The beauty of Can explained
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Topic: The beauty of Can explained
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Subject: The beauty of Can explained
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 12:58
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...in the words of Ali Shaheed Muhammad from the great A Tribe Called Quest (+ Jazz is Dead and more...), while guesting one of my favorite shows: Amoeba Records' "What's In My Bag". From ca. 5:50 in and it goes on for a couple of minutes. It's just so wonderfully articulated. He continues talking about Weather Report, followed by Eddie Henderson mm..., so you might as well continue watching (he is pleasant, gifted and good at telling stories etc, so the whole video in very nice: -share other, similar interwievs or whatever, if you like. I love listening to artists talking about other artists they love - why, how, when they first heard their music and stuff like that... |
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 15:04
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I appreciated his Can analogy. I find Can organic. To appreciate it, I needed to feel it. The grooves can really resonate, the repetition... It's a trip, and, from my perspective, you kind of have to let yourself go with it, or just let yourself go period. And that seed can grow in you if you don't smother it. One way I find music can be smothered is by overthinking it rather than letting it move through you, absorbing it through feeling it and osmosis. It's like water, you can move through it, it can pass through you, and sometimes you can feel like you're drowning in it. Different modes can take time to appreciate. I watched a reaction video by a composer some time back on Swans' "Helpless Child" and I felt like his more formal music theory critique didn't get the point, at least not from my perspective. He was over-intellectualising it, thinking in conventions, rather than experiencing it; feeling it. It can take a while to get and feel, or maybe you never do. I think some people are too quick to judge based on the conventions they expect, but sometimes that seed needs to grow into you to appreciate how that music blossoms. It can take time, can require patience, or the right mood, the right attitude helps. Sometimes you just have to let yourself go and put aside the bigotry of your own expectations. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 16:50
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CAN phooking rulez, all others druul. -------------   
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 17:15
| Very nice,thanks for sharing. Despite having no time I couldn't stop listening to him on Weather Report, too... haven't listened to them for a long time and should, definitely! Yeah, "What's in my bag?" is great. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 19 2025 at 18:52
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Hi, This was nice, and very much appreciated. And notice that, in general, he was looking for different things, and not necessarily well known stuff, which is one of the secrets towards finding new music and talent. It ends up being a search for "expression", and eventually, it hits home, but we have to stop listening to what everyone tells us is best and number 1. You have to discover the whole thing by yourself. Nice comments on CAN, and that album, and the video bit with Chain Reaction that has one of the greatest drumming lessons that all drummers will ignore ... the end of "Chain Reaction" and eventually connecting to the next piece (broken up in the CD btw, but non-stop in the LP!!!!!! AGAIN!!!), is amazing, and Jaki's touch is really beautiful and you knew that he thought drumming was not needed here ... just a few touches here and there, and that transition to the next piece is magic ... so CAN ... however, the sad thing is that it really was the end of CAN, as the next album (LANDED) was very different and though it had some far out stuff in it, it was totally off key for many of us, and not exactly a trippy album, but a far out exploration of the "song" thing, and how they could make it different from the rest. " ... hunters and collectors, all come out at night ... " and find music in places like Amoeba ... ohhh how I miss Rasputin, The old Tower before it turned into the top ten commercial thing that killed it, and Moby Disk ... they were the places that gave you heaven in Southern California (Rasputin is/eas Berkeley) ... and fed Space Pirate Radio so much ... so very much ... Wonderful days and music ... it lives and breathes through me still, though that's not saying that there is no wonderful new music ... there will always be new music, if you open your ears, and stop worrying if it is this or that! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |