Are Progarchives.com’s mp3s legal?
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Topic: Are Progarchives.com’s mp3s legal?
Posted By: metalprogressiv
Subject: Are Progarchives.com’s mp3s legal?
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:04
Hello, everyone.
I think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and
I'm highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv
------------- "Nature inanimate employs sweet sounds, but animated nature sweeter still, to soothe and satisfy the human ear".
--William Cowper
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:08
The general rule is that the mp3s are removed if the artist in question
contacts us requesting for them to be taken off. However, some artists
who've become aware of them have in fact expressed that they see no
problem in the mp3s being available as they serve as a good "advert"
for their work. If you feel insecure downloading them then don't, but
really they're just harmless samples that are helping to spread an
appreciation and understanding of prog to an ever wider audience.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:10
Ok i use Limewire to download (to make buying decisions you understand) so where do i download from on prog archives ??
------------- Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:11
Trouserpress wrote:
The general rule is that the mp3s are removed if the artist in question contacts us requesting for them to be taken off. However, some artists who've become aware of them have in fact expressed that they see no problem in the mp3s being available as they serve as a good "advert" for their work. If you feel insecure downloading them then don't, but really they're just harmless samples that are helping to spread an appreciation and understanding of prog to an ever wider audience. |
Greatly explained, TP! 
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:14
Im HUGE flower kings fan now, cause of those downloads.
------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Posted By: metalprogressiv
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:15
Trouserpress:
Ok, I understand. Thank you very much for your reply.
metalprogressiv
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:53
horza wrote:
Ok i use Limewire to download (to make buying decisions you understand) so where do i download from on prog archives ?? |
Simple. Just go to the bio page of the band you are interested in, scroll down a bit, and check out the mp3s. To download one, right click it and choose save target as.
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Posted By: bumheed7
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 20:05
BePinkTheater wrote:
Im HUGE flower kings fan now, cause of those downloads. |
yeah, i love focus now cos of the downloads on the site, and am goin to
see them live next month. if it wasnt for progarchives then i would
have they five albums missin from my collection and one gig removed
from my upcomings.
------------- Good Morning Carpark Fans
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Posted By: uriah561
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 20:31
Yeah, those lawyers out for royalties for every free song you download. Come on, now! It's purely for the buy-making decisions. Ok, I admit, I do happen to download full albums for free, but that's only in very rare circumstances (like I can't find an album cuz it's out of print). Thank you Progarchives.com for free mp3s. I wouldn't of even known artists like Gentle Giant and Camel. Three cheers for free music!
------------- Robert G.
Chicago, Illinois
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 20:48
I think those wonderful Gentle Giant mp3s suits me a lot, since I've always been skeptical of their cd length...
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 21:17
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy
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Posted By: The Gent
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 21:36
I asked this question - originally on the Q. T. - and from the answer I got decided to do the following: I download a song and listen to it three times (four, if my wife doesn't hear it in one of the three). I then delete it. And never burn it on to a CD. This is just my rule for me.
------------- May God Bless you in all that you do.
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 21:44
"Not legal " That's a quote from M@X
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Posted By: GFoyle
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 02:18
I have bought probably over 200 albums and learned to know tons of bands
this year because progarchives and especially those mp3's.
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 02:27
Legal or not...
I have said this before, I download music like no one's business, but I
always spend the absolute maximum my budget will allow on support of
great artists (and those not so great). I have spent so much $$$ on
artists I would NEVER have heard had it not been for my exposure to
them through legal (and otherwise )
downloads. The internet has been the single greatest tool in the
advancement of progressive music, as it allows us instant access to
music from around the world we never would have heard, as our genre of
choice rarely receives radio play.
Example: I first discovered Porcupine Tree by illegally downloading
several songs on Napster years back. Since then, I have bought every
album by them I can get my hands on as well as albums by No-Man,
Blackfield, and IEM. Throw in the cost of seeing them four times (For
one show, I bought two "extra" tix and gave them to friends, just to
expose them), and Blackfield once. Add in T-shirts and I'd say that
three simple "illegal" downloads have served the financial interest of
the artist quite well. But maybe I am the exception, I'll probably end
up in jail anyway...
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Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 04:36
OK, take this. I live in a tiny hamlet in rural Australia, about 360 km from the nearest "Big Smoke". Just walk into a record store and search endlessly on sample tracks provided. There'll be not one Prog tune! Even at the stores I may not find what I am looking for - that is presuming that I know what it is...! MP3s are a great help in deciding if I may have some interest in that artist, although disappointment is not that rare, after mail-ordering an album on recommendation.
