format in America for a while until the FM radio band thing died down when the independent stations were all bought by corporate America. I think there is too much that created a problem to DECIDE which album was first and some ideas think this is the one, and other ideas think that something else is the one! ... it's not as simple as that from our point of view some 50 (or more) years later! Edited by moshkito - 15 hours 44 minutes ago at 06:23 |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13369 |
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Context. Perspective. Ignoring all the smarmy, pompous, incredibly prolix nonsense, we should read the OP's entire comment:
"What was the first Album that is prog and not proto-prog. Is their an album that invented the basic of Prog rock or was it a slow evolution and the wasn't a clear jump from Proto prog to prog. So what is the first real prog album." So, given the full context of what the OP said, we are going to ignore "proto-prog", a genre of rock found generally in the 1960s, the precursor to albums that can be considered fully "progressive rock", and also shelve albums that were "progressive" but not rock (i.e., Varèse or Miles Davis). Therefore, sticking with rock, we are going to drop proto-prog albums like Days of Future Passed, S.F. Sorrow, Shine On Brightly, Sgt. Peppers, etc. I would suggest one of the following... The Nice - Ars Longa Vita Brevis (November, 1968) The Soft Machine - Volume Two (September, 1969) Frank Zappa - Hot Rats (October, 1969) or King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (October, 1969) And of the four, I would suggest that King Crimson's had, by many measures, successfully navigated away from psychedelia or jazz to formulate a blueprint for progressive rock that was neither psych nor jazz-fusion. Argue amongst yourselves, or editorialize ad nauseam. |
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