Our 1980 top 10s in & out of PA (share & comment)
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Topic: Our 1980 top 10s in & out of PA (share & comment)
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Our 1980 top 10s in & out of PA (share & comment)
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 11:06
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The idea behind these topics is not just to list our own choices but to compare each other's lists to some extent and comment to some extent on that which we appreciate or are interested in from each other's choices (a positive exercise) if applicable. Our choices can be Prog and non-Prog, in PA and not in PA. I hope this can bring fairly diverse-in-tastes people together, and through the years we not only can find common interests but comment on those. For instance, I'm not much of one for AOR, Neo-Prog, modern Symphonic Prog, bootywave, hair metal and Prog Metal (lots of kinds of metal I do like), and others are not big on Post-Rock, Indie, RIO, Zeuhl, Acid Folk, or Krautrock, but I'm sure through the years unless one's tastes are really narrow and one is not into many years, we would be able to find common ground, common interests. I commonly prefer to try to focus on and find the common ground and the similarities than the differences. Quite commonly I'd rather try to express my appreciation than dissatisfaction (that does depend on what the issue is). I decided to start with 2010 partially because it is not a year that gets a huge amount of attention (I wanted to avoid some of the biggest years in Prog to start), and then decided to stick with the years that end with zeros much like John's (Mellotron Storm) excellent poll series. I then did 1970 and 2000, and now I will do 1980. 1990, by the way, is one of the weaker years in my lists from the "sixties-until-now" at Awedsome Prog (love the mid to late 90s), but I expect to see more I like get listed by others that I forgot. Please try to limit you initial list to just ten or so albums (rather than listing all you like). You can also separate them and mention others you like, but I want to keep the focus narrowed to that which you still really care about if possible. And feel free to mention less than ten, even if it's just one you like. Actually, I really would like to list more than 20 this time, a great year for my tastes. Here are my top 15 releases as it not stands at Awesome Prog (just shuffled the order a bit based on my current whims -- the order matters little). https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-1980/users/Logan" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-1980/users/Logan Art Zoyd - Génération sans Futur (Avant-Prog, Chamber Music, Modern Classical, RIO) Joy Division - Closer (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock, Coldwave) Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising (Psychedelic Rock, Film Score) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock) Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement (Jazz-Rock, Zeuhl, Canterbury Scene) Eskaton - Ardeur (Zeuhl, Space Rock, Jazz-Rock) Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1 EP (Totalism, Post-Punk, Post-Rock, Noise Rock) Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi (Progressive Rock, Canterbury Scene, Avant-Prog) Kate Bush - Never for Ever (Art Pop, Progressive Pop, Baroque Pop, Art Rock, Glam Rock) Gary Numan - Telekon (Synthpop, New Wave, Minimal Wave) Tuxedomoon - Half-Mute (Post-Punk, Experimental Rock, Minimal Wave) Terry Riley - Shri Camel (Minimalism, Electronic, Microtonal Classical) Present - Triskaidekaphobie (Avant-Prog, Chamber Music, RIO) Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (Family Cracks) (Avant-Prog, RIO) Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (Gothic Rock, Post-Punk, Noise Rock) I took the genre descriptions mostly from RYM including various secondary attributes. Some other faves include big names like Peter Gabriel's Melt, Tangerine Dream's Tangram and many more. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 11:11
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I made a 1980 albums poll a little while ago https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=125380&KW=1980" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=125380&KW=1980 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 11:31
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^ Yep, four years ago, thanks, and I responded to it. I voted for Melt. And I did this poll much more recently: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134594" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134594 I have done various ones for 1980 over the years. And many others have too done polls and lists for 1980. I was hoping this could be different approach. This is what I wrote in your topic (it didn't add to any conversation nor was worth commenting on or getting a "thanks", but... I'm not a good conversationalist):
