Prog Fans in Our 60's
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Topic: Prog Fans in Our 60's
Posted By: someone_else
Subject: Prog Fans in Our 60's
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 08:21
A thread for the ageing who were too young to see prog going proto, but have experienced the genre in its heyday, intended to fill up the generation gap.
I became a prog afficionado in 1972, when I discovered Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 08:36
I'm 60 and I became a prog aficionado in 1973 when I bought Mike OldField's Tubular Bells.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 08:43
I became a prog fan when I listened to "Stand Up" in 1972. It was such a different sound from the current hard rock scene those days, and it made me look into the then undiscovered ( for me of course)world of progressive music. Happily, I found what I was looking for, and have never been disappointed.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 09:09
Manuel wrote:
I became a prog fan when I listened to "Stand Up" in 1972. It was such a different sound from the current hard rock scene those days, and it made me look into the then undiscovered ( for me of course)world of progressive music. Happily, I found what I was looking for, and have never been disappointed. |
I was lucky enough that my dad bought Stand Up on the strength of Bourée when it came out (I was 6 or seven, then) so I knews of Jethro Tull (we also had This Was, on the strength of Serenade To a Cuckoo) when a kid, but I suppose that the real start was when I was 11 and bought Supertramp's Crime upon canadian release day after and within a few weeks, I had Grey & Pink, TAAB, SEBTO, ITCOTCK and a bunch more (thanks to a great store owner), which also included also Harmonium's debut a few months before Crime. I discovered two decades later that this style/genre was called "prog" So yeah, I missed the most important years (too young) but I caught the tail end of the golden age (which I will place in 79), and I will be only 57 this summer
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 09:20
From my intro, turning 62 in late March. Lucky to have been an active listener and concert-goer from the early days of progressive music. Introduced to all sorts of music in a musical family with deep roots in San Pedro, CA. I can remember seeing The Beatles on Ed Sullivan, although I was but 6. Older sisters distributed flyers and posters for The Bank in Torrance, CA, where Pink Floyd played during a US tour in 1968. Their involvement piqued my interest in psychedelia, at one point I was the psychedelic buyer for a used record store in the early 80's. My first concert was The Moody Blues, with Spirit and Trapeze opening at The Forum in 1970. Most favourite prog bands from early days are King Crimson, Jethro Tull, The Strawbs, ELP, Procol Harum, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Gentle Giant, Family, Camel, Frank Zappa, The Moody Blues and I saw these in concert many times. I like bands/artists that mix in other cultures as well, such as Loreena McKennitt, Dead Can Dance, Alan Stivell, The Pentangle, Fairport Convention, Athy the Electric Harper, Azam Ali and Mary Fahl. Favourite psych and/or rock bands/artists are the US Kaleidoscope, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Fever Tree, Phil Ochs, Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe & The Fish, Pink Floyd, The Pretty Things (SF Sorrow period), Buffalo Springfield, Tim Buckley, Pearls Before Swine. More contemporary prog acts that I enjoy are Marillion, iamthemorning, Big Big Train, Riverside, Offa Rex, plus solo efforts by the greats like Richard Thompson, Steve Hackett, Peter Gabriel. Favourite classical composers are Debussy, Holst, Stravinsky, Vaughn Williams. I know there are more, just top of my head stuff. I was vice president of the second largest rock tour bus company in the US throughout the 80's. Being situated in offices at The Village Recorder in Santa Monica, we also managed among others, Bill Ward of Black Sabbath fame and represented the rhythm section of the original Buffalo Springfield, who toured the US whilst waiting for the original band to form a reunion with those big name guys. Most recently, I have formed a publishing company (Ghosts of Palos Verdes Music) and label (19:35 Productions) to promote my recently deceased husband's (Tom Kelly) symphonic progressive music in 3 CD/Digital releases this September. Since I joined PA, I've been doing a lot of listening and particularly have enjoyed adding artists like Charlie Cawood, Hats Off Gentlemen, It's Adequate; Frank Wyatt & Friends, Potter's Daughter, Chasing The Monsoon, Fearful Symmetry, Dark Beauty, and Lazleitt into just a few of my favourites with some newer releases this past year. A couple of other notable newer releases that I've enjoyed are Anthony Phillips' and Vincent Carr's latest.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 11:31
I'm 57 so I cannot comment on this thread...
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 11:39
finally a thread for us! hmm forgot what I was gonna say
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 12:42
I'm 64.5 y.o., and was hooked the moment I heard the Mellotrons on ITCOTCK in 1969!
Many prog classics were on regular rotation on Chicago AM radio, including Yes's "Roundabout," Focus "Hocus Pocus," and ELP's "From the Beginning." I went to see Yes in concert on 22 Sept 1972, not having heard CTTE beforehand (I was fully expecting to hear "America.") Well, I was in for a surprise!
Age doth have its advantages....I saw LTIA live, BSS tour twice, Relayer twice (missed TFTO dammit!), Focus, Weather Report with Jaco etc. There are no words to describe the magnificence of many of these shows! I only wish they had filmed much more of them.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 12:48
Yes, not as many films or photos back in those days.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 14:16
Well..I'm 68....I started before anything was called prog.....I suppose the first full blown prog thing was ITCOTCK (1969) in very early 1970...at least that's when I bought it. But I was already listening to Moody Blues, Traffic, Procol Harum, The Nice, Floyd, etc.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 16:38
I just turned 65 and I became aware in 1970 when I was the first in my school to get a just released copy of "Emerson, Lar and Palmer". I had a break out year in 1971 when I saw the same ELP at the Fillmore East. I later followed that up by seeing Yes in the summer opening for Mountain and Humble Pie in Gaelic Park in the Bronx. That same year caught Pink Floyd at the Central Theater in Passaic, NJ. I finished off 1971 with the concert that still may be the best put together show I've seen. Headliner was Procol Harum. the opening act was Yes with a new keyboardist (Rick Wakeman) followed by the second opening act King Crimson. 49 years later and still hanging with prog. Looking forward to the next 49.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 17:13
Snicolette wrote:
Yes, not as many films or photos back in those days.
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But there is a lot of music, and too much of it is not considered this or that and is not valued, because there was no press/media in America that appreciated it ... specially as some of the bands were considered anti-establishment and were being given some really bad comments in a lot of places ... and eventually a lot of that music was "killed" and not "heard" by the majority of folks ... and that some bands survived it and maintained their status was ... a bit lucky, and also ... they believed in their music and work.
I'm not sure we need a film, or photo ... of Quicksilver Messenger Service, or Spirit, or Jefferson Airplane, or Grateful Dead (specially!!!) to appreciate some of the great stuff and shows they did ... the music is out there, and the number of bootlegs on them at the time, was insane, and a proof that something was happening ... and you did not need flowers in your hair to see it or show it ... !
Recently, I have been listening to some early Quicksilver, and I have to admit ... it was a very nice and enjoyable listen ... and a lot less "composed" than a lot of European stuff ... which was more interesting and fun for my imagination.
PF was, for me, already 2nd generation, since its first 2 albums were not really that well known here in the West Coast ... and honestly, I never got into them, or heard them, until hearing Ummagumma sometime in 1971, and by that time, I had all the other albums by everyone else in my collection, and it was the words on the bootlegs by Pink Floyd (they had an incredible amount of them!), that got me to check out the first 2 albums and Syd Barrett ... that we missed, but I never heard any PF in Southern California until Guy Guden started ripping it up before DSOTM with the previous 3 albums!
JT was fine with me, and I had heard them and appreciated a lot of their work in Madison, so I knew of them in 1969 ... but while highly enjoyable, at parties and everyone digging it, I really thought that Fairport Convention was way better ... but the "bad rap" in California when we moved was ... that it was not about rock music ... and it relegated FC to the back burner that was broke!
The one that was getting a lot of attention, and had for a long time, was Frank Zappa, which at the time, was really difficult to get into ... since his material with the Mothers, was so different, and made so much fun of the commercial everything ... something that is way too visible and sick in LA because of its repetition ... and ons gets tired of _______ and his dog Spot ... real quick ... but what Frank did, musically, was valued, and I (personally) did not need John Lennon to tell me that it was great stuff ... I was already listening to it, although I did not buy my first album until the following year with Chunga's Revenge ... I heard King Kong by another band called Babe Ruth ... and it hooked me well.
There are a lot of "moments" i enjoyed and talk about here every now and then, but a couple of folks do not believe that history was alive in other places, because London wrote the book ... and the rest of the world was not discovered then ... something I find totally sad, having seen a lot of music in Brazil in the 1960's and being extremely aware of Portuguese music in the 1950's.
I did not believe, and still don't ... that it was all ... just pop music, even though it took the sales of it to make it so ... the music was alive before the sales! AND, the Internet today is proving this ... left and right ...
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 17:50
very first prog band I got into was Procol Harum in late 1974 at 16. It was via my older brother's interest in lead guitar in general and Robin Trower in particular. On the underground-ish bilingual FM station in Montreal that I was starting to listen to with him, "Conquistador" (live) came on and he said that it had Robin Trower on guitar. Turns out it didn't but that was probably the first love as a consciously album oriented listener (though it was a big hit single as well). I then bought their first album and was bowled over by it. It's quite unique in their discography and it remains my favorite.
I wasn't as into the guitar hero stuff but my brother also had an ear for more sensitive music, so he introduced me to Strawbs via the glorious "Benedictus" and beyond. From there it wasn't long before early King Crimson, Camel, Barclay James Harvest, Moody Blues, Mike Oldfield, and Renaissance all got added in. By 1976 prog was briefly more mainstream with Alan Parsons Project hitting the mark with their first 2 albums and Genesis producing material more accessible than the PG era (though I loved Selling England). It wasn't until I heard a recorded concert of Steeleye Span on the radio in 1977 that the Celtic prog shoe really dropped, and soon it was on to Steeleye, Horslips, Jethro Tull and beyond. I was also into more serious if not prog artists like Cat Stevens.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 18:30
Nice that this thread got started, I'd posted in the 50's age one, thinking no one would start up a 60's one. Fun to see what others in my decade heard first and how and how many of us also continued diverging yet also keeping tabs on the progressive side.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 22:03
Nikki, no Rush on your list. Shame on you. :P ;)
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 22:12
That's ok, just my perspective from the time. In retrospect, I see the value.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Posted By: Mudpuppy64
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 07:11
Jethro Tull did it for me . First time i heard them i was hooked . They have been my Favourite Band ever since 1970 .
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 08:33
Barclay James Harvest and Camel were two of the earliest prog bands I was in to around about 1974, but it would be another 20 years before I "discovered" Pink Floyd and another 45 years before I discovered the Canterbury Scene.
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Posted By: ColinCool
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 10:00
I turned 65 last December. My first introduction to prog was listening to In the Wake of Poseidon & Black Sabbath's 1st in a friend's house way back in 1970. I was hooked from that day. I also remember being introduced to Pink Floyd in 1971 when we were asked to bring records to school - think it was for an English lesson! Someone brought in Meddle & played One of these Days & it blew me away, even more so when I bought it & heard Echoes!! Pink Floyd's back catalogue soon followed into my collection.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 11:40
Mudpuppy64 wrote:
Jethro Tull did it for me . First time i heard them i was hooked . They have been my Favourite Band ever since 1970 .
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Me too....first heard This Was in early '69, and then Stand Up...became an instant fan...my friend Bill was really into blues rock and he loved Tull.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 12:15
I am 68. The first LP I bought was A Saucerful of Secrets (PF) in 1968. And a Moody Blues single in 1967. And more than 2400 progrock albums since. I love the early 70s prog and the ongoing revival everywhere in the world.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 12:58
Dopeydoc wrote:
I am 68. The first LP I bought was A Saucerful of Secrets (PF) in 1968. And a Moody Blues single in 1967. And more than 2400 progrock albums since. I love the early 70s prog and the ongoing revival everywhere in the world.
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You have almost as many Prog-Rock albums as I have in total across every genre of music. 
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 13:02
dr wu23 wrote:
Well..I'm 68....I started before anything was called prog.....I suppose the first full blown prog thing was ITCOTCK (1969) in very early 1970...at least that's when I bought it. But I was already listening to Moody Blues, Traffic, Procol Harum, The Nice, Floyd, etc. |
I'm a grumpy old music fan, and, like the late Peter Banks, I hate the word "prog." Completely.