I have no problem with downloading the odd tune that - with my Internet speed of 21600 on a good day - takes me an average of 80 minutes!
I see MP3s as a valid marketing tool and the promoters couldn't agree more in their right minds. Legal, or not, we all win!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 04:54
TheProgtologist wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I
think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm
highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy |
Maybe he's a record company spy.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:12
chopper wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy
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Maybe he's a record company spy.
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maybe he can't read, so he doesn't know his question is answered already
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Posted By: oVerCaffeinated
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 09:27
I think you're allowed to make 30 second samples. Any longer without the consent of the artist is illegal.
------------- Remain calm, there is a dog in the vents.
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 10:04
Only 2 artists contacted us to remove them , 1 of them told us finally we should keep them .
------------- Prog On !
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Posted By: oldebag
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 10:04
hey ! guys! we all know what we are talking about.....It is a topic That is understood better when NOT discussed in a public forum. No confessions from me-But without hearing and reading about these artists, I would have been totally ignorant of the globalstretch of progressive music. There are" factions" , that, would rather dictate what I should listen to and like[buy]....by not creating access to this art unless they profit directly! [ sorry -I got carried away- wrong thread] BUT, you get the point.
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 12:29
GFoyle wrote:
I have bought probably over 200 albums and learned to know tons of bands this year because progarchives and especially those mp3's. |
My purchase ratio has rown a lot, too...
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 12:34
Off course it's illegal (because the tracks are directly downloaded) but it's seems to be impossible to do restrictions.
moreover, the idea of thinking that we can add extracts only because artists don't manifest themselves is a little bit easy...I'm not sure that everyone is informed about the existence of the site.
now that's my voice, no need to agree with me
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 12:38
I love the MP3s to sample artists before buying the albums. I would
love to see more, especially from relatively unknown acts (thinking of
acts from countries like Venezuela and so on).
I do think that in some cases the selection of the included songs is
dubious. For instance, including an MP3 for Close to the edge (in fact
half of the album) goes too far IMHO.
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Posted By: metalprogressiv
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 21:58
tuxon wrote:
chopper wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I
think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm
highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy
|
Maybe he's a record company spy.
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maybe he can't read, so he doesn't know his question is answered already |
Actually, I can read. I went to college or something.
------------- "Nature inanimate employs sweet sounds, but animated nature sweeter still, to soothe and satisfy the human ear".
--William Cowper
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Posted By: metalprogressiv
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 22:01
philippe wrote:
Off course it's illegal (because the tracks are directly downloaded) but it's seems to be impossible to do restrictions.
moreover, the idea of thinking that we can add extracts only because
artists don't manifest themselves is a little bit easy...I'm not sure
that everyone is informed about the existence of the site.
now that's my voice, no need to agree with me |
Thank you for the clarification.
metalprogressiv
------------- "Nature inanimate employs sweet sounds, but animated nature sweeter still, to soothe and satisfy the human ear".
--William Cowper
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 06:47
Syntharachnid wrote:
horza wrote:
Ok i use Limewire to download (to make buying decisions you understand) so where do i download from on prog archives ?? |
Simple. Just go to the bio page of the band you are interested in, scroll down a bit, and check out the mp3s. To download one, right click it and choose save target as. |
thanks by the way
------------- Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 07:01
metalprogressiv wrote:
tuxon wrote:
chopper wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy
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Maybe he's a record company spy.
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maybe he can't read, so he doesn't know his question is answered already
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Actually, I can read. I went to college or something.
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BTW : Why?
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Posted By: metalprogressiv
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 12:28
tuxon wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
tuxon wrote:
chopper wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
metalprogressiv wrote:
Hello, everyone.
I
think this site is awesome! I've already learned a lot from it, and I'm
highly interested in checking out more facets of Progressive music.
I have a question: are the mp3s on Progarchives.com legal and legitimate? I don't mean to be tense, but I would like to know.
If anyone could assist me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and rock on,
metalprogressiv |
This dude has posted the same question in 3 forums on this site,even after getting a pretty good answer from TP.
Somethin fishy about this guy
|
Maybe he's a record company spy.
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maybe he can't read, so he doesn't know his question is answered already
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Actually, I can read. I went to college or something.
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BTW : Why? |
Girls and beer. And the occasional drunken fight!!  
No, actually I studied and graduated magna cum laude.
Laters
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