Off course this is meant for both our Prog and non-Prog faves, which my poll covered. I have wanted to move away from polls . I wrote this for my opening post originally to kind of show where I am coming from but opted not to add it (bit redundant and emo perhaps). Although I have enjoyed the exercise of preparing polls and many of the responses, an issue I have had is that they hardly ever seem to appeal to enough people despite my approach, and thus people often express their dissatisfaction with the choices and others who I would have expected to like and comment on things don't post. I like topics that can reach out to the wider community often, and be welcoming to all (mostly) to comment and have discussions together. I have been dissatisfied with making polls often because while I do get wonderful comments, quite often people will express their displeasure in the choices (I commonly tend to like enthusiasm). And when I have tried to be more diverse, others who I would have expected to find things they appreciate to comment on, and whose topics I can usually find albums/acts/tracks to comment on, are often silent. I'm not a good people person, I prefer to limit the people I am personally around, and yet want to make connections with more, diverse people online. But I still tend to see more conversation and positive feedback in polls with lists than list topic of the top ten variety. With lists, just my preference, I would prefer topics where we look at each other's lists and try to find other people's mention to comment on rather than just making our own lists. I like thee more socially interactive topics. For this I wanted everyone's individual favourites both Prog and not (or one or the other) and for us to express out interest in each other's lists/ choices and discuss more rather than just listing our own. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 11:35
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I'll see what i can add to that poll list.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 20 2025 at 11:45
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Okay thanks. I wish more people would make lists at Awesome Prog, by the way, through the years. I want to try to figure out some way to make dynamic lists which encourage as much interaction between participants as possible... Here, by the way, is the top 10 for 1980 in PA's charts: 1. Rush - Permanent Waves (Heavy Prog) 2. Peter Gabriel 3 [Aka: Melt] (Crossover Prog) 3. Asia Minor - Between Flesh And Divine (Symphonic Prog) 4. Present - Triskaďdékaphobie (RIO/Avant-Prog) 5. Spinetta Jade - Alma De Diamante (Jazz Rock/Fusion) 6. Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (RIO/Avant-Prog) 7. Tangerine Dream - Tangram (Progressive Electronic) 8. Hawkwind - Levitation (Psychedelic/Space Rock) 9. Kate Bush - Never For Ever (Crossover Prog) 10. Itoiz - Ezekiel (Prog Folk) To reiterate, this is not meant to just be about individuals coming together to each list ten or so of their favourite albums, it's supposed to be interactive where we also compare our lists and comment on other's choices. And I would hope for it to be more conversational than most list-type topics. And just because I want to and there's no momentum, here is my top 30: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4704#tag=%20%7bap:21307%7d" rel="nofollow - Art Zoyd - Génération sans Futur (listened extensively) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/64716#tag=%20%7bap:64716%7d" rel="nofollow - Joy Division - Closer [AP Non-Prog] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15435#tag=%20%7bap:56279%7d" rel="nofollow - Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising (ost) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77833#tag=%20%7bap:77833%7d" rel="nofollow - Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope [AP Non-Prog] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14041#tag=%20%7bap:13551%7d" rel="nofollow - Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5648#tag=%20%7bap:17036%7d" rel="nofollow - Eskaton - Ardeur https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77934#tag=%20%7bap:77934%7d" rel="nofollow - Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1 (EP) [AP Prog] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2565#tag=%20%7bap:17990%7d" rel="nofollow - Picchio Dal Pozzo - Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9802#tag=%20%7bap:4993%7d" rel="nofollow - Kate Bush - Never For Ever https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77948#tag=%20%7bap:77948%7d" rel="nofollow - Gary Numan - Telekon [AP] https://awesomeprog.com/releases/13127#tag=%20%7bap:13127%7d" rel="nofollow - Tuxedomoon - Half-Mute [AP] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=30765#tag=%20%7bap:36279%7d" rel="nofollow - Terry Riley - Shri Camel https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4658#tag=%20%7bap:10345%7d" rel="nofollow - Present - Triskaidekaphobie https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3176#tag=%20%7bap:4942%7d" rel="nofollow - Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor (Family Cracks) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/70810#tag=%20%7bap:70810%7d" rel="nofollow - Bauhaus - In the Flat Field (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77957#tag=%20%7bap:77957%7d" rel="nofollow - 森田童子 - ラスト・ワルツ Un, deux, trois (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8425#tag=%20%7bap:16008%7d" rel="nofollow - Snakefinger - Greener Postures https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3636#tag=%20%7bap:7675%7d" rel="nofollow - Peter Gabriel - Melt (listened often) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6351#tag=%20%7bap:7022%7d" rel="nofollow - Tangerine Dream - Tangram https://awesomeprog.com/releases/11114#tag=%20%7bap:11114%7d" rel="nofollow - Kitaro - Silk Road Volume 2 [AP] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2373#tag=%20%7bap:18978%7d" rel="nofollow - Peter Hammill - A Black Box https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6430#tag=%20%7bap:7912%7d" rel="nofollow - Aksak Maboul - Un Peu De L'Âme Des Bandits https://awesomeprog.com/releases/11113#tag=%20%7bap:11113%7d" rel="nofollow - Kitaro - Silk Road Volume 1 [AP] https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3292#tag=%20%7bap:5052%7d" rel="nofollow - Itoiz - Ezekiel https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=30318#tag=%20%7bap:22498%7d" rel="nofollow - Talking Heads - Remain in Light https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13588#tag=%20%7bap:5045%7d" rel="nofollow - Slapp Happy - Acnalbasac Noom https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6953#tag=%20%7bap:5019%7d" rel="nofollow - Captain Beefheart - Doc At The Radar Station https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18773#tag=%20%7bap:12811%7d" rel="nofollow - David Bowie - Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/7007#tag=%20%7bap:7007%7d" rel="nofollow - Tangerine Dream - Quichotte (Live) [AP Prog-Adj] https://awesomeprog.com/releases/70821#tag=%20%7bap:70821%7d" rel="nofollow - The Sound - Jeopardy [AP Non-Prog] https://awesomeprog.com/releases/70828#tag=%20%7bap:70828%7d" rel="nofollow - Wipers - Is This Real? [AP Non-Prog] ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 02:26
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My top twenty. I do at least venture a little bit oustide of prog here and there (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3075#tag=%20%7bap:21199%7d" rel="nofollow - Rush - Permanent Waves (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/06hsxtm7Y1gDM5sNliCD5d" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=514#tag=%20%7bap:13285%7d" rel="nofollow - Eloy - Colours (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1FRtapqrw3hq6RogyffxSN" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5854#tag=%20%7bap:12895%7d" rel="nofollow - Sky - Sky 2 (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6a6iMs79JKvjU7twaK9n2a" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6351#tag=%20%7bap:7022%7d" rel="nofollow - Tangerine Dream - Tangram (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6aHeeKVHp0mIPrhKPAbnyf" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog-Adj Electronic (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/7007#tag=%20%7bap:7007%7d" rel="nofollow - Tangerine Dream - Quichotte (Live, listened extensively) [AP Prog-Adj] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2cjPOWEFLRjit6rTvDGCg9" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog-Adj Electronic (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9802#tag=%20%7bap:4993%7d" rel="nofollow - Kate Bush - Never For Ever (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0KBFDO8qcY0zhybIESEQUt" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog-Adj Pop (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4081#tag=%20%7bap:10575%7d" rel="nofollow - The Enid - Six Pieces (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0ZQp3RMqEHwh7Vc8vKhBt6" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1516#tag=%20%7bap:17942%7d" rel="nofollow - Genesis - Duke (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1FFpEn1rjlucjU5L5JXggy" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1833#tag=%20%7bap:7508%7d" rel="nofollow - Yes - Drama (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0HoF3Ir1IYbIkvrxXrLGOB" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4163#tag=%20%7bap:4620%7d" rel="nofollow - Steve Hackett - Defector (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0nECUKmdMX4suPNyJ1oLWo" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3636#tag=%20%7bap:7675%7d" rel="nofollow - Peter Gabriel - Melt (listened extensively) [ https://petergabriel.bandcamp.com/album/peter-gabriel-3-melt" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/0LF0vWmmKRVPXoikpNkO5W" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog-Adj Pop (A) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/15366#tag=%20%7bap:15366%7d" rel="nofollow - The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/581smfX6qbTBaU48Td6rVv" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Non-Prog Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4898#tag=%20%7bap:7194%7d" rel="nofollow - Mike Oldfield - QE2 (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/29mnCT1UKm7DduLNWdi842" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog-Adj Rock (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16471#tag=%20%7bap:76876%7d" rel="nofollow - Keith Emerson - Inferno (Soundtrack, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2XDq4JffpRU1A3hPFJot2l" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Crossover Prog (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12923#tag=%20%7bap:2736%7d" rel="nofollow - Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (listened often) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3DNeMApEMCo4IDXNMYnlFi" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Related (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8218#tag=%20%7bap:8292%7d" rel="nofollow - Queen - Flash Gordon (Soundtrack, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2SS9qutxzz0XZf4zmoQVdx" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Related (A) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77833#tag=%20%7bap:77833%7d" rel="nofollow - Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope (listened often) [AP Non-Prog] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5qwqMAvWEPdUkprxmfceir" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Non-Prog Rock (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=711#tag=%20%7bap:11971%7d" rel="nofollow - Kayak - Periscope Life (listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4Eq6lC8CyqebXUWI5CmmxC" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Crossover Prog (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8937#tag=%20%7bap:11359%7d" rel="nofollow - Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories (listened often) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6Lz4WKNO0i8ze1PCLmhqiB" rel="nofollow - SPO ] Prog Related (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7548#tag=%20%7bap:16082%7d" rel="nofollow - Vangelis - See You Later (listened extensively) Prog-Adj Pop |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 03:04
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Rousseau - Flower in Asphalt Vent D'Est – s/t (obscure French prog, quite good) ARC - Maquette (another solid French prog obscurity) Kenso - s/t CHOICE - Just a Dream (German prog band) Kerry Livgren - Seeds Of Change Steve Walsh - Schemer Dreamer Angel Witch - s/t The Michael Schenker Group - s/t Icehouse - Flowers Ultravox - Vienna WhieSnake - Ready An' Willing |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 03:59
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1) Rush: Permanent Waves 2) Eloy: Colours 3) Sky: Sky 2 4) TD: Pergamon/ Quichotte 5) Oldfield: QE2 6) Hawkwind: Levitation 7) Hackett: Defector 8) Anyone's Daughter: s/t 9) TD: Tangram 10) Yes: Drama -------- 11) Tull: A 12) Genesis: Duke 13) Vangelis: See You Later 14) GG: Civilian 15) Nektar: Man In The Moon ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:03
I'm pleased our Top 3 are identical, and I didn't see yours before posting. Isn't Short Stories 1979?? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:08
These two are not bad at all.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:14
no, they are both quite listenable but they are the symptom of the age, like MMEB's Chance, which I could have also included. They just aren't prog, or a patch on what either band had produced during the '70's.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:19
I've always enjoyed MMEB's Chance
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:20
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^^ that's fine... I've nothing particularly against any of them, except I would describe them as 'safe'. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 04:23
Kinda safe. All three of them tried something new, but in a more accessible way. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 06:01
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Agnus (ARG) Pinturas Y Expresiones (1980, Progressive Rock) Asia Minor (F) Between Flash And Divine (1980, Progressive Rock) Bauhaus (UK) In The Flat Field (1980, Gothic Rock, Post-Punk) Diamond Head (UK) Lightning to the Nations (1980, NWOBHM) Ian Dury & The Blockheads (UK) Laughter (1980, New Wave, Pub Rock) The “Gunesh” Ensemble (USSR) Gunesh (1980, Jazz Fusion, Jazz-Rock) Joy Division (UK) Closer (1980, Post-Punk, Gothic Rock) Krćn Bysted (DK) Stavnsbundet (1980, Folk-Rock) Hazel O’Connor (UK) Breaking Glass (1980, New Wave, Film Soundtrack) Yello (CH) Solid Pleasure (1980, Synthpop, Electronic) only a couple of Prog and quite a lot of different genres ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 06:45
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Thanks for the lists. Richard has a number I like very much like Siouxsie and The Banshees' Kaleidoscope, Kate Bush's Never for Ever, and Peter Gabriel's Melt especially, and I like the Tangerine Dreams (those need more spin-time with me). I used to really like that Police album (it's on my longer list), but I just have not listened to it in quite a number of years. I have enjoyed the Rush (also on my longer list). As I had mentioned in the Cristi topic that Cristi linked to, I had a major Rushhead housemate. That Rushhead did end up giving me something of a Rush headache (not my favourite headache to have, to reference something Geddy Lee). And that's the person who introduced me to Yes in the 80s. I have not listened to Permanent Waves for many years in full. And I have liked that The Enid album, by not heard in about 20 years. While the album never really connected with me on the whole, Duke has some music I really like. As for Cristi's list, oh I used to love Icehouse's Flowers, I need to listen again and Ultravox's Vienna is a stone cold classic. I need to listen to that