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Poll Question: What is Frank Zappa's greatest Jazz-Rock recording?
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    Posted: May 02 2007 at 02:10
personally The Grand Wazoo is the best one, but i love One Size Fits All, Waka/Jawaka Make A Jazz Noise Here, and Sleep Dirt
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Absolute choice: Hot Rats. Best "ever" FZ recording IMHO... I believe many who listened to at least the "essential" FZ recordings will agree...
Though Waka Jawaka and Grand Wazoo come close (Hot Rats Pts. 2 & 3 for many Wink), they're not nearly majestic as this grandoise album, again, IMHO...
 
P.S. Some albums in the list, especially Uncle Meat and Burnt Weeny Sandwich, sound more avant/garde than Jazz Rock...


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Loads of people are always telling me that they love HOT RATS, but in spite of a few great moog solos, I don't find it a very exciting album. THE GRAND WAZOO is far more colourful.

ONE SIZE FITS ALL is superb as well, but in my opinion it's unadulterated SYMPHONIC PROG - and one of the masterpieces in the genre!
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My favourite is The Grand Wazoo, but the greatest IMO is Hot Rats.
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I won't play the underdog on this one as i like very much ''THE GRAND WAZOO''Thumbs%20Up
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Grand Wazoo



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"Waka jawaka" and "Gran wazoo" in term of technical virtuosity and musical achievment.

Burnt weeny sandwich is a must, in a contemporan mood, with some sublime guitar solos.






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Uncle Meat: This double album is pretty much classic Zappa and the Mothers until you get to the 18 minutes or so of "King Kong".  You are then transferred into the world of jazz as interpreted by Frank Zappa (which is amazingly fairly straight-up and great).
 
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One Size Fits All but I wouldn't call it Jazz Rock perse.
Close though.

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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My favorite Zappa era,and I love Waka/Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo but imo Hot Rats is absolute brilliance.


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ONE SIZE FITS ALL!!!  Zappa is way underrated on this site!
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Well, if you put Hot Rats on the poll, it's going to win. LOL
 
Though there are some other great ones on that list, I too, will have to go with Hot Rats on this one.
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Hot Rats for sure. It was my first Zappa and first Jazz-Rock album, and a revelation for me. The Grand Wazoo comes closest. Uncle Meat and Waka/Jawaka seem to come close as well, though I haven't listened to either that much yet. Jazz From Hell and One Size Fits All are also very good, but I don't think One Size Fits All is a great representation of Zappa's jazz-rock side. 
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One Size Fits All.
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One Size Fits All!!!Thumbs%20Up
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some people have been saying BWS is more avant-guard than jazz-rock. though it is, there are so many songs and sections of songs that are great early jazz-rock (1969 i believe) one has to understand Zappa melded many styles of music in his albums, so even Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo, One Size Fits All and Uncle Meat has many different things going on, although heavily influenced by the jazz-rock style. thus why these albums are on the list
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IMHO, Zoot Allures is not a jazz rock album. In some ways it's as close to reasonably conventional, accessible heavy rock as Zappa ever got up to then, though I still like it and the two instrumentals are great. I think perhaps 'Roxy And Elsewhere' or 'Zappa In New York' might have fitted in better though- if the latter was on the poll it would have got my vote, it really is phenomenal.
 
Of what's here, I'll pick 'The Grand Wazoo' though.
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It is indeed interesting that a great album such as Waka Jawaka got "zero" votes out of the 31 so far! I could have picked that one, if it wasn't for Hot Rats... (of course, Grand Wazoo would have been a strong rival Wink)
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Hawt Ratz!  The best thing Zappa ever did, and that's saying something.  

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Originally posted by Bilek Bilek wrote:

It is indeed interesting that a great album such as Waka Jawaka got "zero" votes out of the 31 so far! I could have picked that one, if it wasn't for Hot Rats... (of course, Grand Wazoo would have been a strong rival Wink)
 
It would be my No. 2 choice. However, when originally released  Hot Rats  was heard to be particularly radical wrt music, arrangement, playing etc. (Have to remember Hot Rats charted in the UK and got poorer response in the US originally - further fueling Zappa's love/hae thing witht eh Brits). Having been informed by the UK musical press then, that the handful of jazz rock bands already there were "jazz rock" , I admit we greeted this with only limited agreement, trying resolve what the term meant for ourselves. On hearing Hot Rats for the first time, many rock fans I knew said "Hey now that what I call jazz rock", with a much clearer use and probably a balance use of both genres.  "Willy The Pimp" was probably the odd ball tune - having so recently heard Aynsley Dunbar's cover, I'm reminded of the tune's blues base. Waka Jawaka is probably a more consistently jazz rock album.
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