prog stars guesting on mediocre prog lps
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Topic: prog stars guesting on mediocre prog lps
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Subject: prog stars guesting on mediocre prog lps
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 10:35
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INTERGALACTIC TOURING BAND (aRTHUR bROWN,aNNIE hASLAM,dAVE cOUSINS,rOD aRGENT,lARRY fAST,dAVID BEDFORD) .... COLIN SCOT - ...AND FRIENDS This is basically a singer-songwriter lp. I don't have the lp anymore so I'm going by memory: Jon Anderson,Peter Hamill,Robert Fripp... |
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Posted By: xhouse
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 12:37
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Back when I was a very poor college freshman, I saw this Colin Scot import LP with all the guest stars and had to have it. What a huge waste of money. There was little to no evidence that any of the listed stars contributed. 45 years later, I'm still ticked off. ------------- Between Thought and Expression Lies True Perception |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 13:18
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39390" rel="nofollow - This album basically :P ------------- 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 13:20
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Hrychu wrote:Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 15:40
Never heard of this. Thanks ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 15:54
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Stomu Yamashta - Go (1976) Michael Shrieve Klaus Schulze Al Di Meola |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 18:21
| You guys are nuts. That's a great prog christmas album. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 01:25
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I actually suggested Colin Scot for "prog-related", but he isn't prog enough despite the huge number of famous guests ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 15:07
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MIKE BATT - TAROT SUITE (Mel Collins, Roger Chapman,Rory Gallagher,Chris Spedding,Tony McPhee) |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 01:17
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I don't listen to mediocre prog LPs, so I am unable to contribute anything! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 01:40
My thought, too.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:11
great effing album.  the live one is good, but the follow-up, nit so much ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:19
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I can't help feeling the subject heading describes the whole 'Ayreon' abomination to a tee... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:19
QFT
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 05:38
I said that a couple weeks ago on another topic (scary albums - so bad that it's scary)  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 05:39
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CENTIPEDE - SEPTOBER EERGY Ian Carr John Marshal Elton dEAN rOBERT FRIPP Ian MacDonald Roy Babbington Julie & Keith Tippett Mike Patto Robert Wyatt Karl Jenkins Brian Godding Nick Evans John Williams |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 06:02
| Keith Emerson plays on the first Rod Stewart album. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 08:02
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 08:46
You’re all very very bad people😳🤬🫵🏻🤯😑🤷♂️☺️ ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 09:10
------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/maxwells-submarine |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 23:14
| I never actually heard this album so I can't say for sure but I'm guessing this one: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20117" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20117 |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 07:04
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"prog stars"?  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 08:33
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 10:07
I also meant the original studio album, and I think it was Winwood best vocal recorded performance after Traffic until his 2003 solo album, About Time - which is by far his best solo album. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 10:16
| ^ Ok, we can't all enjoy the same:). I'm sure the vocal performance top notch, but I much prefer to hear him in Traffic (and Spencer Davis Group). |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 11:23
| Bill Bruford plays on the second Pavlov's Dog album, At The Sound of the Bell, which most don't seem to hold in nearly the same high regard as their first (I like it though). |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 16:35
the thing is that Winwood is hardly the only "star" in Go (great KB organ too), and they're all doing a fantastic job Di Meola, Shrieve, Schulze, Holland and Thrall are all well-known. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 17:12
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Maybe not exactly guesting, but "prog stars" have taken part of many mediocre and even worse "prog" albums in the post-1970s. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 01:52
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 02:35
Well I guess this album would fit the Albums-You'd-Want-To-Hear as "instrumental-only" thread. I'd give you half a point in that would-be thread  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 10:34
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I'm not that fond of Yamashta's Go myself, but the live version is significantly or much higher rated on both RYM and PA, and I'd say that Stomu Yamash'ta has been a great musician. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: May 25 2025 at 15:05
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A bit more detail on those on the Colin Scot - same 1971 lp: Colin Scot - Guitar, Vocals David Jackson - Saxophone Brinsley Schwarz - Guitar Robert Fripp - Guitar Davey Johnstone - Guitar Rick Wakeman - Keyboards Nic Potter - Bass Guy Evans - Drums Peter Hammill - Vocals Peter Gabriel - Vocals Phil Collins - Vocals Jane Relf - Vocals Jon Anderson - Vocals Linda Hoyle - Vocals Alan Hull – Vocals Amazing! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 00:06
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Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 01:13
-and yep. I would have preferred an instrumental version for sure. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 01:27
The vocal ensembles alone would be enough to turn me off. But for me it's like every aspect I've never actually enjoyed about Prog rolled into one project. Quite en achievement, really. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 05:18
I like Tom Baker of Doctor Who so I checked out Ayreon's Transitus and it did seem very cheesy to me. Mind you, one might call a significant amount of Doctor Who cheesy too. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 05:57
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Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman both played on Lou Reed's debut solo album, which was a bit of a mismatch to say the least. Most of the songs were leftovers from The Velvet Underground, and one of the two new songs was subsequently reworked for Berlin, but somehow the producer made the resulting album truly mediocre. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 14:20
I'm honestly not sure where to start.. I guess you've got to be 13-15 years old to enjoy it? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 04 2025 at 14:24
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 05 2025 at 08:11
I was over 40 when I first heard Ayreon (The Human Equation). The feeling I got on first listen possibly made me FEEL like I was a teenager again, ie. discovering amazing new music!🥰 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 05 2025 at 08:13
Transitus is not an Ayreon highlight…..🤓 ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 06 2025 at 09:54
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Hi, I don't want to say a whole lot about any musician out there doing something or other with other folks. In many cases, Europe specially, many of the folks were in school together and knew a bit about each other, and I don't think that any of those folks worried about their friends being different. You're there to help as they want/need and that's that. The one thing that bothers me, is when another "superbsgroup gets started and the idea is that they can't miss putting something together, and almost every time it is terribly over rated and a bit on the ... publicity side, if not a chance for those folks to pick up some quick cash. It makes it all like we can not appreciate someone taking the trash out in the morning, or taking the child to school, or going to check the mail box ... the kind of mundane things day in and out ... and that's the real life ... the rest is just a bit of fun ... though I rarely buy any of that stuff. I did not like the GO thing, both albums. It was a really poor mix of musicians, and their compatibility was not helpful to the concept of the whole thing, in my estimation. I got the first one via the station, and heard it a couple of times, but ... but ... but ... that was it. Nothing special in it at all. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: June 12 2025 at 09:29
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Projects like Explorer's Club or more recently Legacy Pilots come to mind. These are not necessarily bad (EC's second album is horrible), but generally containing mediocre to substandard songwriting. Even greatest guests cannot elevate that. I occasionally come across [very likely] wealthy guys from different parts of the world who apparently want their dreams come true and invite Steve Hackett and similar prog stars to play a tiny, insignificant solo just to create a hype about their mediocre-to-lackluster attempts to create music, while featuring this and that legend. [Un]fortunately I cannot remember their names.. Ayreon is a good exception from this. His albums do live up the hype. At least the classic ones before/including 2008, especially Into Electric Castle and The Universal Migrator. Then Lucassen IMO went downhill with the ability to write melodic hooks and memorable musical compositions. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow">  <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |