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imo rick beato is alright
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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

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On YT...SOAL (Story Of A Life) Night Live. A Musical talk show.


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Some Beato's interviews are nice and insightful, but I also prefer channels like SOAL which just go somewhat deeper. When it comes to his music explanations, even though being musician myself, I am not into listening to pathologists of music, who attempt to dissect songs (written by others) like corpses. I am neither fond of this likely ego-driven hype style displayed for example in his "What makes this song great". (especially when it comes to 'brilliant' compositions such as Smoke on the Water). Sounds like he's got the license to tell you that. I think every listener can figure out such thing, whether/why he likes/dislike the song. I understand it's a business, he makes it for living and he's talented and skilled in what he does. Just my preference and thought.



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Some Beato's interviews are nice and insightful, but I also prefer channels like SOAL which just go somewhat deeper. When it comes to his music explanations, even though being musician myself, I am not into listening to pathologists of music, who attempt to dissect songs (written by others) like corpses. I am neither fond of this likely ego-driven hype style displayed for example in his "What makes this song great". (especially when it comes to 'brilliant' compositions such as Smoke on the Water). Sounds like he's got the license to tell you that. I think every listener can figure out such thing, whether/why he likes/dislike the song. I understand it's a business, he makes it for living and he's talented and skilled in what he does. Just my preference and thought.


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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Utterly pointless and totally uneeded (I mean, who gives a hoot about who set up the mics??)... made just to occupy the terrain and keep the revenues coming in.Doh!
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Sometimes this is the part of things that are scary ... and you know it's not exactly about the music, as much as it is how it ends up sounding different. And how, we think that "different" is better and that hearing Bonzo's drumming in that one house ... and anything else that can be thought of ... 

But we have been at this for some time ... Stokowski used to shift the orchestra seating arrangements to make sure he got the touch he wanted for some sections of the recording, and this, of course, later showed up HUGE in works by Bernard Herrmann and his soundtracks.

For hundreds of years there was no changes to the sound, other than maybe hiding it behind a panel kind of thing, so the music was clean in terms of a natural sound, but these days this is not the case, and it one of the reasons why I like to say ... UNPLUG IT ... and then let's hear it, and I think that we will end up not liking that much ... which makes me think that we have been white washed by the fiddling of sounds for the last 65 years, and hopefully this will slow down enough so we can learn to hear the actual music, not the sound ... it's not exactly the same thing.

However, there are a lot of things that we have heard ... and they are really fine things ... and trickery or not, it helped things, however, this is always an issue for some folks ... they won't sound half as good in concert, and likely won't play some things because of it.
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IMHO

Utterly pointless and totally uneeded (I mean, who gives a hoot about who set up the mics??)... made just to occupy the terrain and keep the revenues coming in.Doh!

It's about 15 minutes too long , too!! Satisfied Good Badass LOL (Laughing Out Loud)
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Rick has a pretty interesting YouTube channel, and he even manages to bring in some rather prestigious guests! I find his content quite entertaining, and every now and then, you get to learn a thing or two about the artists he interviews, so that’s a win for me!
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

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So you think Rick Beato isn’t passionate about music anymore? Come on, it's been essential in his life ever since his childhood. 
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Hi,

I think it is pretty clear that he loves what he is doing, and I find his choices rather interesting, also sticking with engineers and other side folks in the business, that in many ways, did some things with the work that helped us remember these things today.

The one thing I like the most is his appreciation for some of the beauty in a lot of folks' work, and his appreciation for some of the things that CHICAGO did, is far out, and rare. Even DD can't do that, and normally goes back to chords and notes, which is boring after a while. I always thought of music as way more than just notes and chords.

The knowledge, however, and this probably does not apply to RB, is that he does not go to the easiest thing to do, which DD does all the time, since he does not "feel" the music as well, without knowing the notes and chords ... and one thing that is important, though a lot of the history of music for hundreds of years, has been the explanation how the theory was extended, and it is always explained as a chord or special moment, but if all you do describing Stravinsky in this style, no audience would be out there and even Walt Disney would not have created a silly cartoon that was far out, or Bruno Bozzetto would not have created the imagery that he did for his far out take on FANTASIA ... and in some ways, it is the visual effect of the music that makes the history and continuously brings us to it ... not the notes or chords.

RB is great in my book, although I think that some folks he did were not exactly special for me, but they were OK, and the best example was DG which made for a very boring hour, speaking about an album that is not that great but his name makes it look like it is special, but he is loved by many folks in the last 50 years, so I suppose that it is OK to gush over it all, and anything they do.

It's interesting to see who RB will do next ... his choices, generally, are interesting, though some of them I tend to bypass completely. And, in general, I prefer not to comment on things I did not enjoy as much as others.


