Rd 1 Portland Bracket: Camel v. Diablo Swing Orch
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Topic: Rd 1 Portland Bracket: Camel v. Diablo Swing Orch
Posted By: micky
Subject: Rd 1 Portland Bracket: Camel v. Diablo Swing Orch
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 08:44
From the symphonic conference we have one of the ..umm.. popular groups of the 70's who remain popular for never having produced a masterpiece or having any importance or influence in prog rock, and having the infamy of recruiting one of the great voices in all prog, then continuing to let one of the worst singers in prog continue to sing.  From England f**kING CAMEL!!!!! From the experimental prog metal conference we have one of the most popular and creative bands of the new wave of progressive metal From Sweden DIABLO SWING ORCHESTRA!!!! Vegas oddmakers have installed Swing Diablo as a slight 5 vote favorite but can Camel pull the upset? Hell they beat ELP last time around, the Camel army have shown they can upset nearly band with far superior talent and better music ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 08:47
While I actually like Camel (way better than Genesis anyway ), they cannot hold a candle to DSO's creativity. They are one of those rare bands that transcend subgenre labels, and have a potentially huge crossover appeal. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 08:49
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No contest. Even the Camel I do like rarely gets played. Can't get enough Diablo!! ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 08:54
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I could have doubts only if Camel vs Yes or Pink Floyd. A thought for Guy LeBlanc: win your battle! ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 08:59
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I like the few classic Camels I have (s/t through Moonmadness) but a lot of their discography is pretty mixed. I love everything released by DSO, they're a bizarre clash of styles that works beautifully. I do have reservations about their latest track and the loss of Annlouice Loegdlund on vocals. I await with trepidation. DSO. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:01
Have you tried Rajaz? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:02
I've been out of the current news loop. I hadn't heard that. The news or the latest track.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:06
Not yet, I'll try it today, thanks for the reco  ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:11
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no contest here. I do enjoy some of Camel's stuff in particular the first couple albums, but DSO is a completely different level of awesomeness and whose music is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:20
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I'd rather smoke a Camel cigarette than listen to a Camel album. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:25
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Can't stand Camel, love DSO. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:46
Here comes the army  |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:58
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DSO ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:00
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I grew up with Camel, and they were my first concert in 1982 at age 13. DSO is a good sounding band, from the 2-3 songs I've heard, and I plan to add them to my collection, but Camel's legacy is a huge hump to get over for my vote. ^ ha ha Camel ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:09
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I'm shocked this is even close but what do I know. CAMEL by a thousand humps. Not sure if that was appropriate. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:29
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The ship of the desert ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 11:17
 ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 11:20
| It's harsh to strike down Diablo, but Camel. Love 'em both, but would really want to see dat Camel v. ELP showdown. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 11:27
Most or all of this is true but I love them anyway. The little I've heard of DSO is exactly the kind of whacked out and "fun" prog metal that I can't stand. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 11:28
| CAMEL by far. From their first album to their last. Camel is underrate band in PA (IMO) and I don't know why!! Camel have different styles in their career and their music have good potential to find more fans with different taste but this not happened. Maybe "Stationary Travelers" find more fans. I highly recommend to younger Prog Rock fans to listen to RAJAZ. I'm sure you can find amazing stuffs in this album. |
Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 12:24
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Easiest vote yet for me. Camel by a mile - one of my faves. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 12:37
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Camel. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 12:52
| I don't know DSO but I doubt I will like them more than Camel. No vote. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 12:53
| Camel, but just Mirage. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 14:11
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Camel. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 14:16
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Camel. Best band ever. Period. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 15:02
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DSO sounds like a cool band, but Camel... When I was twenty years younger, I thought they were second division, compared to prog giants as Genesis, Yes and ELP. Not so anymore! Camel is a growing diamond. Their music gets better after decades of listening. Like an excellent wine. They are now my favorite band after Yes, maybe even rivalling them.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 16:07