It used to be called "art rock" and "theater rock". Jazz-rock fusion was called "fusion."
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Posted By: sduck
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 21:18
I guess I qualify. I'm 62. First thing that I knew was prog - and I LIKED it! - was The Court of the Crimson King, playing on the local college FM station (WVBR in Ithaca, NY).
Saw Yes a few years later, on their Tales tour, and have seen tons of prog shows since then.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 22:25
sduck wrote:
I guess I qualify. I'm 62. First thing that I knew was prog - and I LIKED it! - was The Court of the Crimson King, playing on the local college FM station (WVBR in Ithaca, NY).
Saw Yes a few years later, on their Tales tour, and have seen tons of prog shows since then. |
Welcome to PA! I missed the Tales tour, interestingly, due to the oil boycott of the 1970s. Yes didn't have enough truck fuel for their massive stage fleet to go from Chicago to Champaign, Illinois USA where I was at college at the time.
Interestingly, that inspired me to pursue a life-long engineering/science career in alternative energy! I told this to Jon Anderson backstage at a concert, he gave me a big smile!
*sigh* I only wish they had the foresight to film TFTO and The Lamb tours! And a bunch more!
------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: January 15 2020 at 08:16
61. Became a fan when I heard ELP Tarkus at my neighbor's house. Of course, it wasn't called "prog" back then -- it was just mainstream rock 'n roll. Saw Crimson, Yes, Floyd, Tull, Roxy, and many other's live during the 70's in Pittsburgh's arenas and theaters. The local radio station, WYDD, "Freeform Rock" dished up a steady flow of what would we now recognize as classic prog. In the late 70's and 80's, my tastes steered more towards J/R fusion. The 90's were re-living the past as I couldn't find much new stuff I liked. I started searching out and listening to the newer, emerging prog bands in the 00's and 10's, thanks in part, to the many prog sites on the web -- including PA!
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 13:25
60.My good buddy's older brother played Tarkus and To our Children.....alot.Guess they had just come out.So those two got me started.My very first album, I myself bought, was an LP the English soccer squad had recorded before world cup in Mexico in 70 I believe.Strange I would get that one, as I am Danish. :-)
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Posted By: fredyair
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 17:20
Just turned 60 last year, I started listening to Prog music mostly on the radio back in Argentina, there were a few prog bands in my country, some just imitating British bands but others had really original ideas and sound, but the first big impression was no other than Pink Floyd and The Dark Side of the Moon. After that nothing else but prog occupied my mind, to this very day.
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 05:29
I’m 60 and became a huge prog fan in 1973 after discovering the Fragile album from Yes. Haven’t looked back since.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 11:35
60. As I mentioned, I discovered Pink Floyd in 1972. The signs were already showing up for two years that I would become a prog fan. I found a single by Ekseption when I was 9 or 10 years old that I played over and over again. After listening for two years to top 40 music I switched to LP's. I got Relics for my 13th birthday and I purchased Dark Side of the Moon a few weeks after its release. At 14, I was laying in bed with an earphone to listen to a program on Veronica (a pirate broadcasting station, operational between 1960 and 1974) between 10 and 11 PM.. Thus I discovered Genesis and Mike Oldfield. The rest is history.
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Posted By: SquonkHunter
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 19:25
63. My early encounters with The Moody Blues sort of set the stage. Then I heard The Yes Album in 1972 and I was hooked on Prog from then on.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 20 2020 at 10:58
Tales of Mystery and Imagination Edgar Allan Poe, Chocolate Kings, and A Trick of the Tail started me off on my prog journey.
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Posted By: Jzrk
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 18:27
II am 61 and its hard to say exactly as I remember hearing songs on the radio I liked . But I think my real moment was when my friends brother who was like 4 years older played Tarkus for me. I was in between 8th grade and high school. That jump started by appreciation for prog music
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 02:21
My introduction to prog was Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells with the bands Camel and Renaissance following on closely behind. I didn't buy my first Pink Floyd album until the mid 1990's though and I bought my first Caravan album around 2010/11 when I first went online. 
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Posted By: integerspin
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 11:56
Not sure what mine was, most likely King Crimson.
When I was at junior school I heard all the 60's pop stuff and never really gave it a lot of thought.
When I went to Secondary school, within days of going, I was going to a girls house at dinner time. She lived close to the school and went home for dinner. Her parents were at work so she used to play her sisters records and wind the volume right up, black sabbath, king crimson, pink floyd... We were 11!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 12:03
integerspin wrote:
Not sure what mine was, most likely King Crimson.
When I was at junior school I heard all the 60's pop stuff and never really gave it a lot of thought.
When I went to Secondary school, within days of going, I was going to a girls house at dinner time. She lived close to the school and went home for dinner. Her parents were at work so she used to play her sisters records and wind the volume right up, black sabbath, king crimson, pink floyd... We were 11!
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I had a friend at school when I was about 13 who used to play me Hard Rock albums by Hawkwind, Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, but I was too young to appreciate them back then. 