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I think there's quite a few unfair and plain dumb takes here. I mean what I love doing is also my job - and I'm certainly not in just for the money. So you think Rick Beato isn’t passionate about music anymore? Come on, it's been essential in his life ever since his childhood. I don't doubt for a second that while his channel has become his job (and some days at work are more fun and inspiring than others) - Beato loves interviewing his musical heroes. Otherwise he wouldn't be as good at it. He seem to be enjoying himself while dissecting the current top ten, looking at statistics, talking about his days in the music business and things like that as well. Reducing another knowledgable person success like some of you do, make you the cynical one. Not them.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

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He may only ask Roy Harper about his involvement with WYWH, because the viewers would connect with that band and album.   

Hi,

That would be weird, when considering who one of his best friends is, and has been in several of his albums, and not exactly in the background. 

It's about the context, and how it is handled. 

I think that just about anyone, is capable of being a good review and story, but things are kinda controlled by the commerciality of it all, and while I certainly don't think that some of those folks RB does is bad at all, there are a lot of neat things ... his 2 shows on CHICAGO are excellent examples, and you know that he is a very capable listener, which is the reason why I don't think he would have a hard time with other folks ... and you never know, and one or two of them would make a heck of a show. 

I was just thinking of Daevid Allen, and how he would have a riot with RB ... though Daevid might have preferred to discuss his experimental stuff like the Glissando school and even some of the stuff he did with Gilly later. But Daevid, as he clarified to me, was more about how the sound developed around his words, than he was about the mechanics of the music. He specified, that you either listen to the music itself, or you don't, and not exactly just the notes and chords. It's the feel that makes it ... and RB shows it in that CHICAGO special.

It's all good, though I much prefer that a few lesser known folks were made visible. I would like to see this done with one or both of the Decamps brothers (ANGE) or even with Vittorio (BANCO), and the one that doesn't do interviews much ... Christian Vander (MAGMA) and I bet he would be a mind full and then some!

It would give a lot of credibility to progressive stuff, though I can not say that RB is just about any specific thing, he seems to travel fairly wide. Also a nice one on The Grateful Dead would be nice, now that there are only 3 of them left. 

History is a funny thing ... best bury it, I guess! I do wish that we could hear/read about the interviews that Guy Guden did, which amount to probably over 50 to 100, I am guessing, and some of them were far out and totally entertaining, and you learn more about the artist and his/her work that we can imagine. Robin Williamson comes to mind, and even hearing him tell jokes about ... !!!!


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Like I said, Beato is about musicians and how music is created. Which is why a lot of the time he is befuddled regarding today's Top 10 list. In some cases I think he is nicer than he would like to be, which is fine as he's in the public eye on YouTube.

I've learned a lot watching his channel and I like him, his interviews are some of the best around. But I don't ever expect him to interview any of the musicians that have been suggested by Pedro, simply because people don't know who they are. He may only ask Roy Harper about his involvement with WYWH, because the viewers would connect with that band and album.   
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Hi,

Some thoughts/ideas to check out (aside from RB stuff)

Ryuichi Sakamoto. I would have loved to see this same thing done with him, for example. It's not gonna happen, but the way the music in his films show up and are used, is really pretty, but I have never found, or seen anything where he can explain some of the things he did, or how he came up with it. He played, even on piano, a lot of his soundtracks themes. Several concerts on the net. His piano pieces, are mostly the film scores.

Maurice Jarre would have been an interesting one. He is the only composer to win Oscars with two very different and distinct styles of music ... the second you could say inspired by his son? And like Sir Alec Guinness, I bet he had issues with David Lean, but you and I know that David Lean allowed a lot of the music to live.

Zbigniew Preisner deserves a nice go before he passes away. Some really pretty stuff, though his time with a rocker is pretty sad ... he was in the background, just a small carpet on the floor! SAD.

Michael Nyman ... insane list of films but some really interesting stuff.

Nino Rota ... not with us anymore, but a lot of his music is remembered really well.

Zhao Jiping ... Some really fine Chinese films. Yellow Earth/Red Sorghum/Raise The Red Lantern/The Story of Qiu Ju/Farewell, My Concubine/Red Firecracker, Green Firecracker/To Live/The Emperor and the Assassin just to name a few ... a lot of Zhang Yimou films.

Eduard Artemiev ... Russian composer that has also been involved in electronics. Passed away a few years back. Solaris/Mirror/Stalker/House of Fools/12/Sunstroke and so many films. It's like he IS the main composer in Russian films.

Gabriel Yared ... awesome listing of films. Hanna K,/Dangerous Moves/Camille Claudel/Tatie Danielle/Vincent & Theo/The King's Whore/Map of the Human Heart/The English Patient/City of Angels/Cold Mountain

Henri Mancini ... never seen him talk about his music at all. Arabesque/Breakfast at Tiffany's/The Glass Menagerie/The Great Race/The Hawaiians/The Molly Maguires/Mommie Dearest/The Party/The Pink Panther (series)/Sometimes a Great Notion/The Thief Who Came to Dinner.


Already done and found around:

Ennio Morricone. That special on him is all you need to see. He relies more on what he can see than otherwise, it seems.

Vangelis. Lots of stuff around his work and how he created stuff on the daily pieces.