again too. In high school I was quite into WhiteSnake, I had heard the Vent D'Est album before, listening now, yep, nice album. As for Jared's, I like the Tangerine Dream's and have liked the Eloy's, and should check out the Sky again. As for Civilian, I might quote Douglas Adams and call it mostly harmless if one is into rather uninspired and AORish pop rock. While I wanted to be positive, and I am not bashing it, twenty years ago especially I was huge on Gentle Giant and I bought all of the studio albums. I really liked the first eight. The other three, not, so not so safe for me. It was my least appreciated, even below Giant for a Day, on which I did quite like Spooky Boogie. And from David's list, Joy Division's Closer is a particular favourite album of mine, and I like the Bauhaus very much. That same friend who I mentioned being a major Rushhead who I shared a townhouse with (at a ski resort called Whistler) offered me good money to destroy my Bauhaus CD (it was the compilation album Volume One 1979-1983). I refused, and was tempted to throw him a yin and yang lumber punch (go taste a tart, then eat my lunch). I put on the Gunesh Ensemble (youtube streaming), enjoying it now. :) ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 08:06
tbh, my problem is that I like to take part in your threads, because you help keep the forum alive with all the hard work you put in to it... yet, you almost know what it is that I'm going to post, before I get around to it... very predictable with few surprises. I like what I like... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 09:45
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Having better time now, I've added genres on my list.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 10:25
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1980 in PA: 1. Mike Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day 2. Yes - Drama 3. Genesis - Duke 4. Steve Hackett - Defector 5. Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Chance 1980 Not in PA: 1. U2 - Boy 2. Steve Winwood - Arc of a Diver 3. Haden/Garbarek/Gismonti - Magico 4. Wayne Shorter - Et Cetera 5. Keith Jarrett - The Celestial Hawk |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 11:36
^ Thanks, I should give U2's Bot another spin at some time. I've seen it getting positive comments in PA from a few people over the past few years (like in a topic by Paul). The only U2 album I have heard in full more than couple of times that I can recall is The Joshua Tree
No worries, I think that most forum regulars who have been around for quite a while would be quite predictable to those who pay attention, and not just when it comes to music tastes. Many of us repeat the same names, the same style, attitudes, and the same kinds of points again and again. I like a sense of predictability, would make trading stocks and much in life easier. Life has more than enough uncertainty. :) I think the most value I add to this forum is minusing things, like spam, which I do daily, by the way. I've been told that my choices have got too same-y and tend to just appeal to the same select group of people again and again. And some have expressed dissatisfaction in my not adding more, to them, obvious or mainstream prog choices throughout my years here. I like to see diversity from the community, and my tastes have often been more on the fringes of Prog (progressive but not so Prog genre as some, and not as much of a rocker as many). That said, my primary interests (both acts and genres) are more mutable as I get into different things which ignite new passions. But I have not seen what I might think of as particularly significant changes in my interests for a few years. And I anyway, I always commonly favoured atmospheric types of music, just got into some other atmospheric and cinematic music. I think Jerry Goldsmith and John Barry set the tone to quite an extent when I was a child for my future interests. Commonly people get more conservative and status quo, same-old, same-old, as they get older. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 11:51
I think I'm in this category.... I seem to have receded into a Mike Oldfield / TD / Froese / Vangelis vortex of late, re-appearing for occasional doses of Camel or Floyd. I'm getting quite concerned as I've been stuck here for a little while now. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 21 2025 at 12:08
That's a vortex I'd happily be in. I so want to make a Zardoz reference... I'm at the nostalgia point of reliving childhood memories by turning on my streaming services and just wanting to watch TV shows or movies that I enjoyed as a child commonly (sci-fi stuff). I have to force myself out of it. At sometimes my poor brain has difficulty with new-to-me things, be it music, TV shows, films or concepts. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 00:44
I Hear You Now was released as a single in December 1979 and the album came out in January 1980. I think its an okay album (hence the B tier rating), they virtually chucked it out there with very little recording time and it shows. Their next album The Friends Of Mr Cairo was much better and I have argued that the track Horizon from their third album Private Collection is very akin to a post rock style that evolved much later in the decade. Its a pity that they stopped until later putting out that not very good 90's album which rounded off everything. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 02:22