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 08:07
I've held off writing on this forum because I knew it was going to be more than a quick couple of sentences. So for those interested, here is my journey. If not, please move along, nothing to see here. I was raised on crooners -- Jim Nabors, Mario Lanza, Al Martino, etc. BUT my dad liked good country -- Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, etc. plus a lot of pop music of the 60s. He also loved Roy Orbison. (And polkas, eee-eye-eee-eye-oh, no). And my mom loved Elvis, even took me to see him in his rhinestone suit a couple of years before his passing. The first song that really hit me hard, when I was 7 or 8 years old, was "Puff the Magic Dragon" by Peter, Paul and Mary. It made me cry. From that day on, I liked songs that were serious or melancholy. Other favorites as I grew up were "Indian Reservation" by the Raiders, "Timothy" by the Buoys (if you've never heard this song, give it a listen and the lyrics will stun you), "Light My Fire" by the Doors and then I discovered Simon & Garfunkel, which changed my life. The first album I ever bought was "Sounds of Silence," which led me to get the rest of their albums, which I still love today. That led me into other folk artists like Al Stewart, John Martyn, Nick Drake, Phil Ochs, Bob Dylan, Jim Croce, Cat Stevens, Shawn Phillips, Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Richard Thompson and the like. Then I discovered Elton John, which changed my life. I listened to his s/t album and was blown away. I then bought Tumbleweed Connection, Madman Across The Water (IMHO one of the greatest albums ever made) and everything he did up until Caribou, which I hated. But the big moment for me came on Goodbye Yellow Brick Road -- "Funeral For A Friend" is an all-out prog song and my fave at the time. "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting" posed a problem though. It was pretty damn close to hard rock, which until that point I'd shied away from. Now I had to decide, did I like it or not? I did. I had shunned Zeppelin etc.., buying my parents' line that "it's just screaming." When I told this to my best friend who was trying to get my to listen to Zeppelin, he replied, "Yes, but it's GREAT screaming." That changed the way I looked at things and I gave it a spin. Holy f---k Batman! So this is what I've been missing. From that point on I absorved everything I could get my hands on. In one year I went from "Your Song" to "The End" by the Doors, "DOA" by Bloodrock and "Dead Babies" by Alice Cooper. (My parents were very impressed). The next two albums that really impacted me were Jethro Tull "Aqualung," which is in my Top 10 of all time, and Spirit "The Family That Plays Together." Both albums got me interested in cover art, and Spirit is the first group I ever saw in concert -- my mom had to drive me to the show, which was in a high school gymnasium! But my life changed once and for all when I took "Houses of the Holy" to my buddy's house. Before we put it on, he wanted me to hear something he'd just gotten, an album by a group called King Crimson. I was blown away like never before. The album was even crazier than the cover art. "21st Century Schizoid Man" blew me away, "I Talk to the Wind" was beautiful beyond belief and "Epitaph" was the greatest song I'd ever heard. I made a cassette tape of "Epitaph" recorded over and over; I used to go to sleep listening to it with headphones on. When my friend loved "Houses of the Holy," I proposed a swap -- and the fool accepted. I remember practically skipping on clouds as I walked home from his house, thinking what a sucker he was. I still think so today, even though I do love "Houses of the Holy." Then it was off to college in Florida, where my pool-playing abilities earned me extra cash that I promptly spent at Spec's record store in Lakeland. I went to school with a couple dozen albums and came home with nearly 200! I would go to the store, start at the letter A and just look for any album that had the following combination: A cool cover, 4 or less songs per side, and musicians who played multiple instruments. Mellotrons were desirable. I remember one great purchase with which I discovered Ange, Camel and Caravan all at one time! Using my method, I found groups like Eloy, Pulsar, Sensations Fix and so on. High school friends introduced me to Hawkwind and Pink Floyd. After 1979, I felt like prog had died and I hated what happened to the music scene. I lucked into discovering Marillion and Suzanne Vega on the same day by listening to latenight college radio and realized there was good music still out there. Coincidentally, Marillion played shortly after and I attended the show. While in line, a couple of guys who turned out to be in the band Discipline told me of the prog underground and about John Collinge's Progresssion magazine. A whole new world opened and I've never looked back. Some of my favorite newer prog groups are Anglagard, Anekdoten, The Psychedlic Ensemble, Edison's Children, Phideaux and although they're now defunct, my all-time faves Porcupine Tree. One group that should be on prog archives as prog-related is dada. Check out "Puzzle," "A Friend of Pat Robertson," "A Trip With My Dad," "Feel Me" or "Ask The Wind" and see what I mean. They're my next-favorite group of all-time. My fave from the old days? King Crimson. I literally teared up hearing them do material from their classic albums when I saw them in Cleveland a couple of years ago. Their live version of "The Letters" was chilling and better than any I've heard. Today as I write this I am halfway to age 63 and have more than 3,300 albums in my collection, the vast majority of which are prog or prog-related. I love this website for all the good music I've discovered through it. Thanks for listening!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 08:20
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 08:27
Thanks for reading my missive from hell.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 08:33
progmatic wrote:
Thanks for reading my missive from hell. |
There's a whole wealth of great artists mentioned in your long message. It appears we have very similar tastes in music. So many great artists, and so little time to listen to them all. I can quite easily spend up to four hours listening to and writing a review for just one album. 
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Posted By: Art Rock
Date Posted: February 01 2020 at 06:39
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since.
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Posted By: Tero1
Date Posted: February 05 2020 at 19:27
concerts1970 Family and Wigwam, also Tasavallan Presidentti and Made in Sweden, same festival 1971 Jethro Tull
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 07 2020 at 19:48
Soon to be 62. Though it was my brother's album collection that sealed my conversion to "prog" with his In-a-gadda-da-vida, Beatles, Stones, Uriah Heep, Alvin Lee, Brian Auger, Blue Öyster Cult, and Nektar, but I was a Detroit-born Soul/R&B radio fanatic (I lived for CKLW's weekly countdown of their Top 30). it was the arrival of the album-friendly FM radio stations in Detroit, WABX and WRIF, that captivated me--where I was able to hear non-Top 40 Billboard songs from various albums as well as the album versions of some great AM-edited "hits" (like The Moody Blues's "Nights in White Satin," Argent's "Hold Your Head Up," many Led Zeppelin songs including the full version of "Stairway to Heaven," Rod Stewart's "Maggie May," Grand Funk Railroad's "Closer to Home," "Aqualung" and "Locomotive Breath," Deodato's "Also Sprach Zarathustra," even multiple full-length versions from Marvin Gaye's What's Going On) that's what lured me into album consumerism and alternative musics. While I loved my radio days, my records shop days in the 45s section at Kresge's, buying my first Supertramp, Genesis, Nektar, and Yes albums from Record World in the Hollywood Arcade in Petoskey, flipping through bins of cut-outs at Boogie Records in Kalamazoo or Schoolkids Records in Ann Arbor, there has been no greater learning or exciting period of musical growth than I've had here in the eleven years I've had at ProgArchives. But I would have never found this place had my same brother not introduced me to the fact that Prog was alive and well in the 21st Century as he slipped me a CD mix of Porcupine Tree songs around 2004. I was floored! I had no idea! I truly thought prog had died in the 1970s! Though my musical tastes had remained fully attracted to off-the-beaten path non-Top 40 indie music, I had also ventured into classical and jazz music history to satisfy my sad loss of progressive rock. Who knew there were prog bands popping up all over the planet throughout the 80s, 90s and 00s? I certainly didn't. My "prog" had been XTC, David Sylvian, Ryuichi Sakamoto, The Church, Depeche Mode, New Order, The Cure, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Bill Bruford's Earthworks. Little did I know . . . So little.