Tangerine Dream. Not sure this can be done right, since the best soundtrack they had has never been shown in its entirety (no rights!!! we have to wait 65 more years!). A lot of films, though some had their music badly used. I don't think that anyone in the family or group can say a lot about the soundtracks. Jerome might have an interesting perspective but he won't talk about his father, etc, etc ... The current band, and specially TQ, are not exactly the right folks to discuss it ... they can play it, but I doubt they can describe it and talk about it from Edgar's visual point of view. No one around the family is as "visual" at all.

Mark Isham. Lots of stuff on him on the Internet. Some nice stuff.

These are probably the ones I remember the best, though I am probably missing several.


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Hans Zimmer ...

Nice. Really nice. A lot of details that are actually very helpful to people that "create" music .... and a good primer to the idea of creating a piece of music ... you can go empty with no idea or visual, and then you can go in by watching something. I did not realize that he was one of the first to go electronic early ... nice stuff, though in my book not great, and sadly, what he got for BR2 was not very good.

The only problem with the visual thing is that things have to mix or at least marry in a positive way that makes the whole thing more attractive, and this is where a lot of rock music thinks that the lyrics will do it for them, and then just keep the same drum beat and riff going. And within a psychic level, that usually goes in very different directions which will not help the "attraction" for the viewer.  It's nice to see that Hans is aware of that, though he likes to do it without any visual, though he says he likes to hear the story ... although in many films the story is ... you got it ... where?


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He's had some really good videos fairly recently






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Love it when CHICAGO is appreciated. In all these years going way back, I have kept those first 7 or 8 albums and loved them a lot, and I really think they were a nice band that should be enjoyed and appreciated a lot more on PA ... and seeing it talked about and shown for some of its great work, is far out.

The show with the 2 Doors is fantastic and also appreciated. And it was more than just about the chords, as you got a great feel for the time and space, something that doesn't exist today much ... but seeing this, is neat.

Now, it would be nice if RB gave the Grateful Dead a nice go as well ... no band deserves more than they do!

Other than that, at least RB does not mention some this or that in the music with chord names to make it look like they know music, like DD does ... Rb seems to appreciate the ability of how the moment was used and in those 2 CHICAGO segments, he shows it really well, specially explaining something that is hard for us all to imagine ... this is a keyboard thing ... this is a guitar thing. Even DD is not good enough to know when talking about the music, other than the "theory" of it all ... at least RB knows that the "theory" is not what the great music is all about, and he shows you details in it that are magnificent ... I like RUSH, but not exactly a fan, but hearing him mention some of the details, adds a touch to the appreciation that is not common, and folks like DD don't have, because all he can do is compare it to theory and call it weird, or equivalent.

I would not mind having had a chance to learn playing from RB. But DD would have flunked me because I would not be interested in the "theory" at all ...but in the flow of things, and how I could learn to remember each and every moment. I don't think DD thinks that can be done without the "theory" ... and I don't think that the history of music is about the "theory" at all, and this is what rock and jazz brought to the table from the 1960's on ... we need to remember that ... Miles, as a great example, is not about "theory" ... it's about touch and feel ... all of it, and we loved many in those days that did that, specially 3 that passed away and we still remember them with great appreciation. For them, it was not the theory ... it was the feel and the touch!



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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

The interview with Rick Wakeman is one of his best.


That was one of the best guests he has interviewed. Love the story about the harpsichord and the Queen. Of course, Wakeman is always entertaining. Some are not so good, such as Beato's interview of Dave Gilmour, which was quite dull.

Overall I like Beato. His music theory breakdown of songs, I have always liked. Most of his interviews tend to be quite good. Steve Lukather is another one that comes to mind. But, then Luke is always a good interview. For some other good interviews of Lukather, check out the Sunset Sound Studio interviews. Lukather has some funny stories, especially about Prince.


Wakeman can read Wikipedia and have me ROTF. His two Grumpy books are loaded with recollections that run the gamut from amusing to hysterically funny (more of those, for sure). I'm hoping for a third volume.

The "What Makes This Song Great?" series is what got my attention. I enjoy his breakdowns.
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I have noticed his bias toward men and toward the 1970s.

TBF, most of the artists in the (prog) music business are men. And since he focuses on (classic) rock and jazz/fusion, most of his favorite artists are from the 70s.
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He's had some really good videos fairly recently







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I learn so much from Rick Beato videos. He knows his stuff--knows the output of his guests that he's interviewing--and yet they are NOT "buds" that he hangs out with or has personal relationships with which makes the interviews far more interesting cuz he's as curious as we are and as surprised about the answers to his questions! 
I have noticed his bias toward men and toward the 1970s.

My favorite YouTube vid maker, however, is Andy Edwards. I love his "showmanship" and his fearlessness in broaching "sensitive" topics: provoking thought and reaction with his "wild" opinions and theories. At the same time, he, too, knows his music: he knows the drums! The rhythms! And he's willing to listen to and talk about 21st Century artists and themes. Plus, he led me to discover Hermann Szobel and Knower!
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The interview with Rick Wakeman is one of his best.

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