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Posted: May 23 2014 at 06:45
Mirror Image wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Because similar can be good too!!
Well, I don't want similar, I want to hear a band that is pushing the envelope and doing their own thing. Of course, the great prog bands influenced so many others, but it takes some time for a band to shake off their influences and some, unfortunately, never do. As to whether I like this or that band is, of course, subjective from one listener to the next.
Let's support this request for "similar" if one considers Crimson has only discovered a part of its own planet and we want to see the rest of the place.
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Posted: May 25 2014 at 04:06
Mirror Image wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Because similar can be good too!!
Well, I don't want similar, I want to hear a band that is pushing the envelope and doing their own thing. Of course, the great prog bands influenced so many others, but it takes some time for a band to shake off their influences and some, unfortunately, never do. As to whether I like this or that band is, of course, subjective from one listener to the next.
100% agree. This is a right point IMO. Many bands go over "Similar" and make "COPY"!! and many of these Copies may be good but I don't like Copies and I think they are unvaluable.
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Posted: May 25 2014 at 12:04
Part of the problem is that there is only one Robert Fripp. I really have never known another guitar player like him, he's in a class of his own.
I've known players who could play complex Yes music note-for-note, but no guitarist I've met has been able to play Fripp's break in "Fracture"! I bet a few could, perhaps Goods or Fareed Haque.
My bud John Goodsall did this very nice cover of "Red"! Check him out!
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Posted: May 25 2014 at 21:35
Back in 1977 Kunio Suma was arguably playing it as good as Fripp...But the band he played in did imitate preexisting styles from earlier Crimson rather than invent its own, so he wouldn't get nearly as well known as the original composer...
Jazz virtuosos are all likely to play it as neatly as RF but once assured of their abilities, they'd hardly get fascinated by Fripp's solo and persona the same way as if they'd discovered Fracture before they learnt advanced guitar playing.
They'd rather go like "Uh-oh a plectrum master that went out of tradition to play in an unusual context". They might dismiss Fripp's solos as being part of too unbalanced, ill-driven or raw music for them.
Renderings of Fracture's moto perpetuo appear and disappear on the net here and then. How 'bout that one:
And Lark's Tongues...
Are they willing to discover yet unheard magnetically contrasting mixes of musical ingredients as well ?...
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