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: February 07 2020 at 20:34
Nice story Drew. Really enjoy reading about people's musical journeys. BTW, nothing wrong with David Sylvian, the Church, Alice in Chains etc. Porcupine Tree was the group that just blew me away as well. First album I heard was Staircase Infinities and I thought it sounded like Pink Floyd might have if they hadn't split/commercialized their sound but kept progressing.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 08 2020 at 06:51
progmatic wrote:
Nice story Drew. Really enjoy reading about people's musical journeys. BTW, nothing wrong with David Sylvian, the Church, Alice in Chains etc.Porcupine Tree was the group that just blew me away as well. First album I heard was Staircase Infinities and I thought it sounded like Pink Floyd might have if they hadn't split/commercialized their sound but kept progressing. |
Thanks, Bob! I still think Steven W. did more to resuscitate Prog than anyone. That 90s stuff was awesome! And those concerts look so polished. Just as Floyd would have wanted them.
------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 08 2020 at 06:53
Dear AARP Proggers (meant to include those outside of the USA)! I, too, have enjoyed reading your posts. The stories are so cool for their commonalities. I am astounded at how some of you have so many concerts under your belts! I got burned out on the concert-going a long, long time ago. (My brother was in the mosh-pit that was the human-trampling machine trying to get into the Who concert in Cincinnati in 1979. Took quite the fun out of concert going--especially the big venues.) Living in rural America means long drives to any concerts. Plus, I've just grown tired of big crowds. I usually prefer a studio album with my headphones on.
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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: February 12 2020 at 18:04
I'm 35 next may and I discovered Prog in 1997 when... hey, wait... this is not the right topic! Damn!
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Posted By: ProcolWho?
Date Posted: February 22 2020 at 17:00
First Cassette Tape I ever bought was Shine On Brightly.
All downhill from there.
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Posted By: MaldonTerryWood
Date Posted: February 25 2020 at 06:10
I got going in 1971, I was 15, growing up in England, in Essex. Yes at the Rainbow, Frank Zappa and ELP at the Oval, Genesis and Focus in a cellar club under a hotel in Westcliff. But I wasn't only listening to Prog Rock, there was alll the other stuff. Pub rock like Dr Feelgood and the Kursaal Flyers, jazz rock like the Softs and the Mahavishnus. How about you lot, were you pure Prog or also following other bands?
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 25 2020 at 06:52
MaldonTerryWood wrote:
Genesis and Focus in a cellar club under a hotel in Westcliff. |
Wow, what's the name of the hotel and is it still there?
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 25 2020 at 06:56
Even more impressive was that kenington oval concert! I never thought Genesis and ELP played together let alone with Focus...how could Wishbone Ash headline? Ridiculous....
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 25 2020 at 06:58
My eldest brother and his mate saw Genesis in 1970 in a stockport pub!!!
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Posted By: maldonterrywood2
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 10:01
It was the Queen's Hotel in Hamlet Court Road. Later a lot of the punk bands played there. Not there any more. I think there was a fire in the early 90's.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 10:31
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 10:52
I'm only 16. Where's the Taylor Swift section?
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 10:57
SteveG wrote:
I'm only 16. Where's the Taylor Swift section? |
that's for 17 year olds only. You gotta wait a year...
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 10:58
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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Can't you just let it go? Oh, you can't? I think you were at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 11:19
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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Can't you just let it go? Oh, you can't? I think you were at the wrong place at the wrong time. |
Exactly! I was obviously Misplaced at a Marillion gig in the mid-1980's when I was far too young to appreciate the finer points of Neo Prog. I was thinking "What the Fugazi am I doing here at a Marillion gig when I'd much rather be Somewhere Else!??" It's taken me another 38 years to finally find out what I've been missing all these years. 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 11:21
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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You've given them the thumbs down yet you gave the Script album 5 stars? Presumably they played much of that album at the gig?
Anyway I'm 60 now and first discovered prog when my older sister borrowed a copy of Nursery Cryme off a friend of hers. I then bought Genesis Live when it came out. Prog was pretty big amongst my school mates (although nobody actually called it prog then) - we were all into Yes, Genesis and ELP as well as rock bands like Rainbow, Deep Purple etc.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 11:25
chopper wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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You've given them the thumbs down yet you gave the Script album 5 stars? Presumably they played much of that album at the gig?
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I think they were promoting my least favourite Marillion album "Misplaced Childhood" at the gig, as I recall "Kayleigh" was on "heavy rotation" on the radio at the time. 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 11:26
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
chopper wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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You've given them the thumbs down yet you gave the Script album 5 stars? Presumably they played much of that album at the gig?
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I think they were promoting my least favourite Marillion album "Misplaced Childhood" at the gig, as I recall "Kayleigh" was on "heavy rotation" on the radio at the time.  |
Keyleigh came out in 1985, so you got the year wrong.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 11:27
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
chopper wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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You've given them the thumbs down yet you gave the Script album 5 stars? Presumably they played much of that album at the gig?
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I think they were promoting my least favourite Marillion album "Misplaced Childhood" at the gig, as I recall "Kayleigh" was on "heavy rotation" on the radio at the time.  |
Keyleigh came out in 1985, so you got the year wrong. |
Quite possibly. 
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 12:16
I'm sooooo old, I didn't even see this thread when it started 2 years ago. 
I've mentioned before the earliest prog I can really remember might be Fire by Crazy World of Arthur Brown. Of course at the time what the hell was prog anyway. It was just a cool song for me.
But, in the summer of 1971, at the age of 13, I heard ELP's debut in full at a summer drop-in centre at the local high school. Some of the 'older' kids had brought in LP's to listen to and the sound of that pipe organ and the subsequent drum solo made me prog's bitch.