1) 2 albums in the top 25 ain't bad 2) Well, apart from Mikael Akerfeldt, Steven Wilson, Steve Rothery and Nick Barrett, obviously. Noone important. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 16:29
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don't equate the album lists here as anything other than popularity contests. You are intelligent enough to know Camel is not considered anything close to be equated to a influential group or having a truly masterpiece genre defining album. We will take this up in two weeks when ELP will lay waste to Camel. Revenge shall be MINE!! hahahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 16:37
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Camel! -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 16:53
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Sadly it looks like there will be no Cinderella story for Diablo. You know, I wonder if a lot of the people voting for Camel have even heard them. Even so, if you like Camel then Diablo Swing Orchestra would probably be too much for you anyway.  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:00
especially for the light in their loafer Camel fans seriously though. Hopefully a few who hadn't heard of them might be inclined now to check them out. I've taken those albums to friends of mine HT who have zero prog disposition and they LOVED them. Exciting, wild, incredible. All words they described those albums with. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:09
What's this but a popularity contest, then? Which Camel are winning, like the last time when they were put up against ELP a few years ago. They are by me and many others. The Snow Goose??? ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:17
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Sorry, Micky, but I vote for the camel-toe. Great to see you around again! This place has been much more bland, kind of like Camel you might say, with your absence. Now Diablo Swing Orchestra is my favourite band in Progressive Metal (never felt it fit that rather vanilla category well) -- I still haven't heard the latest -- and this is no runaway vote for Camel, but I really love A Live Record, and somehow the Snow Goose really moves me, and despite claims that's it's boring, I think the Snow Goose gets really exciting, and has a genuine beauty to it, I feel. I also like other classic Camel albums. Yeah some will disdain the use of the orchestra (classical and rock music purists alike as well as others), but I love this: |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:23
| ^ The Snow Goose live version on A Live Record is amazing. I actually prefer that one to the studio version |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:24
this contest is a popularity contest. Of course it is. The only reason Camel could have and did beat ELP. Came is easy listening. ELP is not. Camel is guitar based generic prog. ELP a quite unique take on prog. That can and has alienated a great many people. Popularity today is not everything though. ELP smokes Camel in any other category which of course I emphasize for these competitions. Far more talented, more importance more influence, more classic albums, greater PERIOD popularity et etc. The Snow Goose is a good album, beloved and popular, that is NOT the same as being considered a classic album. Even if it was, one could easily consider that ELP had 4 or 5 that easily exceeded whatever noteriety and popularity that album had. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:26
Cheers Greg! Great to see you around! You were among the handful of people we both really missed during our long vacation from the site. Forum Moderator? Nice gig. Does that mean you can ban me if I am bad.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:38
Thanks, you have been surely missed. You've brought a lot of colour, laughter, and even sense to M@XDonald's. I think I was a mod before you left, but I kept in the shadows with no title, then had myself made a regular member for a while. The only people I have or ever would ban are spammers, and they're often bots (and maybe myself once in an effort to control my PA addiction ).
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:38
so do Raff and I ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:40
ok. Just be forewarned... I plan on go going full on urban guerilla if f**king camel wins again so ..for old times sake... if I am going to get banned. I want it in the ass from you and you alone ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:44
Sure you wouldn't enjoy a little tag-team action? I think I'll bring out the steely dan, it's more hygienic.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:45
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Have I got this right? If f**king Camel comes out on top, you want it in the ass instead? *confused* ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:48
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ahhh.. the good old days of outright thread hijacking/carpet bombing. It is an art. Especially one's own threads. and yes... I'd take the Steely Dan Greg! So much poetic justice in that ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 17:52
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need to get busy filling wine bottles and making fuses.. as well as campaign signs. Camel IS going down or PA's goes down. Take your choice people. http://s5.photobucket.com/user/magnification01/media/eptkb_zps5c79a0fa.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  yes... http://s5.photobucket.com/user/magnification01/media/e3exk_zps18b762cb.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 18:07
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Anyway, back on topic. Had a bit of a listen to some Diablo and, I like , well some of it, enough to vote for them over f**king Camel. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 18:07