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1980-1981 are just so unique imo. Everything was changing while the progressive and experimental approach of the 1970's sort of made a comeback. I could easily have listed 30 more favorites: Art Zoyd - Génération Sans Futur (Avant-Prog, Chamber Music, Modern Classical, RIO) The Residents - Commercial Album (Art Pop, Avant Prog) The John Renbourn Group - The Enchanted Garden (British Folk, Early Music) Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement (Jazz-Rock, Zeuhl, Canterbury Scene) Barre Phillips - Journal Violone II (ECM Style Jazz, Vocal Jazz, Free Jazz) Kartik Trivedi - Basanti: Indian Raga Music on Piano (Hindustani Classical Music) Rahmann - Rahmann (Oriental Jazz, Zeuhl, Jazz Rock-Fusion) New Life Trio - Visions of the Third Eye (Free Jazz, Spiritual Jazz, Jazz Fusion) Yello - Solid Pleasure (Synth Pop, Experimental) McCoy Tyner - Horizon (Spiritual Jazz, Modal Jazz, Jazz Fusion) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bobb Trimble - Iron Curtain Innocence (Psychedelic Folk) Roxy Music - Flesh + Blood (Art Rock, New Wave) Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising (Psychedelic Rock, Film Score) Klaus Schulze - Dig It (Progressive Electronic) Kate Bush - Never for Ever (Art Pop) Joy Division - Closer (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock, Coldwave) Noa - Noa (Avant Prog, Zeuhl) Blue Öyster Cult - Cultösaurus Erectus (Hard Rock, Heavy Prog) Siouxsie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope (Post-Punk, Gothic Rock) Between - Stille über der Zeit: Silence Beyond Time (Oriental Jazz, Progressive Folk, New Age) |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 03:36
Agreed. Cairo and Collection are certainly a step up from the other two; these are the pair I presently own.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 08:46
So much I love there and various ones that I don't know. I'm going to colour code your posts with green fro ones I know and really like, orange for one I just don't know well but love the artist, if you can dig it? And the other releases I am seriously, majorly lacking in familiarity with that I recall (my memory is fallible, like I I might have heard that Between many years ago. I will check it out again). Rahmann would be on my list, used to be, but I have it listed for 1979. And Noa should have been on my list, added to it. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 09:01
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Alas, there are few recordings from 1980 that I like; here is a list of many not mentioned yet, and it includes only 7 entries, including some non prog in the bunch Passport-Oceanliner Budgie-Power Supply Gentle Giant-Civilian Atomic Rooster-Atomic Rooster 80 Eddy Marron-Por Marco Spyro Gyra-Catching The Sun Wishbone Ash-Just Testing |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 09:26
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^ The only one of those I have heard in full is Civilian, not a fan TBH, but I have listened to music from that Eddy Marron before because of you as I recall, and liked it. Checking it out now, and enjoying what I am hearing. Thanks, Doug. Incidentally... I know that Pedro seems against such things, and I don't want a lecture on that here (no one approach need fit everyone, and I appreciate a diversity of thinking and approaches commonly), but there should be various ways to make and get good recommendations (that would work for many) based on an individuals' interests (those stepping stone releases can be especially valuable in opening up new vistas). Of course there are many algorithms for such things, and those can work well, but I like the personal touch. I expect there would be many 1980 albums you would like if you got to know them. What often helps is finding those people who share many of the most interests with you, of course. Like for me with Saperlipopette! whom I last responded to, I know he could suggest lots of releases from any year that I would like. Just a thought that likely won't lead to me having any new practical and implementable (or to be implemented) ideas. It's something I've always been interested in and wanted to work towards. These interactive lists where we share our own and discuss others choices hopefully can help somewhat in that regard. I know they do for me, at least as I see lots of touchstones (confluences of interests with contributors). I have been quite passionate when it comes to defending the 80s against claims of poor quality, by the way. Often it just depends on how widely and deeply you cast your net and how diverse ones tastes can be. But I digress. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 01:14