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Posted By: Hewitt
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 13:11
I started listening to progressive rock in 1972 through the influence of an older brother. The first prog rock gig I saw was Genesis on the Selling England by the Pound tour at the Liverpool Empire towards the end of 1973. A few years ago I saw The Musical Box recreate this show at the Edinburgh Usher Hall. Very good they were too, almost like getting a Tardis back to 73.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 13:14
The first Prog album I got was ELP's Trilogy at the age of 15, and the year was 1972. I liked it very much, and I was also fond of Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd about that time, or a bit later . But it took 3-4 years more before I got hooked on other Prog bands/artists like Oldfield, Genesis, Wakeman, and Mahavishnu Orchestra (Birds of Fire) not to forget who's music I just thought of as the same kind as the other bands'.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 14:14
Around 1974, with help from my older neighbor, was listening to Kansas, Zappa, Tull, Floyd. It wasn't called prog back then. Her Majesty's Voice and King Biscuit Flower Hour were two radio shows that would play more of the obscure stuff. Great record stores in the area with knowledgeable staff were helpful to introduce you to new bands.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 15:05
I take it all back to a middle school dance I was forced to go to in 7th grade (this was early winter of 1972). The live band played some long rockers like "Maggie May," "Locomotive Breath" and "Aqualung", "I'm Your Captain (Closer to Home)" and "Stairway to Heaven." Though I was loathe to acknowledge, much less dance with, the girls who were pestering me, I remember mostly standing in place watching the band perform, basking in the wonderfully psychedelic light show. (This was an affluent suburb of Detroit.)
At the same time, two album-oriented rock 'n' roll FM radio stations appeared at nearly the same time: WABX and then WRIF (and much later WLLZ). Though a Motown and AM Top 30 radio fanatic, I remember being intrigued with the offerings of the FM stations--fascinated with the importance of the intricate contributions of the instrumentalists to the songs I was hearing. That was the start. Before that, I was quite content with my parents' Beatles, Herb Alpert, Carpenters, and Brazil '66 stuff--and, of course, my own burgeoning 45 collection of Motown hits.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 17:34
David_D wrote:
The first Prog album I got was ELP's Trilogy at the age of 15, and the year was 1972. I liked it very much, and I was also fond of Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd about that time, or a bit later . But it took 3-4 years more before I got hooked on other Prog bands/artists like Oldfield, Genesis, Wakeman, and Mahavishnu Orchestra (Birds of Fire) not to forget who's music I just thought of as the same kind as the other bands'. |
After second thought, among the very first Prog bands, I got acquainted with and liked in the years 1972-75, were Focus (Moving Waves), Ekseption (Trinity) and Osibisa (debut). I saw Focus at Roskilde Festival in 1975 but I was too drunk and stoned to be able to remember much of it afterwards. 
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 19:58
^Another lie? Really ? How am I supposed to trust anything you say anymore David? I've tried and tried but you just don't make it easy anymore. I'm going to my mother's tonight, we'll talk about this later.   
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 21:38
ColinCool wrote:
I turned 65 last December. My first introduction to prog was listening to In the Wake of Poseidon & Black Sabbath's 1st in a friend's house way back in 1970. I was hooked from that day. I also remember being introduced to Pink Floyd in 1971 when we were asked to bring records to school - think it was for an English lesson! Someone brought in Meddle & played One of these Days & it blew me away, even more so when I bought it & heard Echoes!! Pink Floyd's back catalogue soon followed into my collection.
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That's strange. This is an exact description of my experience
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 22:20
I recall an abundance of interest in school. Most of the musicians in the high school band were amazed by ELP, Jethro Tull, King Crimson and others. Even though I was a musician and tied in with that circle ...I took notice of people who were not musicians also listening to Prog. Prog was popular and people took it seriously. This occurred in South Jersey..where the youth were forming Progressive Rock cover bands and performing 6 nights a week. During that time you could make decent money and invest in your own career and paying your dues. Several Progressive Rock cover bands would also perform as original bands. They would split the money to pay for studio time and find a label interested in signing them.
Maybe this kind of support and demand for Prog did not exist in other parts of the U.S. ? Idk? It was huge in South Jersey for sure. On one particular occasion....the band I was with were auditioning keyboard players. One of the keyboard players that showed up to audition had keyboards all around him. He played all of the early Vangelis and he had all the sounds. He also played all of Voyage Of The Acolyte by imitating guitar sounds that Steve Hackett produced with a volume pedal. You actually couldn't tell the difference between his playing and the album. Why would somebody go to great lengths to do that? I met many keyboardists that spent a fortune buying keyboards to sound like Emerson and Wakeman...and people say. "Oh it couldn't have been that popular " Really? Like in the H.G. Wells Time Machine. If it were conceivable you could visit South Jersey in 71' s and see for yourself.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: February 01 2022 at 23:16
Cristi wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
chopper wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Art Rock wrote:
I'm 62, but I only really got into prog when a friend introduced me to prog in 1981 to the gems of the 70s. It's been my favourite pop/rock genre ever since. |
I'm 62 too and the first and last prog band I ever saw in concert was Marillion at Rock City in Nottingham in 1984. 
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You've given them the thumbs down yet you gave the Script album 5 stars? Presumably they played much of that album at the gig?
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I think they were promoting my least favourite Marillion album "Misplaced Childhood" at the gig, as I recall "Kayleigh" was on "heavy rotation" on the radio at the time.  |
Keyleigh came out in 1985, so you got the year wrong. |
Yeah but they could have already written much of the Misplaced Childhood album by then. They did play that album in its entirety before it was actually released.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 04:20
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 04:37
^Just a joke about you changing your story...nothing more.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 04:45
JD wrote:
^Just a joke about you changing your story...nothing more.
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okay, thanks 
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 06:00
I can tell that my life is not easy, so I am touchy.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 06:35
I'm 66 and became converted to prog as soon as I heard 'Meddle' back in 1972.
