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Topic: Songs you hate by bands you love...
Posted By: Disconnect
Subject: Songs you hate by bands you love...
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 05:26
for me...."The World Is My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" by King Crimson.

Aside from the unforgivable stolen Will Smith lyric 'GET JIGGY WITH IT!', the whole track is unlistenable for me.

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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:22
Chicago - Free Form Guitar

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:24
Genesis - Whodunnit


Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:37
Pretty much anything from The Final Cut

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:37
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Genesis - Whodunnit


Bingo . . .

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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:56
Pink Floyd - The Dogs of War

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 07:59
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Pink Floyd - The Dogs of War

I can't say i hate it, it's just nothing special.
A New Machine part 1 & 2 are so pointless, they bring nothing to the album, breaking its flow.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 10:03
I would say "Anything She Does" and "Illegal Alien" by Genesis, off the top of my head. There is much to choose from the 1980s. I don't hate the ones posted before me. In fact I like "The World Is My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" quite a lot. It sounds much like a title I would come up for my own project.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 10:16
Camel - Remote Romance
Renaissance - Camera Camera (the whole album, I can't choose the worst track)
as Cristi says, A New Machine is the only PF track(s) that I usualy skip.

All the Yes/Anderson/ABWH songs when there are "salsa like" percussion


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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 10:28
It was a toss up really - the two parts of 'A New Machine' sound a bit weedy, and the lyrics are nothing special, but there's something about the whole tone of 'Dogs of War' that has always irritated me.

IMO there are two excellent songs on MLR - 'Sorrow' and 'Yet Another Movie'.
Two more decent tracks - 'Learning to Fly' and 'One Slip'.
The rest of the album being pretty much filler.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 10:36
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

It was a toss up really - the two parts of 'A New Machine' sound a bit weedy, and the lyrics are nothing special, but there's something about the whole tone of 'Dogs of War' that has always irritated me.

IMO there are two excellent songs on MLR - 'Sorrow' and 'Yet Another Movie'.
Two more decent tracks - 'Learning to Fly' and 'One Slip'.
The rest of the album being pretty much filler.


On the Turning Away is good, and even better live on DSOT.


Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 12:38
Maybe I just don’t get it … but Neurotica by Rush.

I would rather do an all day marathon of just Tai Shan, which is actually a nice song, than listen to Neurotica.

I’m not a fan of Driven either. It sounds like a sea shanty on steroids. And Roll the Bones … no thank you.

I really like Rush up to Hold Your Fire and I like Counterparts and smatterings here and there.



Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 13:24
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Genesis - Whodunnit


I could make a list of Genesis songs I dislike, but that would be Many Too Many.


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 14:13
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

It was a toss up really - the two parts of 'A New Machine' sound a bit weedy, and the lyrics are nothing special, but there's something about the whole tone of 'Dogs of War' that has always irritated me.

IMO there are two excellent songs on MLR - 'Sorrow' and 'Yet Another Movie'.
Two more decent tracks - 'Learning to Fly' and 'One Slip'.
The rest of the album being pretty much filler.


On the Turning Away is good, and even better live on DSOT.


Agreed, OTTA is pretty decent too.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 14:52
Tangerine Dream hadn't done much wrong up until 1982, when they made a soundtrack for "Das Maedchen auf der Treppe", an episode of Tatort, a popular series of whodunnits in Germany. That single with the title track actually charted in Germany, so it brought them some money, which is fair enough, but it was the most boring TD track by some distance I had heard at that point, and I still don't like it (they went mostly downhill from there for quite some time, unfortunately). Chances are this is one of these things that works well as a soundtrack but not on its own (my way of explaining why this was a success after all). It's actually a remix of some material from White Eagle, which is pretty good but takes enough time to let the music develop.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 16:08
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

"Das Maedchen auf der Treppe"
Massive respect for typing the ä umlaut as "ae" rather than "a". :)


Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: May 05 2025 at 17:55
Even if one ignores "bonus tracks" and low-hanging fruit ("Are You Ready Eddy") that are continuously mentioned on this site, it's also not hard to come up with a substantial list:

