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Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, 2112, Hemispheres, Brain Salad Surgery and Sgt Peppers aren't concept albums.

I said disagree, largely because I'm not a that big a fan of The Wall and haven't heard a number of albums off of the list. 
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 True to extend 2112, Hemispheres and Brain as other songs on the album  are completely unrelated to the plot of the suite. However, I do think because their little track is realated to the suite it  cab be consider a concept album I think!
 almost forgot Sgt Peper is a concept album all right through. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band  follow the link.


Just justifying my last post.

I think a concept album needs an underlying theme (or, concept, if you will), even if it isn't telling a story. 2112, Hemispheres, and BSS don't meet this criterion. The shorter pieces on BSS have, as far as I can tell, no relation to KE-9. Similarly, there is no real relation between 2112 and Tears, or Cygnus X-I book II: Hemispheres and La Villa Strangiato, for instance.

It's not a matter of plot, really, but I cannot see much relation to the shorter bits without trying desperately hard to stretch a concept specifically to fit it. Even then, I still can't find any possible links between Benny The Bouncer or Still... You Turn Me On to KE-9.
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  1. The Wall. Lame. Explained why in other thread. Boring, semi-logical concept, lyrical filler.
  2. The lamb Lies Down on Broawday. Minor spelling details aside, absolutely. Brilliant album, dealing with an interesting and ambiguous overall story, while giving nods to issues. Very lyrically clever.
  3. Thick as  Brick. Don't know. Really only a concept in its parodic nature of the epic poem. Themes of youth overpowering old. Not sure its a dead-set concept. Great album, certainly, and I admit that the concept and feel adds to it. Might have given A Passion Play the nod.
  4. Tales From the Topografic Oceans. Hm, probably. I have difficulty confronting it as a concept because the lyrics are rather diffuse. Some brilliant textures and atmospheres, some slips, an overall theme. Very good album.
  5. Dark side of the Moon. I'll give you that one. Perhaps more partial to WYWH (even if less concepty) and Animals, myself.
  6. Day The Future Passed. Semi-concept. Good album, rather than great. Always had problems with the jumpier moments being rather too frequent. Additionally, given that the concept is a little *difficult* to quantify (and it was named by the label, not the band), I'm uncertain whether it qualifies.
  7. Tommy. Some weak lyrical choices, plenty of essentially concept-unrelated material (Pinball Wizard having maybe a line of relevance). Not exactly my thing.
  8. 2112. Not exactly a concept album. There's one concept song and a side of entirely unrelated, as far as I can tell, material. I love it (to a four star level), but Tears and Something For Nothing, for instance, bear no relation to each other.
  9. Brian Salad Surgery. It's not a concept album. Not even close, in my opinion. One concept song, with a main weakness in not really tying together the components (I fail to see how the second really relates to the other two, really). Absolutely great album, but again, it's just not a concept album.
  10. Hemipheres. Not a concept album, again. There is a concept to Hemispheres, very loosely continued from Cygnus X-I, and the remaining three bits are all good, but not connected to an over-riding concept. I consider the lyrics to Hemispheres a little awkward, but I like it.
  11. Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band Don't know.
  12. Joe's Garage Don't know.
So. 3/10 I wouldn't even consider concept albums. 1 I'd consider dubious. 3 I'd consider not that great. So, no.

What I'd have gone for (Criteria /5, concept relevance+quality. averaged):

Still Life - Van Der Graaf Generator
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Close To The Edge (underlying theme of spiritual growth)
Dark Side Of The Moon
Animals
Three Friends - Gentle Giant
A Farewell To Kings (in my opinion, the only real Rush concept album of those I've heard)
Rubycon - Tangerine Dream (no vocals, I admit :p)
(The Planets - Holst :p)
Magma - s/t
H to He, Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator (I'm confident there's an all-pervading concept in this one. Loneliness and the need for love. Not sure everyone will agree... :) )
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Originally posted by Russian Russian wrote:

Ayreon is sadly missing from your list.  The Human Equation is an excellent concept album, and I find his others to be none too shabby too.
 sorry fella but I hadn't heard that whole album in its entire. Confused
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Ayreon is sadly missing from your list.  The Human Equation is an excellent concept album, and I find his others to be none too shabby too.
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, 2112, Hemispheres, Brain Salad Surgery and Sgt Peppers aren't concept albums.

I said disagree, largely because I'm not a that big a fan of The Wall and haven't heard a number of albums off of the list. 
wow!! you haven't?  you go shopping this weekend.
 True to extend 2112, Hemispheres and Brain as other songs on the album  are completely unrelated to the plot of the suite. However, I do think because their little track is realated to the suite it  cab be consider a concept album I think!
 almost forgot Sgt Peper is a concept album all right through. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band  follow the link.


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Errrr.... I've seen the argument for Lateralus being a concept album (not sure I agree with it though), but how exactly is Ænima a concept album?  
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To the best of my knowledge, 2112, Hemispheres, Brain Salad Surgery and Sgt Peppers arent concept albums.

I said disagree, largely because I'm not a that big a fan of The Wall and havnt heard a number of albums off of the list. 
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  1. The Wall
  2. The lamb Lies Down on Broawday
  3. Thick as  Brick
  4. Tales From the Topografic Oceans
  5. Dark side of the Moon
  6. Day The Future Passed
  7. Tommy
  8. 2112
  9. Brian Salad Surgery
  10. Hemipheres
  11. Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band
  12. Joe's Garage
After the 70's?
  1. Metropolis Part II:Scenes From A Memory Dream Theater
  2. The Perfect Element Pain of Salvation
  3. Ok Computer Radiohead
  4. Operation Mindcrime Queensrÿche
  5. Misplaced Childhood marillion
  6. Latelarus Tool
  7. Be pain of salvation
  8. A New mythology Symphony X
  9. Aenima Tool
  10. Second Life Syndrome riveside
  11.  Fear of A Black Planet  PT yeap! their last album
  12. the visitor Arena

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