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 07:28
Nice thread! I didn't know that so many prog geezers are here on PA forum.  I turned 60 last year. As I mentioned in my OP in newbie section, I grew up in small eastern European country and my older brother got me hooked on the bands like ELP, KC, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes. My first exposure to prog-rock - probably in early 1971 when he brought home 2 LPs borrowed from his high school friend: ITCOTCK and ELP debut. I was too young to absorb this type of music. I was only 10 and back then I was listening to pop-rock regular suspects like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Kinks. Slowly but steadily I was getting into more challenging music: Procol Harum, Moody Blues, Wishbone Ash and Argent. First prog-rock (or I should write prog-rock related?) album that I bought together with my brother was Pink Floyd "Relics" on one of the record conventions in Warsaw. First prog-rock album that I heard and was blown away by: Genesis "Selling England by the Pound (late 1973). My brother very quickly gave up on prog-rock and started listening to jazz and classical music, but I, always hungry for new prog-rock discoveries, was exploring lesser known prog-bands bands (lesser known in 70s in Poland) like Khan (bought their record in 1974), Gracious, Hawkwind, Gentle Giant, Camel, Strawbs, Soft Machine, JT (heard them and taped their albums or single tracks from Polish Radio), Amon Duul II, VdGG, Gong, Faust (through friends met on the record conventions), Can (through Jerzy Skolimowski movie "Deep End" that I watched in my local movie theater around 1974), Rare Bird, Atomic Rooster (their compilation albums were released by Polish record label "Polskie Nagrania" in 1975).
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 07:54
David_D wrote:
I can tell that my life is not easy, so I am touchy. | Well I'm one who 'tries' to bring a little levity to the forums when I can. God knows, life itself these days certainly doesn't do its part to make things happier. Watch the emoticons,(winks, thumbs LOL's) they'll tell you more about my posts than the words.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:00
enigmatic wrote:
I grew up in small eastern European country... |
Poland? "small"? 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:06
Hi,
The weird thing, is, that today, even though I'm older, I don't talk about the music as if it was some Romantic piece of a Symphony from the 1800's.
I was into "progressive" way before it was even thought to be so, and already I had things like THE NICE around, and other peculiarly things that would be considered weird, although less known at the time. Things like THE ELECTRIC PRUNES ... stuff that did not FIT the mold on the AM radio, and in the end, had a real hard time getting an ear on the new FM radio band that became really well known in the late 60's in America, which is the main reason that this music became so well known, because you KNOW, that the AM radio would have killed everything else.
All in all, in my book, and seeing of things with other students in Madison (U of W - 50K students and probably 20% foreigners making it a very lively cultural background -- we won't mention the soccer stuff I was a part of ... that was fun and crazy at the same time!!!!!)), it was about music that was far better than what was on the radio. JT was laughed at as pretentious by at least one DJ in Madison and then he went on to say the same thing about "Light My Fire" and even Janis! He never realized or saw that the music depth and understanding was CHANGING ... and that a new day was here for music that had more depth than yummy yummy yummy, here comes the money for the record company! But the hard part was that The Beatles were already "prog" and "progressive" by their time and changes in their last albums ... that stuff was really tough on the hit radio scene, and way too opinionated for the morose mentality of hit radio.
To me, "prog" and "progressive" was already visible in many places, and someone like Miles Davis deserves some credit here because he did what a lot of guitar players do even in metal these days ... shred the heck out of the composition! And then we call it "prog". Or "progressive" ...
... but looking at the history of it all, is quite different. PF is not as strong in the long cuts as the Grateful Dead was in those days ... and many things of theirs lasted 30, 40 and more minutes, which was a problem for the LP, but NEVER an issue for bootlegs! But we have never enjoyed one of the GD trips, and the only thing of them we know is the "songs" that are better known that the FM radio played the most! AND, while a lot of it is good, and fun, it is NOT their best!
When looked at the vast amounts of music, ALL OVER THE WORLD, instead of just England and America, my biggest concern is that we still are not strong enough to listen to a lot of those things, and I was listening to the Greeks in the late 60's already, and Alan Stivell ... (Aphrodite's Child) ... and when Mr. Gomelski's connection to the groups and all of a sudden here comes Gentle Giant, you know that you are going after it right away, and I did. Gentle Giant is not my first choice a lot of times, but the respect for the creativity and the compositional elements in their music is pretty much 2nd to none!
And then came the Italians, the Germans, the Spaniards, the Japanese, ECM and its progressive folks all over their music experimenting, specially Gismonti, Garbarek, Haden, Rypdal (for me!!!) ... and by 1974, I was already tired of PF when all these came around. Many folks here get bummed when I say things like that ... but you gotta realize that I listen to many things, not just one, and the variety CHANGES HOW YOU FEEL about your "favorite" and "top chit" that so many lists are! And to me the saddest thing is that as we age, at times it feels like we hear less and less about what it around the world. I guess we look forward to being deaf?
Not for me ... the music lives in my heart already!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:06
JD wrote:
Well I'm one who 'tries' to bring a little levity to the forums when I can. God knows, life itself these days certainly doesn't do its part to make things happier. Watch the emoticons,(winks, thumbs LOL's) they'll tell you more about my posts than the words.
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Very good intention!, and thanks for the guideline. 
Something happened in the last days which made me unsure about your intention here.
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:09
David_D - all is relative, right? Comparing to USA Poland is small, comparing to Denmark, not really. It's the same with prog-rock.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:15
enigmatic wrote:
David_D - all is relative, right? Comparing to USA Poland is small, comparing to Denmark, not really. It's the same with prog-rock. |
Hi,
I only have one issue with that ... no one will EVER bother comparing Poland and Denmark to England or the USA, the "father and mother" of progressive music, so to speak ... and the comparison sometimes looks silly since no one has given an honest and proper ear to the material from elsewhere, specially when it is from Mars, Venus or Pluto.  ... then it will NEVER be mentioned in the same thread as the top five in progressive or prog!!!!!!!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:24
enigmatic wrote:
David_D - all is relative, right? Comparing to USA Poland is small, comparing to Denmark, not really. It's the same with prog-rock. |
But you know that my reaction was due to my Polish upbringing and what is left of some national feelings. But I was kidding, too, and I guessed, you wrote from the American perspective - even TBH it suprised me considering your Polish upbringning which was much longer than mine.
And if to be precise, can Poland be said to be small as an East European country? - I mean comparing to other East European countries. 
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:47
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
What you wrote there in January 2020 doesn't seem much of a "progger", Paul, but I guess that you moved more in that direction the last two years - even I remember you to have written that you're much of a Jazz and Soul Man, as well.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 08:57
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Exactly! I was obviously Misplaced at a Marillion gig in the mid-1980's when I was far too young to appreciate the finer points of Neo Prog. I was thinking "What the Fugazi am I doing here at a Marillion gig when I'd much rather be Somewhere Else!??" It's taken me another 38 years to finally find out what I've been missing all these years. 
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You're certainly funny, Paul - at least seen from my only-like- Script perspective. 
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 10:12
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
Define 'genuine prog'.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 10:17
enigmatic wrote:
Nice thread! I didn't know that so many prog geezers are here on PA forum.  First prog-rock (or I should write prog-rock related?) album that I bought together with my brother was Pink Floyd "Relics" on one of the record conventions in Warsaw.
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A frequent debate on here is to whether Pink Floyd are genuinely prog or not - they've been my favourite band since *1972, I own all their official (audio & video) releases, and have compiled a very extensive PF discography and song database, and I still don't know the answer!
*50 years - shudder
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 10:38
Progishness wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
Define 'genuine prog'.
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Albums that are defined as prog on ProgArchives, but not including Jazz Rock/Fusion, Progressive Electronic or Prog Related. 
By the way, I've never doubted that Pink Floyd are genuine prog. 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 10:44
David_D wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
What you wrote there in January 2020 doesn't seem much of a "progger", Paul, but I guess that you moved more in that direction the last two years - even I remember you to have written that you're much of a Jazz and Soul Man, as well.
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That's mainly because Jazz and Soul CD's are generally much easier to get hold of than classic Prog-Rock CD's from the 1970's. My Jazz and Soul collection outnumbers my Prog Rock collection by about three to one.
My Jazz Collection
Herb Alpert (1) David Axelrod (3) Roy Ayers (1) Ray Barretto (1) George Benson (10) Terence Blanchard (1) Dee Dee Bridgewater (4) Donald Byrd (5) Donald Byrd & 125th Street, NYC (1) Larry Carlton (2) Stanley Clarke (2) Billy Cobham & George Duke Band (1) Joyce Cooling (1) Hank Crawford (2) Brian Culbertson (1) The Crusaders (4) Deodato (3) George Duke (7) Candy Dulfer (2) Fourplay (1) Herbie Hancock (3) Bobbi Humphrey (2) Incognito (2) Paul Jackson, Jr. (1) Bob James (1) Bob James & David Sanborn (1) Al Jarreau (1) Quincy Jones (17) Kenny G (4) John Klemmer (1) Earl Klugh (1) Dave Koz (1) Ramsey Lewis (2) Ramsey Lewis Trio (2) Herbie Mann (7) Lee Ritenour (2) Patrice Rushen (2) Joe Sample (2) David Sanborn (5) Lalo Schifrin (2) Shakatak (3) Tower of Power (5) Urban Knights (1) Grover Washington, Jr. (4) Lenny White (5) Peter White (2)
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 11:08
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Progishness wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
Define 'genuine prog'.
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Albums that are defined as prog on ProgArchives, but not including Jazz Rock/Fusion, Progressive Electronic or Prog Related. 
By the way, I've never doubted that Pink Floyd are genuine prog. 
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Yep I don't buy into JRF either, nor any of the so called prog metal categories.
------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar."
Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 11:12
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
By the way, I've never doubted that Pink Floyd are genuine prog. 
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If the music is darned good, it doesn't matter if you classify it as 'rhubarb and custard' for all I care!
As Roger Waters once commented, all that matters is whether a song moves you (or not).
------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar."
Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 11:46
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
David_D wrote:
What you wrote there in January 2020 doesn't seem much of a "progger", Paul, but I guess that you moved more in that direction the last two years - even I remember you to have written that you're much of a Jazz and Soul Man, as well.
| That's mainly because Jazz and Soul CD's are generally much easier to get hold of than classic Prog-Rock CD's from the 1970's. My Jazz and Soul collection outnumbers my Prog Rock collection by about three to one. |
And then I think that your Prog collection is still about as large as mine because my entire collection is only about 450 albums, and I have albums from many other genres than Prog.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 12:41
Paul, do you have a list of your collection in a database?
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 12:56
David_D wrote:
Paul, do you have a list of your collection in a database? |
Yes, I currently have 16,000+ artists and 80,000+ album covers stored on my old laptop, dating back to the halcyon days when I used to have my own music site - YouTube Episodes & Music - up until 2015 when the piggy bank ran dry, which goes some way towards explaining why most of my music lists are now up to seven years out of date. 
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Posted By: enigmatic
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 13:21
Progishness wrote:
As Roger Waters once commented, all that matters is whether a song moves you (or not).
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BTW Psychedelic Paul - Pink Floyd were not considered a progressive rock band in 1970. As we all know, they started as a psychedelic band and later invented a space-rock. Space rock and progressive rock were 2 separate subgenres of Rock in 1970. From historical point of view, Pink Floyd were not part of British progressive rock movement that started in late 1969. One of Genesis biographies has an interesting memoirs from each member of the band and Anthony Phillips asked about progressive rock beginnings mentioned that he was always surprised when people called PF prog-rock. But times changed and the definition of progressive rock too. Today would be is silly not to consider Pink Floyd as a prog-rock band.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 13:55
David_D wrote:
David_D wrote:
The first Prog album I got was ELP's Trilogy at the age of 15, and the year was 1972. I liked it very much, and I was also fond of Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd about that time, or a bit later . But it took 3-4 years more before I got hooked on other Prog bands/artists like Oldfield, Genesis, Wakeman, and Mahavishnu Orchestra (Birds of Fire) not to forget who's music I just thought of as the same kind as the other bands'. |
After second thought, among the very first Prog bands, I got acquainted with and liked in the years 1972-75, were Focus (Moving Waves), Ekseption (Trinity) and Osibisa (debut). I saw Focus at Roskilde Festival in 1975 but I was too drunk and stoned to be able to remember much of it afterwards. 
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To continue my Prog story, beginning in the late 70's and in the 80's I was almost entirely into mainstream Rock, and in fact no Prog, but beginning in the early 90's I went back to Prog as the main music interest of my teenage years and, as it showed to be, until now. My worshipping of Prog as a genre began though first in the first half of the 2000's.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 14:13
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
And which media is your collection of?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 02 2022 at 14:15
David_D wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
With 3,300 albums, you have 700 albums more than I have, although only around 7% of my collection (at the most) are genuine prog albums.  |
And which media is your collection of?
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They're all on CD and I'm catching up with you fast as I now have 3000+ albums on CD. 
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