^ I am often very negative about the 80's for mostly the obvious reasons that it was a time that rock music threw away the gains of the late sixties and the seventies and decided that U2 were a band that was worth taking seriously. It did however force me to listen to listen to artists (like Kate Bush and Suzanne Vega) that I would not have bothered with otherwise and also I discovered Vangelis and Tangerine Dream in that decade and I'm thankful for that but ultimately the terrible production aesthetic of so many albums as we get further into the decade just hurts my ears and goes against any innovation that might be happening. It's a personal thing of course, i get that, but I was glad of the return of 'real' rock music into the 90's with the likes of Nirvana, Red Hot Chillie Peppers, Oasis etc and also the very wonderful Radiohead who showed a true progressive attitude. So very much my own opinion of course 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 01:54
I could have written those sentiments myself, but I rather clung to Marillion and early 80's Rush, Yes & Genesis like a limpet as well as Queensryche, Maiden and heavier stuff... didn't discover proper Floyd and TD until 6th form.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 11:19
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Partially because I am not as invested in just rock as many people, nor do I or have I payed as much attention to kinds of mainstream music often, I can find so much I like without thinking much about all that I don't. As a youth in the 80s I was enjoying music like Kate Bush, Laurie Anderson, Midnight Oil, Gary Numan, Kraftwerk, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure. Soundtrack artists like Doldinger and Moroder etc. and I was hearing post-punk and experimental music (including music we would call avant prog here) that I appreciated especially on university radio. That said, the vast majority of music that I am into now I discovered in the internet age, mostly from 2003 until now. Much of what I most like from the 80s now, like Siouxsie and The Banshees, Glenn Branca, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, Swans' Children of God, Talk Talk, Joy Division, and a huge many others, I have not been very into for many years. I was at a party a decade ago and the conversation went to Joy Division and I had nothing to say. Same thing has happened to me with Twin Peaks (that I now love) and Game of Thrones (that I got into later). At least I got there eventually... In about 2005, I really got into the RIO side of things, with Art Zoyd being a particular favourite of mine, and as a RIO/Avant Prog/Zeuhl lover, I find the 80s very strong for that. There's lots of electronic music I like from then, various Krautrock types, and psych music. Experimentation was not absent in the 80s, but I would not look to things like Yes or Asia for that, nor neo-prog or arena rock/ AOR bands for that matter. I did like Rush in the 80s, by the way, much more than I now do. I guess an issue I have is that a lot of people who dismiss the 80s as bad (be fine to me if people explicitly say that they find it poor based on what they know) are either seeing it through the lens of what they knew back in the 80s, or what was popular in the 80s. and have not explored a lot of 80s music since, don't have broad tastes, and have not delved deeply into a wide diversity of styles. It can depend on how widely and deeply you have cast the net and how much you have researched. The internet made discovering more obscure music easy, especially if you are not reliant on listening to physical product. I find streaming wonderful although I still like having and playing physical product. Thanks to a kind gift of many CDs by a PA member not long ago, I got my stereo system out of storage and I am enjoying physical product again. There was a terrible to my ears production aesthetic to much music I heard in the 80s, but I could list hundreds of albums I love from the 80s. I could not have in the 80s but I discover more each year especially from every 60s and up decade. My lists at Awesome Prog for each year can keep growing if I keep listing... In the 90s I certainly did find it to be a breath of fresh air for rock (who knew grunge could smell that fresh?), and the 90s is now one of my favourite decades (especially for the second half). I love Radiohead now. But again, most of I know like was not what I was into in the 90s. Those are more recent discoveries. I'm happy for people to like what they like commonly (with many exceptions as many things that people like can be harmful) but I wish less people would casually dismiss many things as bad just because they are not to their tastes and often out of ignorance. Many people making sweeping generalisations. Some people throw around terms like bad, good, best worst much more freely than I would like, including publications. It's hard enough often to judge that which one is familiar with, let alone judging that for which one lacks familiarity. And often the people who throw around such terms the most casually, and making sweeping generalizations are the hardest to get into details with via discussion to try to better understand where they are coming from. I like specifics commonly. If one make claims, examples can help, and recongise the limits of one's claim, argument and belief. My philosophy is to not to dismiss things lightly, to recognise one's own biases, limitations and ignorance. The first step on the road of wisdom is to recognise one's own ignorance, to paraphrase Plato's Republic. And sometimes I would get people saying that the only good thing in my one of my list was one album, and then they barely know any of the other material. It's that kind of attitude that is very different to my way of thinking and expression (most days anyway, sometimes I can be like that when short on time and attention). Doesn't matter to me much as long as we can understand where each other are coming from, the context is clear, it does not impede communication and ultimately exploration, even if the exploration is just on the civil and thoughtful conversational level. I wish I were better at writing more economically. That can help conversation. The more I write the more I might confuse not only others, but myself. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 12:54