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Camel Live is an outstanding album, probably their best. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 18:58
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Camel ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 19:06
Funny you should mention that word.. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 20:17
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Camel ------------- |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 22:06
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To paraphrase the meme above: One does not vote for DSO above Camel! Actually one can, but I am not among those. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 03:00
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Camel. They have released a number of masterpiece albums (The Snow Goose, Moonmadness, Nude) and I have a long history with them. Of DSO I knew only the name until yesterday, but it sounds like an interesting band. ------------- 
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 09:23
| Camel!!! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 12:29
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Camel. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 13:26
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The Camel ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 15:28
Guillermo!!!!  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 15:30
and I almost picked that as the poll sample. If only I had.. perhaps things might have been... closer  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 16:03
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A little Camel influence Hessian Peel is another track featuring nylon acoustic along with the electrics. Is that an electric guitar in the intro? The intro is Hammond organ low E note and I play steel string guitar; it's just something to create a vibe and go into the next part which was somewhat influenced by the band Camel which I listened a lot to. I listened a lot to Camel when I was younger, I guess, and that little lead in the beginning was influenced by them. And then I just went into this verse or whatever you call it; it's almost like a chromatic chord progression. You can do some really interesting things with chromatic chord progressions if it changes from major to minor chords or the other way around. It's a well-used trick for any songwriter but it really worked for this one. |
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 16:22
| Never heard this DSO band before, but what I've heard is pretty sweet. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 16:47
| To the original poster who claims Camel has no importance or influence on prog rock. It is hard to prove a negative statement. On a positive note I could post many instances where Camel is cited for their influence. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 17:11
the only thing hard than proving a negative is proving fantasy is real seriously though. I suppose you could offer a list of bands that claim Camel as an influence. Have you ever done band additions and screening for this site. I did .. for years and you would not believe how many bands we ran across whose lists of influences read like.. well.. PA's database. I love Willie Nelson and was a huge influence on me as a musician and yet my music sounded nothing like his and owes no direct influence to him. Extreme example I suppose but I like the way you stepped up to the plate. Those that know me, via this site, have long figured out I am a literal user of hyperbole and a bit of overexageration. One to make points with some flair and style, and more importantly to hopefully draw out those that do not agree and get into what has always been a strong appeal to me, and what I love about my fellow collabs, is real discussion about the music. Not somply parroting what the general forum tends to do. I like x... I like y. My point is... short of making a list of bands or artists that put Camel on the wall of influences every artist has. What concrete ways do you think that Camel has influenced or left a mark on progressive rock. I don't ask antagonistically.. i mean that as an honest question. I've never seen one example of it. I'm smart Timothy.. well read on this stuff.. and have been listening and exploring NEW bands for years for this site. HOwever I am no expert. Who is, that is what we love about this. You always learn and discover if one keeps their eyes open. I don't know it all, but I know a fair bit and see ZERO real lasting influence or import with Camel. Educate me dude! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 17:20
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i vote for the lofty dromedary, i Guess, more class and quality, but Diablo Swing ORchestra is amazing as well -------------  
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:10
| I will let the outcome of your poll speak for Camel who you trashed in your opening post, I realize it is all in fun and there are no experts nor does any title at PA bestow any special expertise. Opinions remain opinions. Andy Latimer's guitar playing has been influential to many progressive artists, would you not agree? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:23
awesome. Popularity is not the question. You'd have to be an idiot to not know that Camel is not more popular than ELP.. or a good many groups for that matter. However prog fan is the first to say.. and they are right.. that popularity does NOT equate to quality. yes. It is meant for fun. What you call trashing at, I call having fun at the expense of. Nothing gives me more pleasure than getting under the skin of people with sticks up their asses. It might be prog.. but it is still music. It is meant to be enjoyed.. it is not life and death. My points at Camel's expense, I figured most would be smart enough to understand if they want to engage me on this, are not meant to denigrate the band but a fun campaign lasting all these years leading up to a friendly, yet chippy, rematch with ELP. all in fun. It makes the site more enjoyable. However the question remains if you want to have a real discussion. Latimer was an EXCELLENT guitar player in a genre filled to the gills with them. No more influential than .. maybe 30 or 40. He is good, Jeff Beck he is not. I'd like to know how Camel has made an impact and a lasting influence on prog. That is the point I have made, seeing no evidence of it, I'll admit to being wrong. However like any reasonable person, I'd like to see why I am wrong before admitting to it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:31