Steve Hackett: "The Hermit", "Ballad of the Decomposing Man"
Pink Floyd: "Free Four"
John Wetton: "Be Careful What You Wish For"
Styx: "First Time"
Barclay James Harvest: "Suicide?"
Queen: "Get Down Make Love"
Peter Gabriel: "This is the Picture (Excellent Birds)"
Kansas: "No Room for a Stranger", "Secret Service"
Manfred Mann's Earth Band: "Resurrection"
Supertramp: "Babaji"
Rush: "Turn the Page", "Witch Hunt", "Tears", "Cygnus X-1"
Alan Parsons Project: "Since the Last Goodbye"
Moody Blues: "House of Four Doors", most of the Octave album
Saga: "Alone Again Tonight", "Don't Put Out the Fire"
Genesis: "Jesus He Knows Me", "Tell Me Why", "Living Forever", "The Waiting Room"
Yes: "Rhythm of Love", "Almost Like Love"
Asia: "Finger on the Trigger", "Emily", "I Will Remember You"


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 02:02
Some low hanging fruit
ELP - Jeremy Bender (the very definition of 'hasn't aged well')
Yes - Circus Of Heaven (yuk!)
Genesis - Battle of Epping Forest (how can this be the longest track on this album?!)
Rick Wakeman - The Breathalyser (just not funny)
King Crimson - Indiscipline (I hate the whole album but this is the sh*t cherry a top of the sh*tty cake for me)
IQ - Colourflow (just way too much into 80's pop for me)


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 12:02
Yes - Ritual

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 14:41
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Maybe I just don’t get it … but Neurotica by Rush.

I would rather do an all day marathon of just Tai Shan, which is actually a nice song, than listen to Neurotica.


"Neurotica" and "You Bet Your Life" are two of the worst songs Rush ever recorded. "Faithless" is another one. "Virtuality" isn't too hot, either.


Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

I’m not a fan of Driven either. It sounds like a sea shanty on steroids.


Now that's crazy talk.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 14:42
Saga — too many songs to list that were recorded between Heads or Tales (1983) and Full Circle (1999).

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 15:02
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Tangerine Dream hadn't done much wrong up until 1982, when they made a soundtrack for "Das Maedchen auf der Treppe", an episode of Tatort, a popular series of whodunnits in Germany. That single with the title track actually charted in Germany, so it brought them some money, which is fair enough, but it was the most boring TD track by some distance I had heard at that point, and I still don't like it (they went mostly downhill from there for quite some time, unfortunately). Chances are this is one of these things that works well as a soundtrack but not on its own (my way of explaining why this was a success after all). It's actually a remix of some material from White Eagle, which is pretty good but takes enough time to let the music develop.


It was a slight remix of the title track of White Eagle. I don't think it brought them anywhere near as much moola as scoring for the big US flicks like Risky Business (Edgar initially turned it down because he read the script and thought it sucked but then took the gig at his agent's behest — he asked for more money and the studio agreed.)

I'm surprised you dislike it that much. It's a little on the vanilla side, but it's hardly the worst thing they ever recorded. I don't dislike anything recorded by that particular line-up, but diff'rent strokes, as they say.

P.S. The other Tatort tracks they supplied were brilliant!

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 16:00
I can agree with these (and add KC's Fracture to the bunch):
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Some low hanging fruit
Yes - Circus Of Heaven (yuk!)
King Crimson - Indiscipline (I hate the whole album but this is the sh*t cherry a top of the sh*tty cake for me)


But not with this:
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Genesis - Battle of Epping Forest (how can this be the longest track on this album?!)



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 17:11
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Tangerine Dream hadn't done much wrong up until 1982, when they made a soundtrack for "Das Maedchen auf der Treppe", an episode of Tatort, a popular series of whodunnits in Germany. That single with the title track actually charted in Germany, so it brought them some money, which is fair enough, but it was the most boring TD track by some distance I had heard at that point, and I still don't like it (they went mostly downhill from there for quite some time, unfortunately). Chances are this is one of these things that works well as a soundtrack but not on its own (my way of explaining why this was a success after all). It's actually a remix of some material from White Eagle, which is pretty good but takes enough time to let the music develop.


It was a slight remix of the title track of White Eagle. I don't think it brought them anywhere near as much moola as scoring for the big US flicks like Risky Business (Edgar initially turned it down because he read the script and thought it sucked but then took the gig at his agent's behest — he asked for more money and the studio agreed.)

I'm surprised you dislike it that much. It's a little on the vanilla side, but it's hardly the worst thing they ever recorded. I don't dislike anything recorded by that particular line-up, but diff'rent strokes, as they say.

P.S. The other Tatort tracks they supplied were brilliant!

It may well be that had this been the first track I heard from an unknown band, I'd have said that this is OK and there's so much worse out there. But from the mighty Tangerine Dream? Expectations expectations...


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 21:32
I love the WHO… Squeeze Box is a turd
KC is my favorite Band… bude, potato pie, oyster soup, and the entire thrakattakc album are a joke… right?
PINK FLOYDs psych breakfast and furry animals and a pict or whatever… I skip over when I can.
Procol Harum (great band) “Bringing home the bacon” lyrics are awful. Music is good.

I recently went on a full discography listen of the moody blues. Some great classic tracks, songs that are legendary… surrounded by some real clunkers on almost every album.

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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: May 06 2025 at 21:37
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Maybe I just don’t get it … but Neurotica by Rush.

I would rather do an all day marathon of just Tai Shan, which is actually a nice song, than listen to Neurotica.


"Neurotica" and "You Bet Your Life" are two worst songs Rush ever recorded. "Faithless" is another one. "Virtuality" isn't too hot, either.


Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

I’m not a fan of Driven either. It sounds like a sea shanty on steroids.


Now that's crazy talk.


If you can swing a beer stein back and forth whilst singing, it’s a sea shanty. Geddy Lee’s bass line is difficult but that’s just what I hear.   


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 07 2025 at 02:07
'Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk'

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 07 2025 at 02:10
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

'Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk'


Another one i like.
I like quite a few of the songs listed on this thread.
Oh well...


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: May 07 2025 at 04:58
The song just grates on me - definitely the worst thing Roger ever composed (IMO) while he was still in the band. By the time they recorded Saucerful; his songwriting had improved immensely.

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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: May 07 2025 at 08:34


ELP - Tiger in the Spotlight
Genesis - More Fool Me



Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 11:45
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

It was a toss up really - the two parts of 'A New Machine' sound a bit weedy, and the lyrics are nothing special, but there's something about the whole tone of 'Dogs of War' that has always irritated me.

IMO there are two excellent songs on MLR - 'Sorrow' and 'Yet Another Movie'.
Two more decent tracks - 'Learning to Fly' and 'One Slip'.
The rest of the album being pretty much filler.


A New Machine is my absolutely least favorite Pink Floyd song ever.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 11:46
Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

I love the WHO… Squeeze Box is a turd
KC is my favorite Band… bude, potato pie, oyster soup, and the entire thrakattakc album are a joke… right?
PINK FLOYDs psych breakfast and furry animals and a pict or whatever… I skip over when I can.
Procol Harum (great band) “Bringing home the bacon” lyrics are awful. Music is good.

I recently went on a full discography listen of the moody blues. Some great classic tracks, songs that are legendary… surrounded by some real clunkers on almost every album.


Squeeze Box kept me away from Who By Numbers for decades. Overall, though, I like the album a lot.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 11:49
My answer is Hot Mango Flush from Jethro Tull's J-Tull Dot Com. An otherwise decent album, but this song is terrible.

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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 18:17
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

It was a toss up really - the two parts of 'A New Machine' sound a bit weedy, and the lyrics are nothing special, but there's something about the whole tone of 'Dogs of War' that has always irritated me.

IMO there are two excellent songs on MLR - 'Sorrow' and 'Yet Another Movie'.
Two more decent tracks - 'Learning to Fly' and 'One Slip'.
The rest of the album being pretty much filler.


Never understood the hate for "Dogs of War'. Your two favs are mine too but I like this album.

A Floyd song to hate would be 'Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict'.

For Genesis it would be 'Anything She Does'. 'Whodunnit' is fine, it just should have been shorter



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