To me, 1980 is still (the tail end of) the 1970s, and remains an utterly fantastic year for music. I'll have to post my list later, after work. Do you really like the RHCP, Richard? My fam loves them. I think they're majorly overrated. Also, to me they're an '80s band. I actually caught one of their early appearances on late-night TV, performing "Fight Like a Brave" from their third album, The Uplift Mofo Party Plan. The subsequent success they achieved boggles! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 23 2025 at 15:14
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 24 2025 at 02:43
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Not the most interesting year for prog. More decent than outstanding albums. Outside the prog niche there were some great releases. Andy Irvine - Rainy Sundays ... Windy Dreams Joy Division - Closer Rush - Permanent Waves Peter Gabriel - 3 aka Melt U2 - Boy ------------- 
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 24 2025 at 18:00
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I list 18 of them, and although I set the first 10 apart, these are very hard to rank and there isn't really that much between the first and the last. 18 great albums even though none of them is among my absolute favourites (in our "rank your hundreds of favourite albums" exercise many years ago I had the Comsat Angels album at around rank 50, which still feels about right - it certainly hasn't lost any of its attraction). The Comsat Angels - Waiting for a Miracle Tangerine Dream - Tangram Kate Bush - Never For Ever Fehlfarben - Monarchie und Alltag The Cure - Seventeen Seconds Sky - Sky 2 Art Zoyd - Generation sans Futur Eloy - Colours Kraan - Tournee (the live albums are the essential Kraan) Tuxedomoon - Half Mute Japan - Gentlemen Take Polaroids Steve Hackett - Defector Fred Frith - Gravity Talking Heads - Remain in Light Zamla Mammas Manna - Familjesprickor Joy Division - Closer Anyone's Daughter - s/t Saga - Silent Knight |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 24 2025 at 19:31
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1980! PROG/FUSION/ELECTRONIC (all in PA) Art Zoyd – Génération sans Futur Ashra – Belle Alliance Jeff Beck – There and Back Black Sabbath – Heaven and Hell Blue Öyster Cult – Cultösaurus Erectus Brand X – Do They Hurt? Bruford – Gradually Going Tornado Kate Bush – Never for Ever Al Di Meola – Splendido Hotel Dixie Dregs – Dregs of the Earth Eloy – Colours Gandalf – Journey to an Imaginary Land Genesis – Duke Group 87 – Group 87 Steve Hackett – Defector Herbie Hancock – Mr. Hands Hawkwind – Levitation Jethro Tull – A David Earle Johnson & Jan Hammer – Hip Address Kansas – Audio-Visions Keith Emerson – Inferno Kitaro – Silk Road Kitaro – Silk Road II Kitaro – In Person FM – Cty of Fear Goblin – Contamination Kerry Livgren – Seeds of Change Mike Oldield – QE2 Richard Pinhas – Iceland Richard Pinhas – East West Rush – Permanent Waves Saga – Silent Knight Carlos Santana – The Swing of Delight Robert Schroeder – Floating Music Józef Skrzek – Ojciec Chrzestny Domnika Sky – Sky 2 Michael Stearns – Morning Jewel (missing from the PA discography) Tangerine Dream – Tangram Twelfth Night – Twelfth Night Weather Report – Night Passage Yes – Drama OTHER (i.e. not in PA) Barnabas – Hear the Light Glenn Branca – Lesson No. 1 Cheap Trick – All Shook Up Gamma – Gamma 2 Heart – Bebe Le Strange Phil Lynott – Solo in Soho Mama's Boys – Official Bootleg Album Missing Persons – The Missing Persons EP Gary Numan – Telekon Thin Lizzy – Chinatown Triumph – Progressions of Power Ultravox – Vienna Van Halen – Women and Children First Wild Horses – The First Album ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 24 2025 at 23:35
Yeah I like them. They can play. I don't have to love them completely and actually I don't own any albums by them or Nirvana or Oasis. They are kind of a party band and not a serious album band but that's okay. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2025 at 06:51
Kate Bush is on PA (in the unlikely case you didn't know). Always like your contributions. It seems half of our tastes very nicely overlaps (OK, rounded up a bit  ) and the other half is totally different. Still if you mention a group I've never heard of like Group 87, it's a reason to check them out.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 25 2025 at 12:21
A cut-and-paste goof. Time to edit. 
I think you'd like them a lot. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2025 at 15:34
First impression: Very nice indeed!
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