| I do not need you to be wrong |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:34
then sit back and enjoy the flames as I pour gasoline all over your beloved group ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:49
| I am really frightened |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 18:56
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I do not need you to be frightened ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:03
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Thanks, i was scared |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:13
I just wanted to see if you had some something more in your head than man-love for the group. Fun is good, learning and having fun is better. Camel is more popular no doubt, however I wouldn't be a good ELP ultra if I didn't look for other reasons to sway the undecided. One can argue and strongly argue ELP has every other quality over Camel other than aging gracefully and remaining popular today. That is the point I am trying to make. For fun? Sure, but yes, with a bit of seriousness underneath. As collaborators we didn't get to pick and choose based on what we liked or not. You had to analyze the music itself. There is a good discussion to be had there. I thought you might be the one. Perhaps when the thread kicks off it can get hashed out there. Anyhow you aren't the first.. nor surely the last to not like me. Trust me, its just the internet. In real life you'd never meet a more shy or unassuming person. I'll ever we meet I'll buy you the first round if we ever meet. Hopefully before you go Camel on my ass and knock me out ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:30
| Who said I don't like you. Not much into knocking people out. I happen to like DSO and Camel and tons of other bands. I am not real good at reviewing or analyzing music. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:36
I am losing my touch then. I used to be really good at pissing people off and getting under people's skins haha. This is ELP v. Camel. There has to be blood! seriously. I suck at reviewing as well but suppose I did have a thing for evaluating music. I did enjoy the time with the genre teams. I met and worked with a lot of great, and very smart people. I learned a lot from them. Something you might want to see if you can get into. A great deal of work, but fun and you do learn a lot. anyhow. The offer is still open even if I don't have to fear a sucka punch from a Camel fan hahah. First round on me. Better yet? First round on the loser? ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:40
| Well you will have to come to the Best Coast, I mean west coast where party favors are now legal |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:44
whoot! next summer! I am Portland Or. born and bred enslaved for now on the east coast. Raff has never been west of the Appalachians and I promised her a west coast vacation next summer. I haven't been back to the PNW since the early 80's myself. Looking really forward to that trip to see how much things have changed. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:51
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I remember reacting very unfavourably to the DSO I'd heard, so Camel easily. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:51
| How can you stand it? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:54
what didn't you like? any particular reason? out of curiosity. It is a group I've seen a wide range of people, prog fans and non-prog fans really like. Actually met very few that didn't like them now that I think of it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:55
assuming to me stand what? ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 19:59
I'm gonna take a small re-listen now and get back to ya. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:00
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Being away from the best coast |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:03
 not trying to put you on the spot or anything like that haha. Again, I haven't met many who haven't liked them so sort of curious to hear from one who might not. That ol' curiousity thing. No hurry.I love this one in particular. My favorite from the latest album. They have a such brilliant mix of so many influences and styles in their music. Like HT said.. I simply can't enough of this group. A bit of a modern revelation. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:12
that's what I thought you were getting at. It is where life dropped me and probably best for me to be now. Raff needs the highly concentrated european flavor of this area. She doesn't drive, has always been a city dweller and of course her specialty is language instrucion. No better place than that than Washington DC. I do like it here. It is a bit fun with west best coast values and upbringing living on the least coast. Amazingly enough it is the people here I get the most kick out of. I don't smoke dope anymore but suppose I still have enough left in my system I keep cool and chill while the people here are in such a f**king hurry to do everything and get everywhere in a hurry and everything is so damn important. I am a people watcher, always have been, always will be. I get a kick of watching sweet old ladies yelling out car windows ..words that make even me blush.. and flipping the bird to people only doing 70 in a 65. Good times. that and I am also a history buff and especially a civil war buff.. I love to recharge my batteries by visiting any of the many battlefields within a couple of hours of where I am and just reflecting on the meaning of things. I do like the east coast, but I miss, always have missed the west coast. I know Raff will love it as well. I'm really looking forward to showing her the beauty of the west coast, and finally meeting some of our PA's friends on the west coast. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:17
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Let me know when you land I am just 3 fine Camel albums from Portland. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:23
Cheers! Will do. I'm sure when we finalize dates and plans we'll ..go Micky on it.. the full thread over exploitation of it to the max. Tour dates and everything I do know the Raff and Micky tour will open in S.F. We have two PA's members in particular we WILL see, have to finally meet, then from there to Portland and Seattle. I know she shares the same opinion I have of L.A.f**k L.A. We'll be spending most of our time in Portland, likely using that as our own base camp to see everything I want to show her.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 01 2014 at 20:27
No problem, it can be good to refresh in polls like these. Well, I listened to the three DSO vids in this thread and it wasn't as annoying as I thought it was gonna be, so that's a plus. I still find 'em a bit cheesy and I've never really liked symphonic metal or swing, so it's gonna be hard to get me on board in the first place. No harm in trying again, I certainly didn't loathe it. This over Dream Theater (  ) but no match for Camel, personally. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 11:19
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I know DSO completely and I like them. I never vote when I didn't listen to one of the list band or ... I pick CAMEL and I have my reasons. I don't care about influential. Music is a strange Art. You can't use your eyes for understand and enjoy music but You need your eyes for other Arts and this is great. Analyse music have many face and point of views but I think "Feeling" and "Sense" is more important than compare or ... . All of us have our tastes and opinions. I mean playing with others opinions and enjoy isn't fair. I don't like long personal discuss in music forums but I can't and I don't want to stop this. I don't read this kind of posts but never forget: PA have personal massages too!!!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 02 2014 at 13:05
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I can see a pogrom here! Go, Camel! Myself I abstain from voting here as DSO is an unknown to me. I'm tempted to support Camel but it wouldn't be honest on my side in that case. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 16:48
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Camel, but I was impressed with the samples I heard from DSO. Their way of mixing genres reminds me of Major Parkinson a bit. Quite nice. Will definitely check their albums out closer sometime. -------------  
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:00
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DSO's The Butcher's Ballroom is available as a legal free download here on the Jamendo website in case anyone is interested in checking them out further. https://www.jamendo.com/en/list/a49216/the-butcher-s-ballroom" rel="nofollow - https://www.jamendo.com/en/list/a49216/the-butcher-s-ballroom ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:45
while a win vs. Camel was perhaps a bit much to hope for, the power of the bobbleheads is indeed still powerful on this forum. DSO were picked to be in the contest for a couple of different reason, it is a favorite of some of the collabs here, one song converted 4 of us (all of very different tastes and perferences) all at the same time and place, and we felt was a great representative of modern progressive rock(metal) and we felt even perhaps in defeat a few might hopefully discover them. They really are a helluva group and one that even non prog-metal fans might really like. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:34
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You might like this Micky, it's Madder Mortem's The Purest Strain from the When Dream and Day Unite EP, one of only two songs they did in that swing metal style of DSO, but not as crazy. Saddly the other song, Jitterheart, doesnt seem to be on Youtube. Embedded video's not working for me so here's a link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NkRdxOcros" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NkRdxOcros ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:49
awesome! Thanks. I will check this out and let you know what I think! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 03 2014 at 22:55
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Camel ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 00:00
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Mirage is my fav Camel album. Beautiful. Snow Goose is good too.. D.S.O. -haven't heard anything from them. Hence no vote. Micky, which D.S.O. album i shld listen first?? |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 00:02
| Btw i wud pick the adventure of Tarkus over beauty of Mirage anyday. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 00:13
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This is great! I can vote for a band I love and against a metal band at the same time! -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 00:15
| DSO getting trounced even more than Strawbs in the first round |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 06:11
Sing Along Songs for the Damned and Delirious is probably their best. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 08:16
loved it btw!!!! I just relistened to it. It took all of 4 seconds to tell I would putting them on my shopping list. Thanks for the head's up ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 08:29
+1 on that ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: December 04 2014 at 08:31
switch the first 2 statements and this is me as well ------------- "I know one thing: that I know nothing" - SpongeBob Socrates |